Namor, The Sub-Mariner vs Wolverine

Started by jinzin163 pages
Originally posted by snoopdogg
To be fair though I don't think it's safe to assume everytime Logan does not go for the throat to say he's not giving a effort. Namor wasn't exactly in fight mode when Logan stabbed him. He was helping him up.

Agreed.

Originally posted by jinzin
So Namor can't be budged by a Wolverine punch?
Even though Wolverine can lift some 2 tons?

and Namor weighs somewhere between 200 and 230 pounds?

🤨

Two tons? 😂

Anyone else miss older comic writers , the comic writers who actually didn't have they're character doing feats etc when they are not that powerful or tough.

Wolverine is just not a good character since his old X-Men days. It amazes me that he has any fans anymore, apart from my 12 year old that is. Ah wonders never cease.

Anyway in comics weight doesn't matter, because saying that Spiderman should be able to send Hulk flying, but he doesn't move. Namor has gone toe to toe with Hulk and even beaten him.

Spiderman is far stronger that Wolverine and busted all his hands up on Hulk punching him, why should Wolverine be able to effect Namor with punches if he gets punched and hit by Thors hammer regularly?

The only redeemable thing about that punch is Namor just been stabbed and Namor has been moved slightly when his head went forward when DD swung from building and double kicked him in it.

Other wise Wolverine shouldn't be doing anything. 😂

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Don't even get me started on the Civil war fight.

Wolverine shouldn't have punched him, but you can see it had no effect which was good. They Namor uppercuts him, why isn't he in another country or something? The guy knocked out Hulk why should Wolverine be on the floor in front of him and AWAKE after that?

Then he elbows him in the head, another shot that should be unconscious but isn't, he just gets back up.

When Wolverine kicked him I was like WTF, that shouldn't have happened but oh well.

Don't even start by saying Wolverine should be conscious after all of his blows, if he can take Hulks punches non stop, (which he shouldn't, any fan with all a brain should realise) then why was he uncious from one punch to the back of the head.

It changes all the time with Wolverine, thats why his modern day feats, well ones like that should be ignored because its absolutely bullshit.

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Originally posted by Creshosk
By that reasoning we could say the same of the reverse, since Namor's first shot was a cheap shot while Wolverine was just trying to scare him off.

"I'm an ally! I'm an ally!" *suckerpunch* "Damn it Logan I'm your ally!"

Sticking 6 claws to the side of the head isn't going to get you a punch from Namor? Have you ever read anything on Namor before???? 🤨

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Originally posted by TheTick
Sticking 6 claws to the side of the head isn't going to get you a punch from Namor? Have you ever read anything on Namor before???? 🤨

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Oh nice, the old, I don't agree with you so you obviously don't know what you're talking about so you obviously haven't read the material ad hominem attack. 🙄 He comes in spouting off that he's an ally. Wolverine was posturing trying to scare him off which is pretty obvious from him not swinging first, but edging in to make Namor feel uncomfortable.

And then wham, Namor punches him and wolverine was obviously not expecting it.

So Wolverine is fast enough to stick a claw into a gun to stop a bullet shooting him, but he isn't fast enough to see a punch coming from Namor?

Work that out genius.

Originally posted by TheTick
So Wolverine is fast enough to stick a claw into a gun to stop a bullet shooting him, but he isn't fast enough to see a punch coming from Namor?

Work that out genius.

You know what I mean? 🙄 Furthermore why wouldnt wolverine expect a punch from Namor. Cant Wolverine see how desperate he is to talk to Xavier? Havnet they had beef in the past? So its highly unlikely that wolverine wasnt expecting to be punched.

I think that Wolverine, if he was really well wrote, would win.

6/10

But hey. Marvel don't want to kill the Sub-Mariner, and that's well like that. But in reality, with all they have, Wolverine would win, mainly because of the claws that can kill in one shot Namor. Namor have no answer to that, when Wolverine have the HF to answer the Prince's blows.

Originally posted by Alfheim
You know what I mean? 🙄
You didn't say anything. You responded for him but your not him.

I smell bullshit. 😕

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Originally posted by TheTick
You didn't say anything. You responded for him but your not him.

I smell bullshit. 😕

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Spoon!!

Im agreeing with you (its london black slang for I totally agree). Wolverine was acting as a bouncer, bouncers expect to get punched.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
I think that Wolverine, if he was really well wrote, would win.

6/10

But hey. Marvel don't want to kill the Sub-Mariner, and that's well like that. But in reality, with all they have, Wolverine would win, mainly because of the claws that can kill in one shot Namor. Namor have no answer to that, when Wolverine have the HF to answer the Prince's blows.

😆

Your joking?

Namor is faster stronger and almost as good as a fighter. How can he beat Namor 6/10? If anythign hes written to powerful now. 🙄

8/10 for Namor, 2 times if he gets lucky with a good shot.

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Originally posted by Alfheim
Im agreeing with you (its london black slang for I totally agree). Wolverine was acting as a bouncer, bouncers expect to get punched.

Ah I see, I am not from London so didn't understand, I responded when you only had the start. 😛

But yeah Wolverine has no shot against him, hes ridiculously overrated. 🙁

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Originally posted by TheTick
So Wolverine is fast enough to stick a claw into a gun to stop a bullet shooting him, but he isn't fast enough to see a punch coming from Namor?

Work that out genius.

Oh yeah, you're real good..🙄 I bet you think that a person has to be as fast as a bullet to dodge bullets...

If wolverine isn't expecting it, he's obviously not going to see it coming, and if he doesn't see it coming he's not going to be able to dodge. He's not Spider-Man you know. Obviously if he expected trouble he wouldn't have been getting that close with the claws without attacking.

Do you know anything about psychological warfare? Or would you be one of those people who beleive that a person says is what they really can do and think that cell can destroy solar systems?

In the case of sticking his calw in the gun to stop the bullet, he was obviously expecting the person to fire it, otherwise he wouldn't have needed to stick his claw in the barrel. I mean in one case with the gun he'd already been stabbed by the guy who pulled the gun on him. Of course he's expecting trouble.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Oh yeah, you're real good..🙄 I bet you think that a person has to be as fast as a bullet to dodge bullets...

If wolverine isn't expecting it, he's obviously not going to see it coming, and if he doesn't see it coming he's not going to be able to dodge. He's not Spider-Man you know. Obviously if he expected trouble he wouldn't have been getting that close with the claws without attacking.

Do you know anything about psychological warfare? Or would you be one of those people who beleive that a person says is what they really can do and think that cell can destroy solar systems?

In the case of sticking his calw in the gun to stop the bullet, he was obviously expecting the person to fire it, otherwise he wouldn't have needed to stick his claw in the barrel. I mean in one case with the gun he'd already been stabbed by the guy who pulled the gun on him. Of course he's expecting trouble.

*sigh*

Originally posted by Alfheim
Wolverine was acting as a bouncer, bouncers expect to get punched.

Do you think its possible Namor was too fast. Why on earth would Wolverine think Namors just going to walk away? Namor needs to talk to Xaviers for important reasons, you dont think theres a slight possibility that Wolverine might think Namor might just decide to fight him?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Wolverine was acting as a bouncer, bouncers expect to get punched.
Obviously he wasn't expecting to get punched by someone saying they were his ally. If he were expecting him to attack he wouldn't have gotten that close.

Seriously... And since he wasn't expecting it it was a suckerpunch, and since it was a sucker punch clearly the only way for namor to land a shot is with a cheapshot... 🙄 isn't that your reasoning? Or are you going to continue to insist on uphholding your ridiculous double standard of hypocrisy?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Oh yeah, you're real good..🙄 I bet you think that a person has to be as fast as a bullet to dodge bullets...

If wolverine isn't expecting it, he's obviously not going to see it coming, and if he doesn't see it coming he's not going to be able to dodge. He's not Spider-Man you know. Obviously if he expected trouble he wouldn't have been getting that close with the claws without attacking.

Do you know anything about psychological warfare? Or would you be one of those people who beleive that a person says is what they really can do and think that cell can destroy solar systems?

In the case of sticking his calw in the gun to stop the bullet, he was obviously expecting the person to fire it, otherwise he wouldn't have needed to stick his claw in the barrel. I mean in one case with the gun he'd already been stabbed by the guy who pulled the gun on him. Of course he's expecting trouble.

Hes not Spiderman, but fans claim hes as fast. No way around it. Expecting it or not he should be able to dodge it if he can do that to a gun while the bullet had been fired.

You can't prove that I am wrong. If hes as fast as Spiderman or close he should be able to dodge a punch by the slower Namor. (Probably slower)

You don't stick claws to Namors face and not expect it, or is he stupider than we thought.

The only time he got claws in him was when he was helping Wolverine up.

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Originally posted by Creshosk
Obviously he wasn't expecting to get punched by someone saying they were his ally. If he were expecting him to attack he wouldn't have gotten that close.

Seriously... And since he wasn't expecting it it was a suckerpunch, and since it was a sucker punch clearly the only way for namor to land a shot is with a cheapshot... 🙄 isn't that your reasoning? Or are you going to continue to insist on uphholding your ridiculous double standard of hypocrisy?

You also don't stick your claws into your allies face and threaten them do you?

Talk about double standards. 🙄

I don't believe it was a real sucker shot, because he could have evaded it by Wolverines fans reasoning.

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Originally posted by Alfheim
Do you think its possible Namor was too fast.
No.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Why on earth would Wolverine think Namors just going to walk away?
He was expecting Namor to be reasonable and/or be intimidated by having the claws stuck in his face.

Why the hell do YOU think wolverine stuck his claws in Namor's face? It couldn't possibly have been an attempt to intimidate him could it? I mean you never threaten a person to intimidate them. 🙄

Originally posted by Alfheim
Namor needs to talk to Xaviers for important reasons, you dont think theres a slight possibility that Wolverine might think Namor might just decide to fight him?
🙄

Do YOU know anything about psychological warfare? About threats and attempts at intimidation?

Tell me why was Wolverine threatening Namor? Couldn't possibly have been an attempt to get him to back down was it?

And whan you try to intimidate someone you NEVER wexpect them to be intimidated, I mean you just attempt to intimidate people to look badass to the people reading your life in another dimension. 🙄

Do you have any idea how ludicruios that sounds? Attempting to intimidate a person and then not expecting them to be intimidated?

Originally posted by TheTick
Hes not Spiderman, but fans claim hes as fast. No way around it. Expecting it or not he should be able to dodge it if he can do that to a gun while the bullet had been fired.
And when was the last time he did that? Sure he cut a dart out of the air after it had been fired...

Originally posted by TheTick
You can't prove that I am wrong. If hes as fast as Spiderman or close he should be able to dodge a punch by the slower Namor. (Probably slower)
I don't need to prove you wrong you still haven't proven your claims to be right, the burden of proof is on your shoulders. So make with the evidence, back up your claims... Shall I cite you the forum rule that requires it?

Originally posted by TheTick
You don't stick claws to Namors face and not expect it, or is he stupider than we thought.
🙄 "He's not thinking like I am he's obviously stupid, and I'm not for trying to justify something that occured in hindsight." Hindsight is 20/20 you're just making excuses.

Originally posted by TheTick
The only time he got claws in him was when he was helping Wolverine up.
Pull the other one.. no no... seriously, I enjoy being lied to.

Originally posted by Creshosk
No.

He was expecting Namor to be reasonable and/or be intimidated by having the claws stuck in his face.

Why the hell do YOU think wolverine stuck his claws in Namor's face? It couldn't possibly have been an attempt to intimidate him could it? I mean you never threaten a person to intimidate them. 🙄

🙄

Do YOU know anything about psychological warfare? About threats and attempts at intimidation?

Tell me why was Wolverine threatening Namor? Couldn't possibly have been an attempt to get him to back down was it?

And whan you try to intimidate someone you NEVER wexpect them to be intimidated, I mean you just attempt to intimidate people to look badass to the people reading your life in another dimension. 🙄

Do you have any idea how ludicruios that sounds? Attempting to intimidate a person and then not expecting them to be intimidated?

Do you know how ludicrous it sounds for Namor to be intimidated? You sound as stupid as the Civil War fight itself. Why would he listen, if you do that to namor you expect to be punched. 🙄

Any unbiased comic fan can see that.