Superman vs Goku (Official Thread)

Started by Combat_Guru135 pages

I want to see scans of all of those so I know for sure.

And every other unrealistic feat of Current Superman.

I know they are in the Superman respect thread. I have a digital camera that I could probably use to upload pictures of the Lobo and Moon size ship thing but you'd have to wait until tomorrow morning because I'm only on my computer during the mornings if you don't want to look through the respect thread. At night I'm on my Nintendo.

Originally posted by Kento
I know they are in the Superman respect thread. I have a digital camera that I could probably use to upload pictures of the Lobo and Moon size ship thing but you'd have to wait until tomorrow morning because I'm only on my computer during the mornings if you don't want to look through the respect thread. At night I'm on my Nintendo.

May I have a link to this respect thread?

I can't copy and paste links. But really just click on the comic book forums then go to the Comic Book Respect forum. It's like two slots below the Superman Forums and his respect thread should be on the front page. But it's huge.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Prep is very allowed on KMC Forums.
Prep time
Neither side receives any notable prep time before the starting bell unless the thread starter specifies it. Neither side may take any offensive or defensive actions before the starting bell. Planning is allowed and powers that are automatic or 'always on' can be up, but actions such as setting up forcefields, taking flight, or consciously activating powers is not. For example, Batman cannot shove together an 'anti-Avengers ray' before the fight.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
If Goku hadn't fought some one with Cell's powers, than he would be able to beat Superman.
What a ridiculous load of horse pucky.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Goku dropped hurting bombs for more evasive powers, this fight wouldn't be fair with no prep, thats why I used movie Superman in the first place, whom Super Saiyan Goku destroys.
Thus breaking more rules... th whole "non-canon" rule.

Originally posted by Creshosk
What a ridiculous load of horse pucky.

Thus breaking more rules... th whole "non-canon" rule.

We've already been through all of that, Creshosk, theres no more need to...never mind.

Back on topic, those feats put Superman out of the league of Super Saiyan 1 2 and 3 in pure strength but not USSJ. Trunks didn't stay USSJ long enough, if you want to know how durable a USSJ really is, look mat Broly, no USSJ ever used any strength feats, but it was stated how strong they were, Goku can do both USSJ and SSJ3 while fighting Superman, I don't think Superman, with all of his feats, can beat that combo.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
We've already been through all of that, Creshosk, theres no more need to...never mind.

Back on topic, those feats put Superman out of the league of Super Saiyan 1 2 and 3 in pure strength but not USSJ. Trunks didn't stay USSJ long enough, if you want to know how durable a USSJ really is, look mat Broly, no USSJ ever used any strength feats, but it was stated how strong they were, Goku can do both USSJ and SSJ3 while fighting Superman, I don't think Superman, with all of his feats, can beat that combo.

Gokou can't handle SSJ3 regular how in the heck is he suppose to even try to amp like USSJ. And Broli isn't USSJ. And USSJ makes a person slower. And USSJ made Trunks strong...to bad that never helped him at all in his fight. He got to slow. And Superman has strength and speed DB characters have nothing on him in either.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
We've already been through all of that, Creshosk, theres no more need to...never mind.

Back on topic, those feats put Superman out of the league of Super Saiyan 1 2 and 3 in pure strength but not USSJ. Trunks didn't stay USSJ long enough, if you want to know how durable a USSJ really is, look mat Broly,

Look at a non-canon character? Did you see where I went over the importance of using canon material or do you really want Jigglypuff to beat Cell and for Superbuu to get his ass kicked by just about every fighting character under the sun?

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
no USSJ ever used any strength feats, but it was stated how strong they were, Goku can do both USSJ and SSJ3 while fighting Superman,
Prove it. Show us where he was both ssj3 AND USSJ at the same time

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
I don't think Superman, with all of his feats, can beat that combo.
Good thing that that combo is nothing more than a fanboy's wetdream... its about as canon as Jigglypuff beaiting the snot out of Cell.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Look at a non-canon character? Did you see where I went over the importance of using canon material or do you really want Jigglypuff to beat Cell and for Superbuu to get his ass kicked by just about every fighting character under the sun?

Prove it. Show us where he was both ssj3 AND USSJ at the same time

Good thing that that combo is nothing more than a fanboy's wetdream... its about as canon as Jigglypuff beaiting the snot out of Cell.

Eh it could be possible to have a USSJ form of SSJ3. It's just not something Gokou would ever do or use since he can't exactly go all out in SSJ3 as it is and he already knows that form sucks as it is. It's just an amp on physical strength using ki it seems like anyway.

I don't mean both of them at the same time, I mean he can switch off to fit the needs of the battle.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
I don't mean both of them at the same time, I mean he can switch off to fit the needs of the battle.
What good would getting slower do? Besides one would imagine SSJ3 would be stronger than USSJ.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
I want to see scans of all of those so I know for sure.

And every other unrealistic feat of Current Superman.

Unrealistic feats? You mean like your claims of Goku training to be able to hold a blackhole in his hands?

I'd like to know how he's going to train to beable to hold a theorized infinite mass...

Certaily you know about the theory of reletivity... E=MC^2... blackholes can pull in even light hence them being black holes... Simple stuff really.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
May I have a link to this respect thread?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t371890.html

Originally posted by Kento
Gokou can't handle SSJ3 regular how in the heck is he suppose to even try to amp like USSJ. And Broli isn't USSJ. And USSJ makes a person slower. And USSJ made Trunks strong...to bad that never helped him at all in his fight. He got to slow. And Superman has strength and speed DB characters have nothing on him in either.

What speed?

Travel speed or fighting speed that both slow/fast enemies can hit supes.

Originally posted by nij-ayias
What speed?

Travel speed or fighting speed that [B]both slow/fast enemies can hit supes. [/B]

Your ignornace of the rules of both the forum and logic are rather amusing.

No Mentioning Events of PIS
Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don't use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than three panels, or Toy Man as a threat to Superman.

But with a name like Saiya-jin, even spelled backwards, it should come as no surprise that you're probably just a DBZ fanboy anyway who'll do anything they can to get Goku a win that he cannot possibly acheive through valid reasoning or evidence.

question, if we gave goku:
best feats from the anime and movies
3 sensu beans
and his power poll (more durable than he is I would say)

would the fight be any closer? ( I know the anime and movies arent canon but hust to make this more fun)

No, the fact is Supes is superior to every version of Goku, in every way(save fighting skills)

Originally posted by Creshosk
But with a name like Saiya-jin, even spelled backwards, it should come as no surprise that you're probably just a DBZ fanboy anyway who'll do anything they can to get Goku a win that he cannot possibly acheive through valid reasoning or evidence.

Except all of his deferent transformations, the ability to grow stronger to no extent, and will to keep going at it to the point where you Supes Fanboys consider him psychotic, or stupid, but the truth is, he can be as tough as he needs to be. Supes is pissed off, Goku is calm and evasive, calm and evasive in combat>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>blinded by rage in combat.

You Supes fanboys gotta get your last click don't you....

😠

Current Superman Strength/Durability>>>>USSJ Strength/Durability
SSJ3>>>>>>Current Superman in reaction speed

Except, Goku has both, and Superman is stuck with one physical body, it might be tough, but not that tough.

Valid reasoning is on my side.

Your ignornace of the rules of both the forum and logic are rather amusing.

But Superman does get hit by fast and slow enemies, A LOT.

PLEASE post a scan that puts current Superman at SSJ3 level in terms of bursts of speed, speed with out having to accelerate (Going to France and back in two seconds is hardly a comparison to SSJ3 Goku in speed.), combat speed, super reactions, agility ect.

I have yet to find one in your respect thread.

Goku FTW.

SSJ 3 Goku isn't faster than Superman merely because you say he is. You need some feats for SSJ 3 Goku.

He's certainly not much faster than SSJ 2 Goku. Afterall he didn't seem to gain any speed advantage over Buu when he transformed.

Your need to have Superman feats with out acceleration is odd too. Without acceleration he would be standing still. Goku accelerates when he moves, I do to.

Superman has proved he can react to the enviroment around him while moving at lightspeed. He can percieve things that are moving at faster than the speed of light.

SSJ 3 Goku isn't faster than Superman merely because you say he is. You need some feats for SSJ 3 Goku.

He's certainly not much faster than SSJ 2 Goku. Afterall he didn't seem to gain any speed advantage over Buu when he transformed.

Your need to have Superman feats with out acceleration is odd too. Without acceleration he would be standing still. Goku accelerates when he moves, I do to.

Superman has proved he can react to the enviroment around him while moving at lightspeed. He can percieve things that are moving at faster than the speed of light.