Darth Bane vs Darth Sion

Started by Lightsnake7 pages

Because, Nihilus surrendered to the hunger...he became less and more than human.

But they both are wounds in the Force.

How can the Exile live without the Force and Nihilus can not?

Way I understood it, the Exile steadily regained her Force presence through bonds with other people.

Except when the exile became the exile, she ceased to live within the force, and then regained it. This is why Kreia sides with her and not Nihilus, because Nihilus cannot live without the force.

Kreia admires the Exile's dedication and choice to live without the Force, since Kreia herself seems to despise the Force and its machinations. However, DS and LS are correct: Nihilus cannot live without the Force; he must consume it. So while he and the Exile share on common characteristic, they both approached it in different ways. Whereas the Exile can regain her Force ability through bonds and aid and influence others, Nihilus can only strip down and dominate those he bonds with.

Strange though.

If the Exile chose to disconnect from the Force and become a wound....

Did Nihilus choose to become a wound who only exists by eating the Force?

Weird choice.

We don't know that Nihilus had a choice. He was like the exile in the fact that he just was...

There's some hinting that Nihilus embraces what he does initially out of hatred for the Jedi. But once he becomes a sort of Force feeder, he seems to lack any direction.

[Description of the Nihilus Mask] "You have taken this trophy from the remains of Darth Nihilus - it is the last surviving piece of the beast who died and was reborn in the shattered world of Malachor V. By taking it from him, you have gained a stronger tie to the Force.

So that's the source saying he was born on Malachor like the Exile...hm.

What's all this stuff about Nihilus dying?

Kreia says he is "already dead."

He is more "presence than flesh" according to Visas.

And the Legayc Comics say he escapd death by sealing his consciousness in his armor.

I think Nihilus' origin is one big continuity error.

i think it could mean that he was present during the battle of malachor (as a jedi) and should have died when the exile ordered the mass shadwo generator to be used by he somehow was able to survive it.

Nihilus was a Sith Lord who had a large degree of Power. It's safe to assume that as a Sith Lord, he didn't just know one technique of the force. He SHOWED us that he could use one technique, yes ... He also had the ability to force push and he was able capable of dueling.

We don't know how good or bad he was at dueling but nonetheless he dueled.

Originally posted by Thousand
Nihilus was a Sith Lord who had a large degree of Power. It's safe to assume that as a Sith Lord, he didn't just know one technique of the force. He SHOWED us that he could use one technique, yes ... He also had the ability to force push and he was able capable of dueling.

We don't know how good or bad he was at dueling but nonetheless he dueled.

No ones denying the fact he has more than one power technique

and we don't have anything on his dueling skills. But from what have seen from the guy he doesnt seem to be the type to practice at all. All he wants to do is feed is hunger. Revan has been in more duels (and i know about the gameplay not canon stuff so dont bother) but he still won duels. which gives us a small idea that he had experience and obviously some degree of skill and since nihilus was only in 1 known duel it is illogical so say he is really good or a physical beast as you once said thousand.

He has many techniques but he has only one which makes him seem uber powerful.

He used one that makes him seem uber powerful. The other force maneuvers he can utilize are either extremely powerful or weak. We don't really know.

Regardless, when you have one powerful force offense that can literally eradicate the force ... Who the hell needs other powers?

Originally posted by Thousand
He used one that makes him seem uber powerful. The other force maneuvers he can utilize are either extremely powerful or weak. We don't really know.

Exactly so saying his other force powers (cept his uber tk) is strong is just plain stupid . When we know nothing its like arguing the revan has the force killer thingy or whatever u want to call it we can specultae and make theories and no matter ho wlogical they sound we dont have definite proof.

Originally posted by Darth Hord
Exactly so saying his other force powers (cept his uber tk) is strong is just plain stupid . When we know nothing its like arguing the revan has the force killer thingy or whatever u want to call it we can specultae and make theories and no matter ho wlogical they sound we dont have definite proof.

It's not stupid to assume such a thing. Ad Hominem, BTW. It's safe to assume because one power is strong, the others are. You'd think it would effectively be "stupid" to assume that because one power is strong, the rest are weak.

Originally posted by Thousand
It's not stupid to assume such a thing. Ad Hominem, BTW. It's safe to assume because one power is strong, the others are. You'd think it would effectively be "stupid" to assume that because one power is strong, the rest are weak.
I agree with you but not in all cases, bastila has very powerful BM but can the same be said about her other powers? As far as we have seen, its a no

While i do agree however nihilus has demonstrated quite incredible TK as to lift the ravager which is around the same size as an ISD. But seems that yodas tk and sidious TK eclipse his

What manslayer said, and the bastilla battle meditation was a good example. And maybe i need to clarify for what i said,i mean that i serously doubt that every other force attack he has will be on the same level as his tk and force killer and being that they are te only known attacks we dont even know if he has other great ones.

This is illogical Thousand. You cannot assume that because one power is strong, so are the rest. Character X might have mastered force ability 1, but that in no way means he mastered force ability 2. That's pure hearsay.