Superman vs Goku (Official Thread)

V^2 =u^2 + 2as

V =0 u = ? a = 9.8 s = lets say 1.5m

V^2 = 2 x 9.8 x 1.5

V = 5.4 ms

V= u + at

5.4 = 9.8

So it'll fall to the ground in 0.55 seconds.

Which means it'll have to travel at 581,000 feet per second to travel 320,000 feet.

If he can't dodge Freeza's beam from 20 feet away, how fast does the beam have to travel?

Thanks. We could make a calculating super genius team, you'll be the calculator/super genius, and I'll be the guy who receives the credit and money.😄 JK

I'm going to assume the beam travels 20 times as fast as Goku, if Goku can travel twice as far as the rubble in half the time, then he can travel 4 times faster than the rubble was in the first 5 seconds, thats 2,324,000 feet per second, so the beam travels at 46,480,000 feet per second, if you look at the four beams and Goku's after images in Vo. 11, PG 87, there are four beams coming at Goku, he ducks under the first one, and stands back up, and then moves to the right of the second one, which was 2 feet to the right of the first one, and a little bit higher, (NOTE, Goku's dodging them like this to make it known that Freeza no longer has control over the fight.) and then he moves to the left of the third one, which was about 5 feet to the left of the second, and then he moves to the left of the fourth one, which was in between the first and the third.

hahahhaha 40 tons thats like wolvorine

Originally posted by carver9
Later on tonight I got a scan that Im going to put up on every superman battle thread. I dont have a scanner so a friend of mines is going to put it up for me. IT has superman stats that was established since infinity crisis that starred superboy prime. The writers that base these stats are Mark waid which is a superman writer, greg rucka, which is a superman writer, rucka, which is a supergirl writer, Kurt busiek, who is also a superman writer. They put up two posting of both current superman and earth-2 superman.

Its simply going to say (typing word for word).

Earth2-superman

Real name
Kal-l

Height
6'2

Weight
222 pounds

Years active
60

able to fly
Yes

Strength
70,000 tons maximum

Speed
1200 miles per second maximum

Current Dcu superman

Real name
kal-el

Height
6'3

Weight
235 pounds

Years active
12

Able to fly
Yes

Strength
100,000-plus tons

Speed
2000 miles per second

It will be posted tonight around 8 eastern. These are stats based off of superman writer, they also say things about superboy prime in here also if you all would like for me to post that also.

posting untruths about any character on kmc is considered trolling, and is a bannable offence, which you really don't need right now...

also? busiek writes one of the most pre-crisis-esque supermans that has ever been written post crisis...

rucka hasnt written superman in how long? and what, waid did it in brave and bold?

please.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
hahahhaha 40 tons thats like wolvorine

As for Gokou why do people always say since it's a Kai planet it automatically makes it heavier. The opposite could also be true. It could be 40 tons in that gravity but take it to Earth and it could be ten times lighter. Why would South Kai even use the word 40 tons and not mean in that gravity anyway.

Originally posted by Kento
Since when is Wolverine able to lift 40 tons?

As for Gokou why do people always say since it's a Kai planet it automatically makes it heavier. The opposite could also be true. It could be 40 tons in that gravity but take it to Earth and it could be ten times lighter. Why would South Kai even use the word 40 tons and not mean in that gravity anyway.

40 tons is like, luke cage, or emma frost...

Originally posted by xJLxKing
40 Tons is 40 Tons. As for my reference to Wolverine it was a joke. If its true( and it is) that Goku can pick up 40 Tons then it pretty much means he can't beat Superman in any way. We know Superman has more strenght, speed and Durability!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Kento
Since when is Wolverine able to lift 40 tons?

As for Gokou why do people always say since it's a Kai planet it automatically makes it heavier. The opposite could also be true. It could be 40 tons in that gravity but take it to Earth and it could be ten times lighter. Why would South Kai even use the word 40 tons and not mean in that gravity anyway.

I already admitted that Goku's punches couldn't hurt Superman.

BUT I also said that Goku wasn't really strength training after the Freeza saga, he was controlling and mastering Super Saiyan, because Cell was completely deferent from Superman, Cell was no where near as invulnerable, and could be harmed by Chi, so Goku didn't need to bulk up, he needed the ability to manipulate more powerful Chi. SSJ2 made Goku a LOT faster, but strength wasn't really increased that much.

Now if Goku had the same amount of prep to fight Superman, than he would do the opposite, he would bulk up, practice holding his breathe and strengthening his lungs (Encase of a space fight), going up GRADES in Super Saiyan (Higher than USSJ), and doing some serious strength training.

So given prep, Goku would pulverize Superman, just beat him to a pulp.

Originally posted by Kento
Since when is Wolverine able to lift 40 tons?

As for Gokou why do people always say since it's a Kai planet it automatically makes it heavier. The opposite could also be true. It could be 40 tons in that gravity but take it to Earth and it could be ten times lighter. Why would South Kai even use the word 40 tons and not mean in that gravity anyway.

It'd be like me suddenly telling people that I weigh 19 pounds. They'd look at me like I'm nuts. But I do weigh 19 pounds! On the moon...

40 tons in 10 times earth's gravity would become 4 tons on Earth. So esentially he was struggling with 4 tons in base form.

Not really because while Gokou is training trying to get stronger...Superman is getting stronger just by getting a suntan even quicker than Gokou. The longer Gokou puts off the fight the stronger Superman gets. And so you admit Gokou can't beat Superman unless he has time to train for him and know who he is?

Goku trains in the hyperbolic time chamber to try and amp his lungs and train his strength. Superman sits in the heart of the sun. Goku sweats heavily straining to become better. Superman comes closer to becoming the golden Superman prime by sitting there.

Yeah this still doesn't look very good for Goku.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Goku trains in the hyperbolic time chamber to try and amp his lungs and train his strength. Superman sits in the heart of the sun. Goku sweats heavily straining to become better. Superman comes closer to becoming the golden Superman prime by sitting there.

Yeah this still doesn't look very good for Goku.

You forget that because Goku has the hyperbolic time chamber, Superman has a day, and Goku has a year. Besides, Goku can take a partner, and what ever equipment he wants, add a capsule that pops into a gravity chamber, and Supes is a dead man.

Superman's screwed.

Given prep Superman could simply take a swim in the Sun and beat Goku even worse.

Yea...I think just sitting in Hawaii or something working on a tan would work well also. Not to mention...Gokou would have to worry about aging and Superman..doesn't.

Can Gokou even go into the Spirit and Time Room anymore? I thought you could only do it so many times. Or am I just thinking a dub line?

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
You forget that because Goku has the hyperbolic time chamber, Superman has a day, and Goku has a year.

Superman's screwed.

Originally posted by Kento
Yea...I think just sitting in Hawaii or something working on a tan would work well also. Not to mention...Gokou would have to worry about aging and Superman..doesn't.

Can Gokou even go into the Spirit and Time Room anymore? I thought you could only do it so many times. Or am I just thinking a dub line?

Your not thinking of any line, there are only so many times you can wish for the same thing with Shenron, once, but the Hyperbolic time chamber is free 24/7. And so are gravity camber capsules.

Oh, and with Gohan as a spotter, Goku can do what ever he wants, he CAN use a gravity chamber because there is enough room to accelerate to...God knows how many G's.

How long did he spend in the Sun in OWAW,I know it wasn't long just not for sure the exact time.

Originally posted by Kento
Yea...I think just sitting in Hawaii or something working on a tan would work well also. Not to mention...Gokou would have to worry about aging and Superman..doesn't.

Can Gokou even go into the Spirit and Time Room anymore? I thought you could only do it so many times. Or am I just thinking a dub line?

Superman annihilates Goku badly enough without prep.With prep he could just as easily take a nap in the sun, or simply put Goku in the PZ.

Couldnt Supes just destroy all the atmosphere in the fighting zone and suffocate Goku, or just drain all the air and collapse goku's lungs?

According to GT it was. Course GT has problems remembering things like Androids don't have ki to feel, and that the movies don't take place.

And I could have sworn that there was a limit or something about the Spirit and Time Room.