Namor, The Sub-Mariner vs Wolverine

Originally posted by jinzin
that's part of their described powers.. their powers go hand in hand with the results...

namor having strength doesn't go hand in hand with namor uproots a tree.. 😕

So, having a feat of super-strength cannot be applied to lifting or moving things, otherwise it is a plot device? Powerhouses may only close with an opponent and attack with their bare hands, or in rare cases like Thor, a weapon that is "part of their described powers".

I wonder why it is that Wolverine fans think this way. It's ridiculous. What about telekinetics? Are they allowed to move things? Otherwise, it sort of takes the "kinetic" out of their abilities. Then why not powerhouses as well?

In any case, this is a non-issue. Jinzin is attempting to shift the discussion to the validity of the use of scenery, when such is mandated by the standard engagement rules of this forum:

"In a scenario fight, the contestants in whose city/reality the fight takes place are allowed access to any material resources they usually have there..."

And "any material resources" for a battle in Central Park obviously includes busses and trucks on Columbus Circle, trees in the park, the earth on the ground and the air in the sky. Case closed. 😄

Are Bullseye's cards plot devices?

http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/4356/namorfeat410nf.gif

Bullseye, eat your heart out.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Are Bullseye's cards plot devices?

According to Jinzin's irrelevant definition: yes.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/4356/namorfeat410nf.gif

Bullseye, eat your heart out.

That's a very sturdy seashell.

It was made by the third powerful god in Greek Pantheon.

Yeah, Poseidon doesn't put his mark on just any ole shell. 😉

Yep. 🙂

If Wolverine tries to stab Namor, can't he just do this:

http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorddspidey16pb.gif

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
It was made by the third powerful god in Greek Pantheon.

Is Neptune 3rd? I always though he was 2nd or at least tied for that spot.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Yep. 🙂

If Wolverine tries to stab Namor, can't he just do this:

http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorddspidey16pb.gif

That first panel belongs in the "Characters Getting Owned" thread. 😂

Either below/above Pluto or tied with him...

Originally posted by Melnorme
Actually, the forum is no PIS. CIS isn't generally frowned upon, because it's dependant on the character. And, it's interesting that all your examples are all in in Wolverine's favor (Wolverine can hit Namor; Wolverine can take Namor's blows). You're not exactly appearing to be impartial.

We've also shown that Wolverine can get laid out by dumbells and elk. Is all of that PIS? Should this information merely be discounted in favor of Wolverine?

First off, yes, I did answer him. You simply missed it.

Secondly, it's not clear that he could get through his skull. He'd cut his face pretty badly, but more likely than not, no further damage. For your information, yes, your skull does extend behind your eyeballs. And, yes, bone tissue is much more resilient than skin. For example, he slashed him across the abdomen in one of DarkCrawler's scans, but didn't puncture his lungs, because his attack didn't penetrate his ribs.

the examples are in wolvie's favor? 😕 that's because you're questioning HIS abilities. as for impartiality, you seem to forget that i already stated on multiple occasions that namor wins this the majority. 7-8/10. you seem to be saying he has no chance to even win one fight when based on what we've seen that clearly shouldn't be the case.

laid out be a dumbell? 😑 dd did not ko him with a dumbell. he stunned him then logan was schoolboyed by a fallen body and landed on a sword. no body, no sword, logan is staggered and maybe dd can take him out, maybe not. the elk is cute. so you found 2 inceidents where he was 'ko'd'. got any more? you want consistency, well, find more cases where he was ko'd by these types of attacks. in fact, i defy you to find even 5 more. 3 more. until then, yes, his being ko'd by an elk is pis as it doesn't happen regularly. dd never ko'd him, so no pis there.

of course the bone extends beyond your eyes, but they are not enclosed and his claws could certainly follow the optic nerve to his brain.
his claws apparently cut through abomination's bone. is namor more durable/invulnerable than abomination? close maybe, but i'd give the edge to abom. and that one scan clearly shows that if he has the chance he CAN penetrate namor's body. i don't get why that is a question.

I have lot of pics where Namor dodges things that are faster then Wolverine...or does things that show that he is fast enough to dodge Wolverine.

Is Wolverine hitting him PIS?

again u say there faster but how do u know?
running speeds diffrent then hand spped and reflex speed

I've posted numeours things about Namor's hand speed and reflex speed...

again ur post do not show wolverine can't hit him

I've shown him dodging things that are faster then Wolverine...

Wolverine hitting him - PIS.

again were ur prove those things move faster then wolverines hand speed or reflexes? wolverine has dodged things that are far faster then namor.

I wasn't aware that Wolverine has dodged something that moves with Mach 10...or Mach 32 and above...

Do you have scans? Issues?

I alreayd ****ign gave u issue numebrs earilier in this threa dof wolverine dodgeing lazer and the living lightning.