Effects...just "icing" on the cake? (or) not comparable to playing Bach?

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Bardock42 Junior Member
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Exactly...and if you mess around with certain effects enough...that C can turn into a D...which can turn into an arpegio..which can be given a particular rythm, and so forth.

Yeah, but it is just a (additional) part of playing a guitar, isn't it?

Alpha Centauri Restricted
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
and if you mess around with certain effects enough...that C can turn into a D...which can turn into an arpegio..which can be given a particular rythm, and so forth.

YOU are the person telling ME I'm not musically inclined?

Do you have any idea how LITTLE sense that made?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, but it is just a (additional) part of playing a guitar, isn't it?

Yes, not making music, though.

-AC

EPIIIBITES Restricted

More proof...AC doesn't know anything about music making

Bardock42 Junior Member

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yes, not making music, though.

-AC

No, of course not. It's not an instrument. It's just a part of it. Like....lets say a ...string. (slightly flawed analogy since it is not a fundamental part)

EPIIIBITES Restricted

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
Marr implied that himself by using the word 'and' , meaning they were two separate things. And anybody who has played with a tremolo knows that it doesnt create the rythm, they player does. Just like the player has to decide when the right time to step on a WAH-wah pedal is.

It's not all that clear to be honest...BUT, as I said above...even if in this example it isn't the effect that produces the rhythm, it can be in many other examples. Expecially with a multi-delay pedal...which you could basically end-up making sound like a techno riff.

Alpha Centauri Restricted

Haha, "Expecially.".

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
More proof...AC doesn't know anything about music making

Where's your music, EP?

You keep saying all this, and none of us have heard anything from you.

Show us what you've got.

(Don't write music, do you?).

-AC

EPIIIBITES Restricted

Originally posted by Bardock42
No, of course not. It's not an instrument. It's just a part of it. Like....lets say a ...string. (slightly flawed analogy since it is not a fundamental part)

Yeah...and sometime syou can use certain strings more than others.

Bardock42 Junior Member
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Yeah...and sometime you can use some string more than others

Y-yes?

Alpha Centauri Restricted
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Yeah...and sometime you can use some string more than others

The string makes sound, the pedal doesn't.

Where's your music, EP? Are you going to show us some or not?

You should, considering you're acting like you know a lot and have claimed you can write.

-AC

EPIIIBITES Restricted

Originally posted by Bardock42
Y-yes?
Obviously the guitar is an instrument...but I'm also saying an effects pedal can be an instrument...because you create with it...you alter the sound with it. Change it's tone, speed, rythm...you know...write music with it. I'd even say it and the guitar are both instrument...but what the guitar might have done in some case (where can simply strum a chord) the effects can be used to do something far more creative and musical.

Alpha Centauri Restricted
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Obviously the guitar is an instrument...but I'm also saying an effects pedal can be an instrument...because you create with it...you alter the sound with it. Change it's tone, speed, rythm...you know...write music with it.

You do NOT create with it, you alter with it.

If I gave you a pedal, JUST a pedal, no guitar. Could you go and write a song on the pedal?

-AC

Bardock42 Junior Member

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Obviously the guitar is an instrument...but I'm also saying an effects pedal can be an instrument...because you create with it...you alter the sound with it. Change it's tone, speed, rythm...you know...write music with it.
But that's wrong. The pedal is not an instrument.

EPIIIBITES Restricted

I said...

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
I'd even say it and the guitar are both the instrument...but what the guitar might have done in some case (where can simply strum a chord) the effects can be used to do something far more creative and musical.
IF it's used creatively enough, it can be used like an instrument. But most people just slap it on to make themselves sound funkier than they are...and don't get creative and innovative enough with it where they're making music with IT more than the guitar chord that's been played.

Alpha Centauri Restricted
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
I said...IF it's used creatively enough, it can be used like an instrument.

But it's NOT an instrument.

-AC

Bardock42 Junior Member
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
I said...IF it's used creatively enough, it can be used like an instrument.

Though the guitar is the instrument and the pedal the addition.

N-no....I mean, I am sure AC does not deny that a guitar with a pedal has a wider variety than one without....but the guitar is the instrument...in that case a guitar with a pedal.

Alpha Centauri Restricted

How's the music upload going, EP?

You better be good.

-AC

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Originally posted by Bardock42
Though the guitar is the instrument and the pedal the addition.
Disagree. Not always. Most times yes...sometimes, no.

Bardock42 Junior Member

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Disagree. Not always
I mean, I am sure AC does not deny that a guitar with a pedal has a wider variety than one without....but the guitar is the instrument...in that case a guitar with a pedal.

Alpha Centauri Restricted

Stop avoiding my questions, EP. It's getting lame:

If I have you a pedal, NO guitar, just a pedal, could you write a song with it?

-AC

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OK smart guys...here's a question. What's a synthesizer?

AC? What's a synthesizer?