M. Bison vs Kyo Kusanagi and Iori Yagami

Originally posted by Sado22
Rugal died because he couldn't contain the power, brain. don't sugar coat it. only those of bloodline can control it is basically saying that only those of hte bloodline have the power to control it. you're good at playing a foo, but don't over do it😉
and then there is the bit about Iori carrying way more of the orochi power than Rugal did (from Goenitz's own words, Rugal only got a percentage of Orochi power).
and finally, the % of orochi power was pwning the entire cast of KoF95....while Iori not only has more but isn't being destroyed either.
so get with it. Iori=godtier........proven one fact after another.

~Sado

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
No need to thank me, Sado... some people just get too carried away by "special bloodline" term and say dumb things like "he's sort of dirty mutie, he gets all his power on the dish and he doesn't even train", which is totally stupid and offencive.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
No need to thank me, Sado... some people just get too carried away by "special bloodline" term and say dumb things like "he's sort of dirty mutie, he gets all his power on the dish and he doesn't even train", which is totally stupid and offencive.

Originally posted by Sado22
no not really, brain. we wouldn't be saying this unless it happened. when i came here people even claimed Terry Bogard could beat Iori Yagami. for all my love and respect for Terry, he isn't beating Iori. stalemate is as far as he will go (sorry PG but that's how i see it). but you remember that thread with terr vs. iori, and terry won by a landslide. ryu and iori had the same results. then people never acknowledged that bison jobbed ryu until i provided the links since no one believed me. emperor was one of the people who finally acknowledged it ONLY after cross checking. till then he denied it. remulus etc were also of the same category. so no, you're wrong.

I think Terry would last if there's a time limit(LAME) to save him, but if there is none, he's getting KOed of hospitalized.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Rugal died because he couldn't contain the power, brain. don't sugar coat it. only those of bloodline can control it is basically saying that only those of hte bloodline have the power to control it. you're good at playing a foo, but don't over do it😉

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Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Rugal died because he couldn't contain the power, brain. don't sugar coat it. only those of bloodline can control it is basically saying that only those of hte bloodline have the power to control it. you're good at playing a foo, but don't over do itwink

You aren't getting it. A fu*king infant of the bloodline will live w/it longer than Rugal did. You think this baby is stronger than Rugal? It's about the genes and is no indication of power level.

It was Sado who wrote that, not me...and genes of bloodline is directly related to ability to use power. Rugal did quite nice for a not-bloodline member. Those "special genes" are only related to the ability to channel power, especially sacred\cursed one like Orochi or Kusanagi\Yasakani. Regular humans are incapable to do that. Even gene transfusion isn't a pancure sometimes. The best people like Shingo can hope on is imitate some tricks with their own chi via studuing martial arts related to particular power (and invented to control and utilise power to its best in combat).
The thing about Iori, though, is that he's the beast even with his flame powers taken away. And with them...Sorry, Terry fanboys, but Terry will lose that. Probably even badly. Though, I'm saying that to HUGE Iori fan.

And normally Bison will get beaten more often than not, unless he's powered up immensely.

I've been saying that for years though, I never did say that either Iori or Kyo's power was entirely hereditary, alot of it comes from training, BUT the specific ability to wield the Magatama was hereditary, it's a very specific power.

And I never did state my oppinion on the match, I simply saw a few things I disagree with, and rebutted it.

As for this matchup, it really depends on which Bison we're using here.

Final Bison = Bison Wins
Normal Alpha Bison = Bison Loses
Post Alpha Bison = Bison Loses
Bison 2 = Bison probably loses
Shin Bison = Bison Wins.

Regular people don't have(as Sado pointed out) "flame genes". & Please stop going on about this stamina shit that keeps getting brought up for no reason.

You aren't getting it. A fu*king infant of the bloodline will live w/it longer than Rugal did. You think this baby is stronger than Rugal? It's about the genes and is no indication of power level.

and finally, what about the Iori=godtier thing. are you convinced now?
and why arent you replying to my PM?! 😠

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
when i came here people even claimed Terry Bogard could beat Iori Yagami. for all my love and respect for Terry, he isn't beating Iori. stalemate is as far as he will go (sorry PG but that's how i see it).

Well what can I say... I am not suprised he might as well be a japenese superman. People here and everywhere love Iori TO DEATH. Iori is usually the character that runs through everybody be it anime's, manga, or whatever...jesus christ I hate the f**king character.

You know what gets me, it's the fact that people are having seizures, and heart attacks when some folks claim that Kyo, Iori and K' are able to weild flames due to their bloodline. Though characters like Ryo just get stomped on and Terry gets called a jobber beater because he defeated the bossess in his game....that s!t here seems to be okay. Though mention how Kyo and Iori seem to have an advantage due to their bloodline, here comes the Kyo&Iori posse squad. Sh!t.

snk just doesn't like to officially release whose the strongest, so everything's basically assumptions. you don't have to agree with anyone claiming things like iori being god tier. if you think terry can beat iori, there's really no prof saying that he can't, since many things can happen in a team tournament, including qualifications.

if iori was really god tier, he would have been able to kill kyo already instead of always having trouble and having a draw or interference. the only time he cleanly won, was when kyo was struggling mentally, and the time he went riot of blood.

iori didn't successfully kill mukai either. he apparantly managed to ko him with kyo's help and he got up unscathed. i'll agree post 96 kyo/iori can quite possibly beat geonitz from the 96 timeline, by themselves. both of them would be superior to their former selves if you take them back in time from xi.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
It was Sado who wrote that, not me...and genes of bloodline is directly related to ability to use power. Rugal did quite nice for a not-bloodline member. Those "special genes" are only related to the ability to channel power, especially sacred\cursed one like Orochi or Kusanagi\Yasakani. Regular humans are incapable to do that. Even gene transfusion isn't a pancure sometimes. The best people like Shingo can hope on is imitate some tricks with their own chi via studuing martial arts related to particular power (and invented to control and utilise power to its best in combat).
The thing about Iori, though, is that he's the beast even with his flame powers taken away. And with them...Sorry, Terry fanboys, but Terry will lose that. Probably even badly. Though, I'm saying that to HUGE Iori fan.

And normally Bison will get beaten more often than not, unless he's powered up immensely.

Originally posted by Sado22
dude...for f--k's sake. i already explained to you that techniques pass on genetically for some retarded reason in videogames. i even gave you examples (to do it again: rugal, howards, kaphwans, mishimas). the kusanagi techniques of flame weilding passed on genetically to Kyo (same with Iori). hence the flame gene.
why are you being such a nutter?
and how about you actually read what i psoted brain. you don't respond to a single thing i say nor do you offer a rebuttal to the bloodline facts i psoted...all you do is post the ssame thing day it, day out. no offense, buddy, but its getting tedious. either you offer a rebutal or back out.

Originally posted by Sado22
like i said, cut with the sugar coating. why else would iori be mocking rugal and called him "WEAK" if all that was to it was genetics....which of course i already mentioned around 10 times in this and other threads that techniques pass on through genetics (again to give examples, howards, kaphwans, etc). there is no flame gene bud....not in the sense you're taking it.

Originally posted by Sado22
and finally, what about the Iori=godtier thing. are you convinced now?
and why arent you replying to my PM?! 😠

~Sado

The whole f*cking thing about Terry being still "unbeaten wolf" combined with that PIS non-canon victory over the avatar of Mars sometimes "work wonders" in Terry fanboys' minds.
There's nothing "lame" and offensive in Iori, Kyo and maybe even K' being better than Terry. Special bloodline is special only in the ability to wield flames, and those flames and techniques doesn't always equal! K' wields Kusanagi flames, but his fighting style has absolutely nothing to do with Kusanagi MA style.
On the other hand, Shingo has studied Kusanagi MA style, but he hasn't the ability to channel power, thus being only able to imitate some effects via his own chi.

Those sacred\cursed powers are just an odd version of chi with divine\demonic origin. And normal CHI powers are also sometimes inherited in KOF\FatalFury universe. Look at Howard bloodline.

I do think Terry would be capable of beating them even with the flames.

However I've got to agree about the Mars god BS. Ridiculous shit. I'm glad the lil ***** died.

And the victory was complete PIS possible only due to that what's-her-name commiting suicide to weaken Terry avatar. Yet there were several ridiculous theories full of Terry overhyping created on base of it. The most ridiculious one was about Terry capable on beating Orochi by himself.

I remember the days when Terrygoers actually had the guts to bring "Terry beats gods LOLZ" to the table with pride.

And Terry will never beat Orochi. If you give him the PIS blood he could do it, but otherwise he is stuck facing off a Plot Device he cannot overcome...even with his infinite heart.

😆 That heart shit always gets me. & that lousy movie had me wishing everybody would have died. I think Terry has a chance to beat K' under normal conditions and flameless Iori/Kyo. W/flames Kyo & especially Iori would literally cook his ass

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
I remember the days when Terrygoers actually had the guts to bring "Terry beats gods LOLZ" to the table with pride.

And Terry will never beat Orochi. If you give him the PIS blood he could do it, but otherwise he is stuck facing off a Plot Device he cannot overcome...even with his infinite heart.

And in those days awful sh*t sometimes happened there. Though I don't want to remind P-Geyser and Drink of Fury about some old sin of them, since their only guilt was actually making total fools out of themselves.

Originally posted by brainchild81
😆 That heart shit always gets me. & that lousy movie had me wishing everybody would have died. I think Terry has a chance to beat K' under normal conditions and flameless Iori/Kyo. W/flames Kyo & especially Iori would literally cook his ass

I do agree, but that won't be easy to him (both fights with K' with powers and powerless Iori). Kyo without powers also shouldn't be a noob by any means. He doesn't like hard work...and what? If you've been trained hard since early childhood, you eventually either become crazy about it or become to hate that.
The same version is plausible when we talk about K's hate of any official competitions and regular training. I think he got enough at NESTS. Kyo was lucky, he at least was trained by his father...

😆 That heart shit always gets me. DOF was hardcore and annoying. I'm not sure if my blood bro ever said that stuff. PG did renounce that stuff as non-canon, to his credit. He still gets a lil' emotional, but he's come a long way.

Past sins are deadly...

I remember when I joined a Ryu vs Morrigan thread and I noobishly stated Morrigan stood no chance unless she screwed Ryu.

Turns out I was wrong...but I had never played a Darkstalkers game before and had only seen Morrigan in marvel vs games so...anyways

Yeah...

Actually Terry Bogard was the second character on that forum (first being Storm) whom I become to respect less because of their dumbass fanboys...

The belief in Terry victory over avatar of god resulted in his placing against characters that would kill him in a few seconds.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=382309&highlight=title%3A%28Dante+vs+Terry+Bogard%29
The only limitation for Dante there was that he can't use his time manipulation powers🙂)

Wow...we're getting off topic though.

Still...Wow I am amazed.

Spite threads are classic when they actually work.

*Reminded of Gouki vs Trance Kuja*