Superheroes (without powers) slug fest

Okay, now that we have all the info, I'm going to go with:

1. Thor
2. Diana
3. Thing
4. Colossus
5. Superman

In most situations I don't think the weight difference would make a difference. I don't remember who it was that talked about the guy at the gym who is 6'6 and 300pounds. If he is not a trained fighter he still gets his butt handed to him because a skilled fighter would know how to turn the weight disadvantage into an advantage. Not to mention that the more skilled fighter probably wouldn't take any blows and would know exactly how to attack.

Thor is another animal though. He is a huge guy that also is a trained warrior. He's the only one on the list that comes close to Diana's skill. Close enough that his physical advantage would remain so. She would embarrass just about everyone else though.

1. Thor
2. Thing
3. Colossus
4. Wonder Woman

simple thing is in real human bodies if diana gets a knock from one of the big guys here she is out. manny paquiao may be a really talented boxer, but he would get killed in a brawl with someone like big show.
sure diana is probs p4p the best here like but this isn't a tournament with rules and stuff its a fight. she gets destroyed

Originally posted by Superherovandal
didn't WW take down Shiva in a sparring match without her powers. and also size won't matter when skill comes in. Sure he's stronger. But she's shown way more skill and i'd be inclined to say that tactically she's better. Skill and smarts trumps size and strength. Are you honestly saying that if one of the world's most skilled martial artists faced a pretty skilled strongman that the strong man would win. no the skill would allow her to win. Size and strength gets pwned by skill.

THor has enough skill coupled with his size advantage to make Diana's skill advantage moot.

There is a reason that there are weight classes in pro MA's

We still talk about comic book fights right???
Not a real live situation???

Than I guess
1. WW
2. Thor

Other than that I'm not really sure who would be number 3 would be between cain, ben, supes and piotr.

In a real fight since some of the guy's are pretty big and also got some skill maybe not as much as WW, but I believe there size would be to much for her skill.

I disagree on the part that a bigger guy would alway's win only because of his size.

Thor bashes WW head in.

That isn't actually what people are saying, they're saying that Thor is good enough that his massive size advantage more than makes up for WW's edge in skill.

Originally posted by Silent Master
That isn't actually what people are saying, they're saying that Thor is good enough that his massive size advantage more than makes up for WW's edge in skill.

Wenn has size been more important in comics than skill?
They most of the time play the skill trick in saying a guy or girl knows all the martial arts in the world or something like that.
I mean ain't that the deal with all those street level guy's that they have some amazing ma skill so they can hang or last a while against those super strong type's?

I mean we still talk about a comic book fight right not a real fight, iff we are talking about a real fight than sure her skill wouldn't help her that much against guy's who are three times heavier with some skills or for some who has some good skills.

Thing wins
Than Thor or Colossus (lets go with the majority and say Thor)
So Colossus is next
Than we can have WW

Nobody is saying Wonder Woman's skill isn't important, they're saying that ITO she doesn't have enough of a skill edge to overcome somone of Thor's skill that also has a massive size advantage.

thor without powers is still a multi-ton lifting asgardian.

I was just going by how strong someone his size would likely be in a normal human body, I'd say he'd be close to if not a little over 300 pounds seeing as Cap is supposed to be around 240 and Thor is both taller and drawn noticeably larger.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
thor without powers is still a multi-ton lifting asgardian.

Good point.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I was just going by how strong someone his size would likely be in a normal human body, I'd say he'd be close to if not a little over 300 pounds seeing as Cap is supposed to be around 240 and Thor is both taller and drawn noticeably larger.

Yeah that would matter in a real live fight, but like I said before people who have more skill in comics seem to be able to last longer or far better than they would in a real live situation.
It's like in the comics the person with more skill would win more easier.
Than the guy with the muscle's.
And I'm not saying that Thor is unskilled or not unless someone can show me he's really close to her in the skill department.
I'll change my mind.

Strength and size advantages also matter in comics, granted not as much as they would in real life, but they do matter.

What I and other people are saying is that we believe Thor's his size and strength advantage when combined with his skill trumps Wonder Woman's slight skill advantage.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Strength and size advantages also matter in comics, granted not as much as they would in real life, but they do matter.

What I and other people are saying is that we believe Thor's his size and strength advantage when combined with his skill trumps Wonder Woman's slight skill advantage.

I kind of agree Thor's size and strength and relative skill will over come what skill advantage WW has. I admit WW is very badass and tends to rely on her h2h combat skills but without her powers her skill alone is not enough. But think about this...

WW is of amazon decent trained despite being a clay figure. Lets just say she has a body of a amazon warrior, which she does. Her strength would be the only one comparable to Thor's physical poweress but not enough. Thor 7/10. Then WW, Thing, Colossus the rest should just be average.

Also Bruce Lee would easily kick the living crap out of Big Show and Under Taker at the same time in a freaking straight jacket 😎

Originally posted by Lord Feron

Also Bruce Lee would easily kick the living crap out of Big Show and Under Taker at the same time in a freaking straight jacket 😎

minus the straight jacket and in a ring, he might get the undertaker but not the big show also. 143lbs vs approximately 260 +/- lbs and 450 +/- lbs = a very tired bruce lee.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
as a person that actually does martial arts...i will have to disagree with that.

minus the straight jacket and in a ring, he might get the undertaker but not the big show also. 143lbs vs approximately 260 +/- lbs and 450 +/- lbs = a very tired bruce lee.

But he'd still hurt Bruce pretty bad imo.

two on one is never good, especially since in real life your opponents won't run at you single file.

Oh I wasn't even thinking about at the same time, Bruce Lee pretty much has no chance.

People thinks martial arts gives you some mythical super power.