Spider-man vs Bone Claw Wolverine · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by brainchild81
😆 He could, but it would f**king kill them. Come on now Jinzin. Spidey could actually pull this off against Wolvie since he wouldn't have to worry much about Wolvie dieing from it.

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you're sorely underestimating their durability, these are guys who take punches from hyde who ISN'T holding back on account of CIS, add that little factor and Spidey isn't punching holes through anybody.

I don't get what makes you people think that as soon as we're talking about a human comic book hero that makes it real all the sudden and not a comic book anymore..

brainchild81 Privateer

Isn't that PIS then?

jinzin Senior Member

No more so than peter parker having super powers from a radiated spider bite. 😬

BUSTER1 Senior Member

Jinzin Wolverine power has been amped big time since his first appearance-its a fact-he is not as strong as Spiderman.When he was first created the were going to make hime as strong but didn't. In thereprint of his first appearance in Hulk#181-182, this is expalined in a back back up feature. Alson in this story the Hulk sucker puinches Wolvie and it states in the narration that
only the fact that Wolverine reacts so that is is a glancing blow + his astonishing stamina SAVES HIS LIFE. That was against Savage Hulk. In Wolverines most rtecent fight with Hulk, against the World War Hulk incarnation, who is even strong er than Savage Hulk, he receives a baarage of solid (not gllancing) puches from the Hulk, who stating that he can't kill Wolverine, only manages to knock him out. You telling me he aint been amped up over the years

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by Soljer
No, I'm ignoring nine pages of arguments I've heard a million times before. Spiderman probably couldn't one punch Bone Claw Wolverine, but he could certainly put a fist through him if he so chose. At which point, Logan'd take a bit of time to heal, whilst Spidey can repeat said process.

rough house could not and Logan was chained up. What makes you think spiderman can?

srankmissingnin VP of Comic Knowledge

Punching a whole in Wolverine would result in the entry wound healing around the attackers arm... giving Wolverine ample opportunity to remove said arm from his attacker's body. 😎

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by BUSTER1
Jinzin Wolverine power has been amped big time since his first appearance-its a fact-he is not as strong as Spiderman.

I didn't say he was.

Originally posted by BUSTER1
When he was first created the were going to make hime as strong but didn't. In thereprint of his first appearance in Hulk#181-182, this is expalined in a back back up feature. Alson in this story the Hulk sucker puinches Wolvie and it states in the narration that

Exactly, so they aren't writing him up, they wrote him down.

Originally posted by BUSTER1
only the fact that Wolverine reacts so that is is a glancing blow + his astonishing stamina SAVES HIS LIFE. That was against Savage Hulk.

Wolverine was up almost immediately after that. 😬
Before that happened he got body slammed by Hulk full out.
And he was still recovering from a gas that was strong enough to knock him AND Hulk out, given the fact that he doesn't draw his energy from pocket demension like Hulk does and it IS finite, one assumes he was more affected.

Originally posted by BUSTER1
In Wolverines most rtecent fight with Hulk, against the World War Hulk incarnation, who is even strong er than Savage Hulk, he receives a baarage of solid (not gllancing) puches from the Hulk, who stating that he can't kill Wolverine, only manages to knock him out. You telling me he aint been amped up over the years

Like I said, the only "amping" that he's gone through has been with his healing factor which makes sense and half explains the Hulk thing. After he recovered from his admantium being pulled he continued his natural evolution Prof X states:
"wounds that would have mortal to him before would be only a minor annoyance to him now"...
So it makes sense.

BUSTER1 Senior Member

fair enough -you got me on the increase in healing factor increase Jinzin, as i was unaware that his mutant power evolved. by the way that sucker punch i spoke of -it ended the fight from Hulk#182 Wolvie didn't get back up-the body slam you mentioned was from earlier in the fight

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by BUSTER1
fair enough -you got me on the increase in healing factor increase Jinzin, as i was unaware that his mutant power evolved. by the way that sucker punch i spoke of -it ended the fight from Hulk#182 Wolvie didn't get back up-the body slam you mentioned was from earlier in the fight

I know that the sucker punch ended the fight, but you wrote it out as if that's all that Wolverine was able to take from Hulk; one sucker punch, when in reality he took the sucker punch, plus a bodyslam, plus the gas. He probably wasn't fighting anywhere near 100% by the time the sucker punch went down.

Soljer Beware my Power

Originally posted by Battlehammer
rough house could not and Logan was chained up. What makes you think spiderman can?

Pressure is inversely related to surface area. Take a hypodermic needle, stick it into your arm. No problem. Take a sharpie marker and try to stick IT into your arm, using the same amount of force. It's going nowhere.

Roughhouse's fists are HUGE compared to Spiderman's. Spiderman'd have a MUCH - MUCH - MUCH - MUCH easier time pushing his fist through Logan.

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by Soljer
Pressure is inversely related to surface area. Take a hypodermic needle, stick it into your arm. No problem. Take a sharpie marker and try to stick IT into your arm, using the same amount of force. It's going nowhere.
Roughhouse's fists are HUGE compared to Spiderman's. Spiderman'd have a MUCH - MUCH - MUCH - MUCH easier time pushing his fist through Logan.

so then you are talking about the meaty parts...

meh, still if your stance is something set by who lands the first hit I don't see why it wouldn't be Logan, in this fight Logan is 300 pounds lighter, and isn't inhibited by admantium poisioning, he'll be moving far faster than normal and we've already seen that an admantiumized Wolverine can tag Spidey.
Meanwhile Spiderman faces the same problem that he does in the other threat, his webs can be negotiated and his hits are not guaranteed to put Logan down, while Wolverine only needs one decent hit to end this.

Soljer Beware my Power

Errr - 100 pounds lighter, if I recall correctly. Isn't Wolverine about three hundred pounds with adamantium, and two hundred without?

Tyrant Dead

Originally posted by Soljer
Errr - 100 pounds lighter, if I recall correctly. Isn't Wolverine about three hundred pounds with adamantium, and two hundred without?

Nope.
He'll weigh zero pounds in this fight.

Which, doesn't seem like a good idea...
Anyway, Spider-Man takes off his mask, and does super breath (at least that would be what it would seem like), and Wolverine floats into the sky like a balloon.

Spider-Man wins.

Soljer Beware my Power

Originally posted by Tyrant
Nope.
He'll weigh zero pounds in this fight.
Which, doesn't seem like a good idea...
Anyway, Spider-Man takes off his mask, and does super breath (at least that would be what it would seem like), and Wolverine floats into the sky like a balloon.
Spider-Man wins.

Well, if he LITERALLY weighed zero pounds, there'd be no substance for Spidey's 'super breath' to blow away. I mean, even dust and air itself weighs something, even if it's nearly negligible.

And, anyways, I thought Wolverine's weight was TRULY about 295, meaning he'd weigh -5 pounds for the fight....Spiderman wouldn't HAVE to blow him away - he'd float away from the battlefield and BFR himself.

😬. Spidey, 10/10 on account of Wolverine's self BFR?

Tyrant Dead

Originally posted by Soljer
Well, if he LITERALLY weighed zero pounds, there'd be no substance for Spidey's 'super breath' to blow away. I mean, even dust and air itself weighs something, even if it's nearly negligible.
And, anyways, I thought Wolverine's weight was TRULY about 295, meaning he'd weigh -5 pounds for the fight....Spiderman wouldn't HAVE to blow him away - he'd float away from the battlefield and BFR himself.
😬. Spidey, 10/10 on account of Wolverine's self BFR?

Tiny molecules far spread out?

Yup.

Soljer Beware my Power

Originally posted by Tyrant
Tiny molecules far spread out?
Yup.

Even tiny molecules are affected by a gravitational field, and, therefore, have some weight. If they were tiny enough, or immaterial enough not to be affected by one of the three fundamental forces, they most certainly would neither be affected by a breeze - or Spiderman's breath, in this case.

Tyrant Dead

Originally posted by Soljer
Even tiny molecules are affected by a gravitational field, and, therefore, have some weight. If they were tiny enough, or immaterial enough not to be affected by one of the three fundamental forces, they most certainly would neither be affected by a breeze - or Spiderman's breath, in this case.

But it still weighs around zero pounds. Also Wolverine could be made of neutrinos here... ermm
Just thinking how he can be that light, and still be in the fight.

Unless Wolverine is exactly 300 pounds lighter... maybe Jin actually meant 294.9999 (...), etc?
Or 299.9999, since I've heard him say he was 300 pounds before.

Anyway, Spider-Man wins.

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by Soljer
Errr - 100 pounds lighter, if I recall correctly. Isn't Wolverine about three hundred pounds with adamantium, and two hundred without?

When he stated the weight of his admantium skeleton he said that it was 300 pounds. 😬

Badabing Gym rat

Originally posted by jinzin
When he stated the weight of his admantium skeleton he said that it was 300 pounds. 😬

I thought he was 300 lbs with the adamantium????

brainchild81 Privateer

You thought right

Originally posted by jinzin
When he stated the weight of his admantium skeleton he said that it was 300 pounds. 😬

Then somebody writing it f*cked up. Wolvie weighs 300 w/the skeleton & 200 w/out. Another thing about the graveyard fight.... Why would Wolvie start off avoiding punches & then just stand there jinzin?