It's terrific how that has nothing to do with anything I just posted.
And I'm really waiting to see what vodo did with the Force that was so amazing....in the same topic, I'm not willing to take your word on the matter. Instead of constantly saying he is superior, give me some evidence. If a single Padawan can circumvent Kun's efforts to choke the entire group-and btw, it's not even near 20 Padawans- then Mace would be incapable of this, why?
You know what's amusing? You're trying to diminish a character by using his force spirit as the focal point of your argument. It took Luke, 20 students, and Vodo to destroy the 4,000 year old spiriit of Exar Kun, who as a spirit was nowhere near as powerful as he was as a human. We've had this debate constantly and you've constantly lost it. Kun's sith magic, alchemy, offensive force abilities, and raw force potential are all vastly superior to Mace. VASTLY Lightsnake...
I didn't bring the issue up, DS. You did and I issued a refutation in return, so don't try a smear campaign.
Now, you keep saying all this, but all I hear are claims with zero evidence.
Btw, it was far less than 20 students and Kun was already bested when Vodo and Luke even showed up.
Please, make more points
Originally posted by Lightsnake
I didn't bring the issue up, DS. You did and I issued a refutation in return, so don't try a smear campaign.Now, you keep saying all this, but all I hear are claims with zero evidence.
Btw, it was far less than 20 students and Kun was already bested when Vodo and Luke even showed up.
Please, make more points [/B]
Zero proof? I just gave you proof, you choose to ignore it because youre fighting a lost cause. Kun was above and beyond everyone during his time, and as a spirit he wtfpwned virtually everybody. Mixed with his VAST knowledge of sith magic and techniques Mace hasn't even heard of(hell probably everything except force lightning), Mace doesn't stand a chance in hell against Kun in the force. I've made my points and it's quite obvious, I have yet to see anyone offer ANYTHING resembling an argument in favor of Mace over Kun in force abilities.
A tad late, but I just found it, DS:
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=11&page=009
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=11&page=010
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=11&page=011
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=11&page=012
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=11&page=043
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=11&page=045
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=11&page=064
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=11&page=075
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=11&page=085
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=11&page=087
They may not all be quality, but Maul uses one in each one of these.
How is double teaming a surprise Luke and launching a failed attack against a small group of Padawans pwning anyone, DS?
and please...Mace is one of the Few Jedi with straight access to the SIth holocrons, which he did study. I am waiting for direct proof to your claims, now. I expect them to be provided with adequate showings of power.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
How is double teaming a surprise Luke and launching a failed attack against a small group of Padawans pwning anyone, DS?and please...Mace is one of the Few Jedi with straight access to the SIth holocrons, which he did study. I am waiting for direct proof to your claims, now. I expect them to be provided with adequate showings of power.
Translation: I have no argument for Mace even being on the same level as Kun so I will continue playing dumb until he starts posting, then I can finally go to sleep satisfied..
I gave you a list that trumps anything Mace has ever done with the force, I don't care if you accept it or not. But Kun>Mace in force abilities, you're just going to have to deal with it. Don't boohoo to me.
Originally posted by jollyjim311
A tad late, but I just found it, DS:http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=11&page=009
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=11&page=010
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=11&page=011
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=11&page=012
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=11&page=043
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=11&page=045
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=11&page=064
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=11&page=075
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=11&page=085
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=11&page=087They may not all be quality, but Maul uses one in each one of these.
Dude Jim there's a difference between holding the blade and twirling it like a baton like a cheerleader or gay dude, and using it in saber combat with one hand. Maul CANNOT physically do that..
I have answered literally everything you have said. I am waiting for the sources you previously mentioned, and quite simply, this doesn't need to continue if you can't handle anything that contradicts your viewpoints/
Oh, where did he drain gantoris? Drain does not result in someone being burnt to a crisp, so that's out. Sith Magic? The same sith magic that did not effect Jedi? The body ripping technique? Mace, unlike Luke, has had fifty years to study how to fight the Dark Side. AMulet blasts? Oh, right, the ones that start extremely small that Kun might never use given his natural arrogance?
Really, get over yourself
Originally posted by Lightsnake
I have answered literally everything you have said. I am waiting for the sources you previously mentioned, and quite simply, this doesn't need to continue if you can't handle anything that contradicts your viewpoints/
[/quote]Oh, where did he drain gantoris? Drain does not result in someone being burnt to a crisp, so that's out. Sith Magic? The same sith magic that did not effect Jedi? The body ripping technique? Mace, unlike Luke, has had fifty years to study how to fight the Dark Side. AMulet blasts? Oh, right, the ones that start extremely small that Kun might never use given his natural arrogance?
Really, get over yourself [/B]
Again: The amulet blasts start small. We know Mace has studied the Dark Side and a lot about the Sith in particular, with more than Kun had access to-a single Sith holocron contains more knowledge than just about anything else, Gantoris was an angry youth with no control, Kun did not pwn the students. In fact, he tried and they beat him, why can't you accept that?
He beat Luke because Luke was caught off guard, surprised and double teamed. Kun's amulet blasts were unstoppable? By walls and mindless beasts?
Please. Better argument
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Again: The amulet blasts start small. We know Mace has studied the Dark Side and a lot about the Sith in particular, with more than Kun had access to-a single Sith holocron contains more knowledge than just about anything else, Gantoris was an angry youth with no control, Kun did not pwn the students. In fact, he tried and they beat him, why can't you accept that?
He beat Luke because Luke was caught off guard, surprised and double teamed. Kun's amulet blasts were unstoppable? By walls and mindless beasts?Please. Better argument [/B]
My argument trumps your argument. The amulet blasts were large, and destroyed anything their way. No reason to believe Mace can dodge anything of that magnitude, nor block anything on that level. You haven't even made an argument, besides making excuses and justifications on why Kun is somehow below Mace(false of course).
Originally posted by Lightsnake
May I ask why you repeat the same thing over and over?Make you a deal: I'll put you on ignore and take you off when you can conduct yourself maturely.
May I ask why you choose to ignore the facts and choose to throw in NO argument whatsoever, other than attempting to diminish a non PT character with your silly justifications? I'll make YOU a deal. You learn how to construct a logical NON BIASED argument, and people will start taking you seriously.