Superheroes (without powers) slug fest

Originally posted by FrothByte
Oh, well at least that clears the batman issue. like i said, i admit i didn't read the issue, just heard about it.

about comics showing who is using more skill... it does show WW doing more h2h than thor coz thor has his hammer most of the time... but is that enough to conclude she's better?

when thor does use h2h, we usually see him punching and wrestling while we see WW do more kung-fu style moves... but boxing and wrestling are still considered martial arts... 2 of the oldest and most effective.

just coz its more flashy doesn't necessarily mean its better martial arts. So maybe WW is better in h2h (i'm actually inclined to think she is), but it might not be. I just don't think we can conclude she is better simply because she is drawn doing fancier moves, especially when we're comparing her to a guy whose been training for a thousand or more years more than her.

Sure boxing and wrestling works for the big guy's, she has to use her speed and those flashy moves.
You say that boxing and wrestling is more affective well that doesn't count for her.
Not in this fight or well iff she has some kind of submission hold she can apply very fast she does, iff she doesn't she would lose a lot of energy and she would end up getting ground and pound in to the ground.
So she has to try and take it to distance make it a long fight.
Pretty sure most of them would end up on the ground exhausted after 5 maybe 10 minutes
They are sure to get tierd sooner than her.
Since they have to support that weight iff she can put in a lot of low kicks to the knee's she can even make them more slower.

But what the heck iff you guy's are convinced that thor is close or better than what the heck I can put him in the number one spot.

Originally posted by Mindset
Cain wasn't skinny before getting the gem.

and he was a bully, bullies by definition are big. 😐

Thor 1st, equal skill and exp as Diana but is male so he wins.
Wonderwoman - too much skill for the others
Surfer mass exp
Colossus shown to be good without using ability
Juggernaut fairly tough as Cain....
Spider-man
Thing
Flash
Superman

😐

Batman

Thor wins this one because he has centuries of combat experience (and not just with his powers, but actual hand to hand experience) and you have to add in the attitude of the person going into the fight (we all know the the mind is the most effective tool in winning any fight or physical conflict). Wonder Woman is an Amazonian warrior (one of the best if not the best) and is wonderful for strategy and martial arts, but Thor is the best warrior, and the most skilled of a people that waring is their way of life, they literally live to die by battle. and then there's warrior madness Thor where he goes into a mode where the only thing that matters to his is your defeat (and with Thor being a viking that usually means death) . by this reasiong I belive Thor will win.

bump

Wonder Woman

bump

Thor is just as accomplished a warrior as WW, he isn't as flashy as WW, but when has a REAL fight ever been about who had flashier moves? He's bigger and stronger, too.

And as for extreme skill always beatingm skilled brawn, you guys should check the Couture vs Lesner fight.

bump

1: Thor
2: Diana
3: Ben, Piotr
4: Supes
5: Cain
6: Wally, Parker

Strength matter but a skilled and experienced person can take down far larger opponents. In comics MA are bsically treated like another superpower making it even better. However strength still matters quite a bit.

its like half the people here have never been in or even watched a real fight. skill is very important but size and strength are being way underrated. i blame bruce lee and chuck norris movies. in sports like boxing, kick boxing, mma, olympic wrestling etc. they have these things called weight classes for a reason. even the least skilled heavyweights will dominate the most skilled lightweights everyday. sure if u take a big goofy dude thats never been in a fight against an extremly skilled fighter the skilled guy would prob win but if u take a 6'6'' guy weighing almost a quarter ton who has thousands of years fighting exp vs someone who is slightly more skilled but a foot shorter and out weighed by hundreds of lbs, like thor vs ww, shes getting pummled, simple as that.

Originally posted by Mshinu
1: Thor
2: Diana
3: Ben, Piotr
4: Supes
5: Cain
6: Wally, Parker

Originally posted by khazra
I like this list...maybe put thing down to jont 4th and keep pete 3rd.
SUperman & thing are both good fighters but pete is a bit better and bigger.

Maybe.. I guess arguments could be made either way as to who is most skilled of Ben and Pete. I Just put them as equals this time to avoid nitpicking.

LFMAO at Ben being higher then Superman 😂

Thor wins. More experience fighting as a human than most and most experienced here period, arguably the most skilled fighter here etc. Also depending by what definition of without powers he is, he can still be far above everybody in strength and durability. Even then, his still a nearly 7 feet etc.

Diana comics in second.

Thor
WW
Thing

Someone would have to be a real FOOL to put W.W. before Thor!

colossus is the strongest here with out powers. he still bench press 550 pounds

Thor is a moron. All those years of experience and CA still fights better. He's a super slow learner.

Diana has shown far more fighting skill than Thor. We go by what is SHOWN over what is speculated. Also Diana has too lived for at least thousands of years. So she has experience and skill. With that said, I say Diana uses her superior knowledge of counter attack and pressure points to beat the stronger men here. Otherwise, I see Thing possibly winning here.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor is a moron. All those years of experience and CA still fights better. He's a super slow learner.

Diana has shown far more fighting skill than Thor. We go by what is SHOWN over what is speculated. Also Diana has too lived for at least thousands of years. So she has experience and skill. With that said, I say Diana uses her superior knowledge of counter attack and pressure points to beat the stronger men here. Otherwise, I see Thing possibly winning here.

Heh, that's funny. Thor doesn't use fancy moves but he is still as effective at the least. When he was powerless he was doing just as well as Captain America, keeping up with him at the least etc. against an army of opponents (Even Captain America is surprised by how impressive Thor is.). Heck as I recall, Thor even took down opponents that dropped Captain America in the beginning of the issue as I recall.

Thor also has genuis level I.Q. when he wants to.

No, not really from what I've seen. Prove it.

That's nice. Thor has lived for like millions of years going by some interpretations.

Debatable at the very least that she has superior knowledge. Superman also has pressure point knowledge, and Thor has shown to use jabs etc. before as well.