Darth Nihilus vs. Darth Revan

Started by Allankles9 pages

Same old saxy. How was your summer? I don't think Nihilus' speech could kill per se, it's simply that in the instance he chose to destroy Katarr he seems to have used telepathic communication (of some kind) to focus his power.

Nihilus didn't fully control his hunger but he was able to focus it at will, as he did with the Exile and apparently with Katarr, as Visas seems to suggest he's "speaking" had something to do with the death of her people and planet.

Wha

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Except there is no canon source stating that Nihilus can control it. There's also no canon source that states he spoke a word to kill a planet, nor that everytime he speaks worlds die. That's visas and that's contradictory to CANON materials, aka storyline.. Sorry
Yes, he can control it, he was able to focus it onto the Exile and only the Exile before the fight. It's stated by Visas in game that he spoke to kill Katar, and I never said everytime he speas worlds die, he is able to control the move. Nik also posted a little part of a short comic showing how Nihilus Force Killed Katar, and it even says he spoke to do it there.

I dont know. When Visas said that Nihilus killed Katarr with a word I always thought it to be hyperbole or something.

Newayz Nik, where did you get that scan, mate. 🙂

The site www.swtimeline.ru

Actually, i found the exact scan and issue from a link on here. The user formerly known as Kadesh/ESB Vader linked to it in an older thread.

http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=172&page=191

Can read the full comic that way.

Damn, they changed the site and I can't read Russian.

Anyone else find it amusing that the Russian website showing SW comic scans is powered by the US navy?

I'm russian, wtf is it that you need. Amusing? No.. Ironic? yes

In that comic was the quote I was talking bout,"My people never saw his face when they struck-but they heard his VOICE". All evidence points to Nihilus speaking to use Force Killer

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Actually, i found the exact scan and issue from a link on here. The user formerly known as Kadesh/ESB Vader linked to it in an older thread.

Can read the full comic that way. [/B]

Ah tnx man! Been looking all over the net for SW Comics to read online.

Nikkolas are u able to get to the other comics in Swtimeline aswell? im having difficulties right now.

Which comics are you trying to get to exactly? The site is rather hard to navigate.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Which comics are you trying to get to exactly? The site is rather hard to navigate.

The tales of the jedi the sith war. Even with the language the way it was,I was able to navigate it but since the new change i cant.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
The site www.swtimeline.ru

Actually, i found the exact scan and issue from a link on here. The user formerly known as Kadesh/ESB Vader linked to it in an older thread.

http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=172&page=191

Can read the full comic that way.

Its manslayer now ty

Hm. i can't find it either.

The site is really gay nowadays. Sorry, Hord.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Hm. i can't find it either.

The site is really gay nowadays. Sorry, Hord.

no problem i probably just look through old threads for it thanx anyway.

Originally posted by Darth Hord
no problem i probably just look through old threads for it thanx anyway.

I found it, mate. But I cant post the link since I have to be more "well known" around these parts first. Ill just instruct you where to go(although you would have to bare with me if I sometimes dont make sense since English is not my first language):

Anyway, in the homepage of the site you can basically see two "boxes" of links on the left side of the site. Go to the bottom one and click the second link from the top. This will take you to some of the SW comics(including the Tales of the Jedi). Now, the TOTJ series are basically the ones at the top of that list. Click on one of that links and it will show you either a Summary or a Review of it. If you scroll down a little bit, you'll see 3 links that direct you the pages itself. The top link is the ones you can read online, the 2 links below is if you want to download it.

Comprende? If your still having trouble let me know. Until then, Id like to go back to my reading and educate myself in everything SW.🙂

thanx bro now i know to navigate the site again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Darth Nihilus vs. Darth Revan

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Nihilus, the man who kills all things in his presence and who will destroy the galaxy, against a guy who never even showed 1/3 of his foe's power.

Just curious, where did you get your "1/3" figure from?

Re: Re: Darth Nihilus vs. Darth Revan

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Just curious, where did you get your "1/3" figure from?

He seems to underestimate Revan a lot.

As a Dark Lord:

He seems to forget that as a DLOTS, Revan have accomplished more then Nihilus.

- Revan managed to create a vast Sith Empire and effectively manage it and this is one of the biggest feats that a Sith Lord can accomplish.

- Revan also managed to successfully control the mighty Star Forge (which itself is like a Giant Leech) and that too with limited contact.

- Revan also learned several devastating Sith techniques during his visits to Malachor and Korriban. Darth Bane already have pointed this out.

- Revan was strong in the Force and a skilled warrior and knew how to deal with different kinds of threats.

- His knowledge and wisdom was enough to impress a great Sith Lord aka Darth Bane and through his teachings, Darth Bane got the inspiration of the Rule of Two. Hence Revan's legacy as a DLOTS played a vital role in the up-lifting of the Sith once again in the galaxy after so many years.

As a Jedi:

- As a Jedi, Revan managed to destroy the very same Empire that he created to rule the galaxy. His amazing performance on the Star Forge is what actually turned the tide in the Jedi Civil War or else the Republic was doomed. Hence he was declared to be a prodigy by a famous Jedi Master of his age.

- Kriea herself praised Revan's skill and power and we already know that what she said about him.

- Most of the high-profile people who have met Revan, have praised his skill and power, including a famous ancient DLOTS Ajunta Pall.

- Additionally Revan have defeated and killed several high-profile people in his life who have caused great troubles in the galaxy. This alone shows that how skilled he was.

- He was also a tactical genius of his age. He could accomplish through combination of his very intelligent mind and the Force, the tasks that were impossible to accomplish otherwise. It was mainly due to his actions that the Republic managed to defeat the Mandalorians in the war. Canderous made this very clear.

So, Shin_Nikkolas! It is always wise to think twice before jumping on a conclusion.

Regarding Revan vs Nihilus fight:

In case of fight against Nihilus, Revan needs to hit first and ask question later. He knows some techniques that will help him to decimate Nihilus early on. Though similar is the case of Nihilus because he also knows a technique that can help him to defeat Revan, if he launches the first attack.

So this is more like a 50/50 win situation for both people mentioned here.

As far as we know Revan has no instant-kill techniques that could decimate Nihilus in a heart beat, if anything force techniques aren't the best way to handle Nihilus, after all he's basically a force leeching entity.

The only known combat effective technique Revan has used was a force storm he used on a few non-force sensitive Rakata, certainly not potent enough, by this example, to instant-kill a powerful force user like Nihilus. The rest of his known force techniques are all rituals e.g. the thought bomb: obviously not combat effective.

The rest of what you listed are classified under achievements and are not a direct indication of dueling prowess. The happenings of the star forge outside of dueling Bastila and Malak are non-canon. Think about it for a second; Revan can have two party members, use grenades etc etc.

Besides it wouldn't be feasible to merely fight your way through possibly hundreds of Jedi, even if they are weak.

Nihilus is certainly the favourite in this duel.

Originally posted by Allankles
As far as we know Revan has no instant-kill techniques that could decimate Nihilus in a heart beat, if anything force techniques aren't the best way to handle Nihilus, after all he's basically a force leeching entity.

He does have them. One such is the "Force Lightning Storm." If Nihilus gets caught in the FLS, he will be decimated. Not only he but most people will get decimated by a FLS. Force Storms are one of the deadliest Dark Side powers ever known.

Originally posted by Allankles
The only known combat effective technique Revan has used was a force storm he used on a few non-force sensitive Rakata, certainly not potent enough, by this example, to instant-kill a powerful force user like Nihilus.

You are using just one example.

Darth Bane also used an FLS to destroy a huge chunk of land. It is true that he did this along with some other people but they combined their power to form a huge FLS, which spread with great intensity causing massive devastation. Darth Sexy can elaborate more on this.

Revan was a master practitioner of Force Lightning and also mastered FLS.

Remember that Sidious managed to over-power Yoda in ROTS with just his Force Lightning, which was no where equal in intensity to an FLS. An FLS is far more dangerous.

Now Nihilus cannot defend against an FLS.

Originally posted by Allankles
The rest of his known force techniques are all rituals e.g. the thought bomb: obviously not combat effective.

Many techniques are unknown. This is the problem.

Drew K needs to elaborate more on Revan's knowledge.

Originally posted by Allankles
The rest of what you listed are classified under achievements and are not a direct indication of dueling prowess.

And you forgot that he was engaged in a war in which confrontations are bound to take place.

He was not sitting in a comfortable chair drinking martini during the Mandalorian Wars.

Originally posted by Allankles
The happenings of the star forge outside of dueling Bastila and Malak are non-canon. Think about it for a second; Revan can have two party members, use grenades etc etc.

Yes! But two party members themselves stood no chance in the Star Forge. Most of the work was still done by Revan. It is time to acknowledge this fact and move on.

Originally posted by Allankles
Besides it wouldn't be feasible to merely fight your way through possibly hundreds of Jedi, even if they are weak.

Very powerful people can do amazing feats, when they have strong will and determination. You seem to forget this.

Originally posted by Allankles
Nihilus is certainly the favourite in this duel.

Your favourite is the more correct word.