Originally posted by superchron
Ya, I'm just saying, didn't Light handle pretty much all the TT's including 2 flash's?
I agree, he did but slade have done that same feat and I think that slade wouldnt even last milli seconds against even kid goku that was in regular dragonball series. What if krilling just decides to blow up the entire area that him and doctor light is fighting in, do you think that light will survive.
Originally posted by superchron
Well, if any DBZ character decides to use an energy attack on him, they are pretty much screwed. He literally pulled heat vision out of Superboy
I knew that you was going to use that, so basically youre saying that heatvision equals ki blast. Your also saying that he can survive a city destroying blast (Im not going to use planet destroying because krillin would basically be killing himself.). I havent seen any comics of dr light surviving an atomic bomb, have you.
Originally posted by carver9
Its not the fact that wizard is valid proof its WHO is saying what is being said in the wizard. If you have superman writers stating facts about there characters then whats to down play it. Now I understand if it was coming from a different source but it was coming from the mouth and the writers of superman and infinite crisis which makes it valid proof. IF the writers of goku said that he can destroy a universe, since it is the people who actually write on the character it should be more valid then anything that is said on the forum, the writer>>>>>>>>>>fans.
Actual comic feats>>>>>>>>>>>writer statements.
Of course he can survive it but he can just control/absorb/use all of said energy outputted. For example, Wonder Girl tried to use he lasso(the one that basically electrocutes someone with the energies of a god) Light easily controled the energy and said something like "A god's light, is still light"
You all have different scenes of dragonball. You think that goku lifts roughly 40 tons (which again is your decision) but since I look at dbz and know that ki planets have different gravity, I know that he was lifting a lot more. Then he was on one of the main ki planets, so its no telling what the gravity was on that planet. Hell vegita was born on a planet that possessed 10 times earth gravity. Then vegita and nappa landed on a planet and fought bugs that was knocking entire buildings down with just a minor glimpse of there strength and nappa easily stopped one from punching him with his own strength. I dont think that a 40tonner can knock down building with just one punch.
Another thing, how fast do you have to be to create after images, when you think about that answer then I want you to think about this, goku was doing that since he was 6 and his speed now is >>>>>>>>>>>>>.since then.
Originally posted by Alucard25
Actual comic feats>>>>>>>>>>>writer statements.
But the writer is the ones who make the character. So if you were talking to the writer you tell him that superman moves faster then light, then he tells you, no superman moves only this and this, how are you to tell that person if hes right or wrong.
So if I created a character and said that he only has 4 ton strength and you say, no his strength is 10 tons, your judgement is greater then mines and Im the writer. If that dont sound like an excuse to help out a character.
Originally posted by superchron
Of course he can survive it but he can just control/absorb/use all of said energy outputted. For example, Wonder Girl tried to use he lasso(the one that basically electrocutes someone with the energies of a god) Light easily controled the energy and said something like "A god's light, is still light"
And where are you getting the fact that 1st he can take a ki blast that is totally different from the energy attacks that you are talking about and 2nd that he can take and atomic bomb blast. You do know that characters have limits, it have never been established what kind of limit that doctor light can take since he has never faced someone that shoot close to city destroying or even planet destroying blast.
Originally posted by carver9
But the writer is the ones who make the character. So if you were talking to the writer you tell him that superman moves faster then light, then he tells you, no superman moves only this and this, how are you to tell that person if hes right or wrong.So if I created a character and said that he only has 4 ton strength and you say, no his strength is 10 tons, your judgement is greater then mines and Im the writer. If that dont sound like an excuse to help out a character.
That doesn't work because many different people write for Superman not just one constant writer thats why one writers opinion doesn't mean anything.I mean if Superman had one constant writer showing him in comics as only being able to lift 100,000 tons and having a speed of 2000 mph then yeah I would accept that writers statement as thats what has been shown in the comics but its not,its constantly been showing over the years Superman operates at much higher levels of strength and speed then what that writer thinks he should.
Originally posted by Alucard25
That doesn't work because many different people write for Superman not just one constant writer thats why one writers opinion doesn't mean anything.I mean if Superman had one constant writer showing him in comics as only being able to lift 100,000 tons and having a speed of 2000 mph then yeah I would accept that writers statement as thats what has been shown in the comics but its not,its constantly been showing over the years Superman operates at much higher levels of strength and speed then what that writer thinks he should.
So when I post this scan of many Superman writers saying the same thing about superman would you accept it? Again, scans are put out of context, some people read into things that arent suppose to be read like that. If the writer of infinite crisis says that superman move a certain speed then you all put up a scan that dont have any speed display but have him flying somewhere (which was part of the comic) then thats when I think that a scan is taken out of context. Even during the flash and superman race, it only quoted one speed which was 2000 mps and people say that since he was keeping up with flash and his heat vision that he was going faster than the speed of light. HMMM, sounds like additional things were added if you ask me.
I doubt it but I will wait until I see the scan I just don't put any faith in writers comments if DC and whoever these writers are start limiting Superman to 2000 mph in the comics he appears in then yeah I will accept it but until they do I doubt anyone other than the DBZ fans will accept it.Writers say stupid things Greg Pak said not even Odinforce powered Thor could have stopped WWH and another said Superman Prime could beat anyone but Beyonder I mean writers comments should not be used only on panel feats and on panel feats show Superman is far above 2000 mph.
Originally posted by Alucard25
I doubt it but I will wait until I see the scan I just don't put any faith in writers comments if DC and whoever these writers are start limiting Superman to 2000 mph in the comics he appears in then yeah I will accept it but until they do I doubt anyone other than the DBZ fans will accept it.Writers say stupid things Greg Pak said not even Odinforce powered Thor could have stopped WWH and another said Superman Prime could beat anyone but Beyonder I mean writers comments should not be used only on panel feats and on panel feats show Superman is far above 2000 mph.
Alucard I have a question to ask you, its off the subject. Do you look at bleach, if you do then answer this for me. Do you think that bleach characters are faster then dragonball characters.
Originally posted by Alucard25
I doubt it but I will wait until I see the scan I just don't put any faith in writers comments if DC and whoever these writers are start limiting Superman to 2000 mph in the comics he appears in then yeah I will accept it but until they do I doubt anyone other than the DBZ fans will accept it.Writers say stupid things Greg Pak said not even Odinforce powered Thor could have stopped WWH and another said Superman Prime could beat anyone but Beyonder I mean writers comments should not be used only on panel feats and on panel feats show Superman is far above 2000 mph.
So what you are basically telling me is that if I got a writer from dbz and asked him what is goku main weight that he can lift and he gives you figure. Youre basically not going to accept it.
I can't much watch anime any more a severe light sensitivity keeps me from it I watch it and my eyes hurt and I get migraines.But I used to watch a ton of it I've probably seen over 100 different series which kind of sucks now I can't watch any.But thanks for the recommendation yeah I used to be a huge fan of DBZ I've got it all on VHS and DVD.
Originally posted by Alucard25
I can't much watch anime any more a severe light sensitivity keeps me from it I watch it and my eyes hurt and I get migraines.But I used to watch a ton of it I've probably seen over 100 different series which kind of sucks now I can't watch any.But thanks for the recommendation yeah I used to be a huge fan of DBZ I've got it all on VHS and DVD.
Sorry about the light sensitivity thing, I hope in the future that you'll be able to see the episodes that Im advising you of. Im not going to be able to post that scan tonight because my ex brought my son over tonight and forgot to bring his car seat, so I cant go over my friend house and post the scan. I will try to do it tomorrow.
Originally posted by Combat_GuruLook, I don't care if you find the concept revolting. But quit pulling these ****ing numbers out of your ass. Quit making up numbers man. Are any of these stated in the manga? {Rehtorical question}
Chreshosk, why do you insist that Goku can't fight/react/move at light speed?Do you remember this?
Vegeta was experienced in detecting movement with out a scouter by the time Freeza fired his death beam, 1,000 times is being generous.
BTW, I typed .00014 when it should have been .00041, so I'm going to recalculate once again.
Originally posted by carver9That's the way you look to everyone else when you use non-canon material man.
Creshok that was also so stupid of you to put up post about tullitubes and pokemon, you could have done a lot better then that. That looked kind of desperate on your part.
Is it stupid to have a pokemon beat a DBZ character? YES! That's the point. In a NON-CANON source a pokemon beat a DBZ character. in a NON-CANON source a whole boat load of people beat Super Buu, including Freeza and Captain America.
but that's the point, its stupid, but its non-canon. Just like the material you keep trying to use is NON-CANON.
but if your NON-CANON is vialble evidence then so to is mine. In which case, no mater how stupid it seems, Cell and Super Buu were both beaten by jigglypuff. Don't like it? Then quit doing it.
Originally posted by GalvaclawOh you are the last person whom has ANY room to say that shit.
Ahh see your asking for feats now. I thought only interviews mattered. Busiek was asked weather Superman could move the Earth. He reply that if it ever came up in a story he was writing Superman would be able able to do it.So interviews only help when they support your dubious theories?
YOU use non-canon material then say that others can't. YOU are the one whom demands evidence but offers none. YOU are the one that accepts claims that lack evidence from YOUR side, but deny claims that have evidence fro mthe other side.
YOU are a hypocrite, YOU are a troll, YOU are a sock.
Originally posted by carver9You sure as hell wouldn't.
So what you are basically telling me is that if I got a writer from dbz and asked him what is goku main weight that he can lift and he gives you figure. Youre basically not going to accept it.
