DC Comics: The Final Crisis!

Started by Philosophía101 pages

Also, some interesting parts from Grant's interview:

This is the death of a massive icon that's been around for 70 years. Did you come up with the idea yourself? Did Dan approach you? How did the lead up happen?
MORRISON: I was kind of approached by Dan to do something like this once he heard the title of "Batman R.I.P," which for me was more of a psychological deconstruction of Batman. Dan saw a way to tie things together. And I keep on stressing for people not to think of this as death. This is part of the story. There's more cool sh-- to come. It'd be too easy to think of this as the end.

So we might not be seeing the last of Bruce Wayne?
MORRISON: Not necessarily, but there's going to be quite a few twists and turns on the way.

And the part that got me cheering:

Like you said, the story becomes, "What happens next?" [DC's] doing a lot of stories following up on this, from Battle for the Cowl to Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader?. But when are you coming back to Batman?
MORRISON: The plan is for me to come back sometime around the summer. We got big plans. The story is not by any means over.

How long do you plan on being on Batman? Is it just a character you love and want to stay with for as long as possible?
MORRISON: Yeah. The story really just kept rolling and I got so involved with the characters. Bruce Wayne, I've just grown to love the guy. The fact of what's happened to him today has broken many hearts, including mine. I've gotten really, really into the book. I didn't think, when I started, I was going to love it quite as much. So, I'm just going to keep going until this storyline wraps up.

🙂

Originally posted by Philosophía
Once the issues are carefully read, it becomes pretty obvious that the answer is the Devil, though not in the 'I'm so powerfull' sense but more like stripped to its basic, original form, trying to destroy Batman. With the curse he layed upon Bruce the last time they met, which was fulfilled in Final Crisis (the next time he wears the cowl will be his last), this ideea is further enhanced. Not to mention that the funny thing is that people thought that the numerous Devil references and in some instances even flat-out stating that the Devil is the main villain are just formes of hyperbole with hidden meaning when in fact what Grant wrote was quite literal.

i agree. after i'd actually sat down and read it, i couldnt understand why people thought it was so complicated. i quite like the rather spiritual side of everything, and i think it benefits the comic greatly...

Final Crisis: Revelations and the writer aswell have pretty much suggested that what Darkseid does is actually all part of God's plan, so this whole 'I won the war in heaven/I'm taking away free will' isn't actually defying God's will but only another step in the supposed grand plan.

that was something else i wasnt sure of, as i had more than one theory as regards what was going on. there is what, two more issues of revelations to go?

Originally posted by Raoul
i agree. after i'd actually sat down and read it, i couldnt understand why people thought it was so complicated. i quite like the rather spiritual side of everything, and i think it benefits the comic greatly...

👆

Originally posted by Raoul
that was something else i wasnt sure of, as i had more than one theory as regards what was going on. there is what, two more issues of revelations to go?

One more. There's also a Spectre refference in Final Crisis #6 with Zatanna and the mystics trying to summon him from the 'afterworlds' (so this might suggest that at the end of Revelations Spectre ends up not being in the main-Universe, with a possible comeback and fight with Mandrakk in the last issue).

Originally posted by Philosophía
Also, some interesting parts from Grant's interview:

And the part that got me cheering:

🙂

Thanks for posting the interview. w00t

I may have to take back some of the things I've said about you though. mmm

Originally posted by Philosophía
One more. There's also a Spectre refference in Final Crisis #6 with Zatanna and the mystics trying to summon him from the 'afterworlds' (so this might suggest that at the end of Revelations Spectre ends up not being in the main-Universe, with a possible comeback and fight with Mandrakk in the last issue).

yeah, i saw that. wonder if its still crispin, now with extra strength faith, or if the spectre is hostless in the afterworlds...

Originally posted by jumpmann
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Cool cheers 😄

Originally posted by Badabing
I may have to take back some of the things I've said about you though. mmm

Hmm.. what things?

Originally posted by Raoul
yeah, i saw that. wonder if its still crispin, now with extra strength faith, or if the spectre is hostless in the afterworlds...

The final issue of Revelations comes out the same day as the last issue of Final Crisis (in 2 weeks), so it might be possible that Crispus is left trying to save Spectre while Renee goes to meet Checkmate like in this last issue, only for it all to be resolved in Final Crisis #7 with Spectre and the others going up against Mandrakk.

Or Batman temporarily borrows Spectre and kicks Mandrakk's ass. Who knows. 🙂

Originally posted by Philosophía
Hmm.. what things?

shocking, horrifying things...

The final issue of Revelations comes out the same day as the last issue of Final Crisis (in 2 weeks), so it might be possible that Crispus is left trying to save Spectre while Renee goes to meet Checkmate like in this last issue, only for it all to be resolved in Final Crisis #7 with Spectre and the others going up against Mandrakk.

Or Batman temporarily borrows Spectre and kicks Mandrakk's ass. Who knows. 🙂

😂

Originally posted by Philosophía
Or Batman temporarily borrows Spectre and kicks Mandrakk's ass. Who knows. 🙂
I like it! 👆

I liked it, I do hope we get to see more of Darkseid seeing we only got to see him in 2 freaking pages in 6 and we only have 1 more to go.. See what happens I guess.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Or Batman temporarily borrows Spectre and kicks Mandrakk's ass. Who knows. 🙂

😱 The powerful wrath of God..... now with sweet fighting skills!!!! 😱

Originally posted by Digi
Superman furious = Skyfather. Not a joke. He becomes jobber aura personified. So I don't really think that we need to read it as an upgrade. I also took it to mean the Miracle Machine sent him back. Though with such a build-up from Brainy, you'd think Superman could just will DS out of existence or something. I would've lol'd.

No fight yet, apparently. I guess synopses can lie as much as covers.

Im pretty sure he has been upgraded. If you read Superman beyond, we see Mandrakk making reference to "Cosmic Armour". Now the fight is obviously taking place on Earth, and its pretty obvious that the character is Mandrakk. The armour therefore is for Mandrakk, not D.S.

Originally posted by Raoul

will there ever be an end to your hate?

For this series?
Originally posted by starlock
This all feels...Elseworld-ish...there seems to be no weight to the story...bruces apparent death..felt rushed and not really all that important...i griped in the begining about how crappy this series is...and i have not changed my stance....i dont see one issue salvaging this... for me at least.

What he said.

Originally posted by Vally Doosh
For this series?

What he said.

Sorry ... don't you ambassadors the greatness of the original Crisis ?

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
Sorry aren't you the one ambassadors the greatness of the original Crisis ?

he's an ambassador for hate.

I've never really said much on the original Crisis other than it being better as a whole than Infinite Crisis (which was better than Final Crisis).

Originally posted by Raoul
he's an ambassador for hate.

What ... like Pierce Morgan ?

Originally posted by Vally Doosh
I've never really said much on the original Crisis other than it being better as a whole than Infinite Crisis (which was better than Final Crisis).

Your taste fails !

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
What ... like Pierce Morgan ?

😂

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
Your taste fails !

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