Originally posted by Borbarad
The visual dictionary is equally flawed. It was also released the same time the movie was so the information displayed in it might be correct to a certain extend, yet it's based on the same script version like the novel which is completely different from what the movie shows.
It's flawd. OH, why's this? IT contradicts your opinion? Considering there aren't points where the visual dictionary contradicts the movie, your point is incredibly flawed.
Especially considering it remains a part of SW canon that, shockingly, agree with one another...in fact, Nai, the only thing that doesn't agree with you.
See above. And there's absolutely zero contradictions to the movie ? You mean like the Visual Dictionary lists Anakin and Obi-Wan to have used different forms when they use their original styles in the movie ? I spot a contradiction there. And it was new to me that the [b]visual dictionary now has to say anything on characters thoughts. Unless they are visible in the movie nowadays.
Oh, yes. What portion of this would it be? Oh, right, the Lucas approved portion that states they hold back to draw Dooku into a false sense of security?
Now, then, where in the movies do Obi-wan and Anakin state 'We're using Forms V and III!"
Right. what was the point you're making here?
Oh, and it's great the visual dictionary does indeed have things to say on characters' motivations and thoughts, especially considering it's putting down information that should be obvious visually.
If they actually make sense, Lightsnake. That Dooku thinks he can't hold back any longer when Obi-Wan and Anakin almost kill him multiple times seems to be logical. Thinking the same thing while handing Obi-Wan and Anakin their asses doesn't make sense.
Yes, and if you bother to read the novelization, Dooku nearly dies because he's taking them too lightly, gets serious, regains control and then leads Anakin on a merry dance, gets overconfident and then realizes "Hey, maybe I shouldn't have provoked this kid, he's way stronger than I thought!"
The latter portion of that? Happens right in the films. The movie shows Anakin defeating him when provoked, the ROTS novelization has Dooku's own thoughts-which according to Chee, etc, etc- the visual dictionary, chronology, Visual Guide....
Again: maybe you ought to reevaluate your opinion just a bit when everything but you says you're wrong on this subject
And stop coming up with that freaking lies. Everything in the novels not coming from Lucas himself is C-Canon.
And when that came under any sort of scrutiny in this debate until you mentioned it now?
Once more, Lightsnake.
They aren't G-Canon. If you can't proof that something is coming from Lucas directly than it's C-Canon even if it's in the novel. End of story. And if something doesn't appear on screen it - simple as that - didn't happen.
Tell it to Chee, not me.
Next point, please.
Yes...if he reached his potential, with did never happen. RotS Anakin = Obi-Wan Kenobi in terms of force mastery which is far below Dooku.
Based on one single force push? That still sends Obi-wan flying back harder? Dooku himself realizes that 'Anakin is more powerful than he had imagined?'
Palpatine comments in the movie Anakin>Dooku?
Anything else?
Yes. Because Anakin was more powerful when it came to potential, which Sidious did know, considering he called him more powerful than Yoda and himself. However. It's a simply fact that Anakin wasn't as powerful as Dooku because otherwise he would have curbstomped Kenobi on Mustafar during their little force contest. Which - surprise, suprise - didn't happen.
Ah, right. Palpatine must be referring to '[potential'...not 'power' as in 'power' when we just saw Anakin defeat Dooku when Dooku taunted him about not 'using his anger and hate' and in a similar state as when he defeats Dooku, Anakin simultaneously defeats Cin Drallig and his students.
Different fights, different environments, different circumstance.
The movie, AKA, G-canon says clearly Anakin is more powerful than Dooku. Where in the world do you pull 'potential' from? Why do you ignore in RODV that Palpatine tells Anakin if Dooku had been more powerful, he'd have ended up walking over Anakin's corpse to sit at Palpatine's right hand?
anything that really backs up your opinion, Nai? Anything that even makes a dent in anything official?
Oh yes. It's substantiated in a few other spots. The factual evidence of Anakin's force mastery can be seen right on screen when he tries to force push Obi-Wan Kenobi. His lightsaber mastery can be seen a little bit later, when he takes a nice lava bath because being a stupid idiot who's totally overestimating his abilities. No wait. That actually doesn't seem to put him above Dooku. [/B]
Who loses his hands and head for being an overconfident idiot against Anakin? Who also kills Cin Drallig while distracted by using the Force on someone else, while simultaneously fighting him with only one hand? Who also slaughters a Jedi Master skilled enough to slow the entire Clone Advance by himself=as seen in Dark Nest's replays from the past?
But, hey, why even bother taking this into consideration? I don't recall many hints of the idea that Dooku was supposed to throw the fight in the movie.....hey, that idea originates in what you term C-canon, after all..
If you want to continue this, quit the double-standards