Superman vs Goku (Official Thread)

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Originally posted by Galvaclaw
SSJ 3 Goku isn't faster than Superman merely because you say he is. You need some feats for SSJ 3 Goku.

He's certainly not much faster than SSJ 2 Goku. Afterall he didn't seem to gain any speed advantage over Buu when he transformed.

Your need to have Superman feats with out acceleration is odd too. Without acceleration he would be standing still. Goku accelerates when he moves, I do to.

Superman has proved he can react to the enviroment around him while moving at lightspeed. He can percieve things that are moving at faster than the speed of light.

SSJ3 Goku>>>SSJ2 Goku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MSSJ Goku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>First SSJ transformation>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Goku moving at 4/175 the speed of light.

SSJ3 Goku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Light.

There is a deference between taking 6 or 7 seconds to accelerate in a straight line then taking 1 or 2 milli-seconds to accelerate to around light speed, while turning, dodging and standing up.

Further more, what does Superman have to dodge in space if he's going in a straight line?????

If you pointed a 4 foot round laser that never disapates to the sky, then I bet it wouldn't hit anything for trillions of years.

You have a moot point my friend.

SSJ3 Goku makes Superman angry by dodging his punches and mocking him, waits until he has time, and then turns into regular SSJ, then into a USSJ, and then gets a few cheap shots on the disparate Man of Steel, bloodying him up a bit, and then reverts back to SSJ, and then to SSJ3, and waits till Superman leaves himself open, for a nice Kam-you know surprise, blasting into the sun, making him more angry and more powerful, so he can do it all over again.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Except all of his deferent transformations, the ability to grow stronger to no extent,
No limits fallacy.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
and will to keep going at it to the point where you Supes Fanboys
Back to being the common gutter troll are you? And here I thought we were making progress.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
consider him psychotic, or stupid, but the truth is, he can be as tough as he needs to be.[/qupte] No limits fallacy

[QUOTE=10420954]Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Supes is pissed off, Goku is calm and evasive, calm and evasive in combat>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>blinded by rage in combat.

Breaking the rules again I see... Anything you can to get Goku a win he doesn't deserve.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
You Supes fanboys gotta get your last click don't you....
We're the fanboys? This coming from a person who makes uop shit to get their guy to win when the evidence is not in their favor? Whom constantly breaks the rules?

Clearly you don't understand what a fanboy is. Go look in the mirror, then you can see what a fanboy looks like.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
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Current Superman Strength/Durability>>>>USSJ Strength/Durability
SSJ3>>>>>>Current Superman in reaction speed

Superman can travel at Superliminol velocities. You ever notice how he doesn't blindly plow into things?

What would happen if you traveled at light speed but had regular human reactions? Or even Hypervelocity reactions?

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Except, Goku has both, and Superman is stuck with one physical body, it might be tough, but not that tough.
Tough enough to endure a double black hole. Touch enough to absorb enough energy to wipe out a galaxy.

Tougher than anything Goku can put out.. and please.. enough of your hyperbolic no limits fallacy. It's illogical and an invalid argument.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Valid reasoning is on my side.
Wishful thinking fallacy. Valid rasoning is NOT on your side. You have no evidence, you are frequently wrong with your numbers, you commit numerous fallacies, you make up information that does not exist.

There is nothing valid about your arguments.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
But Superman does get hit by fast and slow enemies, A LOT.
And again, you break the forum rules. Did you not read what I posted? Are you incappable?

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
PLEASE post a scan that puts current Superman at SSJ3 level in terms of bursts of speed, speed with out having to accelerate (Going to France and back in two seconds is hardly a comparison to SSJ3 Goku in speed.), combat speed, super reactions, agility ect.
SLothful induction and begging the question fallacy. Superman traveld across the galaxy and manuvered into a complex structure within seconds. Let alone traveling from the sun to the EArth within seconds. What has Goku done that puts him on even this level of speed? Taking several minutes to travel to another place on the globe?

Please... Nothing vlaid about your arguments there.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
I have yet to find one in your respect thread.
I very much doubt you are comprehensively reading that, as you cannot seem to be able to comprehnd the rules of the forum.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Goku FTW.
Wishful thinking fallacy and slothful induction, supressed evidence fallacy.

Nothing valid about you.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
SSJ3 Goku>>>SSJ2 Goku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MSSJ Goku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>First SSJ transformation>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Goku moving at 4/175 the speed of light.

SSJ3 Goku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Light.

You wish. Got any proof of theis fanboy speculation?

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
There is a deference between taking 6 or 7 seconds to accelerate in a straight line then taking 1 or 2 milli-seconds to accelerate to around light speed, while turning, dodging and standing up.
And what does this gibberish have to do with anything?

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Further more, what does Superman have to dodge in space if he's going in a straight line?????
I see you fail at reading comprehension... though this is also the slouthful induction fallacy as well as supressed evidence fallacy.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
If you pointed a 4 foot round laser that never disapates to the sky, then I bet it wouldn't hit anything for trillions of years.
YOu're not very bright so its natural for you to think this.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
You have a moot point my friend.
Hypocrisy at its finest.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
SSJ3 Goku makes Superman angry by dodging his punches and mocking him, waits until he has time, and then turns into regular SSJ, then into a USSJ, and then gets a few cheap shots on the disparate Man of Steel, bloodying him up a bit, and then reverts back to SSJ, and then to SSJ3, and waits till Superman leaves himself open, for a nice Kam-you know surprise, blasting into the sun, making him more angry and more powerful, so he can do it all over again.
You know what? You're reported for trolling again. Spreading false information like this about characters is trolling.

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Originally posted by Creshosk
[B]You wish. Got any proof of theis fanboy speculation?

Ah, yeah, the whole Manga.

And what does this gibberish have to do with anything?

Why are you ignoring the most important argument??? Maybe because it's right 😱

I see you fail at reading comprehension... though this is also the slouthful induction fallacy as well as supressed evidence fallacy.

Why don't you prove that Superman can move around in a small area at around light speed.

YOu're not very bright so its natural for you to think this.

I'm not bright, I'm smart.

Hypocrisy at its finest.

WTF???

You know what? You're reported for trolling again. Spreading false information like this about characters is trolling.

Gee, another report, if this keeps up you might get banned.

I'm counting down the reports. So far we have 2,000,000,000,000,000,000 and a couple more.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Ah, yeah, the whole Manga.
Wrong try again. Burden of proof is on you to prove your claims.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Why are you ignoring the most important argument??? Maybe because it's right 😱
Appeal to motive fallacy. Again. Answer the question.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Why don't you prove that Superman can move around in a small area at around light speed.
Suprressed evidence fallacy.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
I'm not bright,
Correct.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
I'm smart.
Wishful thinking fallacy. Supressed evidence fallacy.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
WTF???
I thought you just said you were smart? Well, you just disproved that theory.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Gee, another report, if this keeps up you might get banned.
I'm not the one that's trolling. So what would I be banned for?

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
I'm counting down the reports. So far we have 2,000,000,000,000,000,000 and a couple more.
Which means either this thread will get closed or the mods will do their job and get rid of the troll(you).

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Goku *He’s an animal, if I let him get a single punch, I’ll be dead, or end up some where in some other galaxy…dead!*

Superman “Ragh!!”

Goku *At SSJ3 I can dodge about every punch he makes* “Hey, why don’t you hit me?”

Superman “This ends, I’m gonna hurt you, bad!”

Goku “If you can hit me” *Time to bluff* “But if you do, it won’t hurt.”

Goku *Now’s my chance, time for USSJ, to bloody him up a bit.*

Superman “Agh!”

Goku “Hurts doesn’t it!” *Man, I didn’t think USSJ was this strong, I think I’m hurting him*

Goku, *There, the blood is distracting him, here’s my chance, time for SSJ3 again.*

Goku *Right now, time for a Super Kameha -you know what!*

The end.

Creshosk, your whole existence is a bullshiting fallacy.

Creshosk Senior Member

Reported for trolling and spamming.

Combat_Guru Restricted
Originally posted by Creshosk
Reported for trolling and spamming.

It worked!

2,000,000,000,000,001, and counting!

I order you to report me again! *Whip* *Whip*

xJLxKing Senior Member

^^^ Comabt Guru why must you become a troll and a spammer when you lose in an arguement?????? REPORTED!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by xJLxKing
^^^ Comabt Guru why must you become a troll and a spammer when you lose in an arguement?????? REPORTED!!!!!!!

Because it's impossible to win an argument with some one who obviously has no interest in changing his mind, or listening to reason and logic, and to top that off, doesn't provide evidence, and even hides it by saying the word 'Fallacy'.

So I just stop trying and amuse him, until some one who cares to actually argue comes a long.

dvampire xenogears

DBZ brings some of the most crazy people. Guru needs help, he's not stable.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Because it's impossible to win an argument with some one who obviously has no interest in changing his mind, or listening to reason and logic, and to top that off, doesn't provide evidence,
That's why no one wants to debate with you.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
and even hides it by saying the word 'Fallacy'.
I see you don't have clue one what that means.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
So I just stop trying and amuse him, until some one who cares to actually argue comes a long.
No one should because I mean

You're guity of ALL of this, every single last piece:

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Because it's impossible to win an argument with some one who obviously has no interest in changing his mind, or listening to reason and logic, and to top that off, doesn't provide evidence,
Combat_Guru Restricted

Originally posted by Creshosk
That's why no one wants to debate with you.

I see you don't have clue one what that means.

No one should because I mean

You're guity of ALL of this, every single last piece:

You act like I don't provide evidence, remember all of those Manga pages I provided?

I don't remember you providing the right agility feats.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
You act like I don't provide evidence,
You don't.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
remember all of those Manga pages I provided?
Nope.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
I don't remember you providing the right agility feats.
ITs been provided already. That's why I keep pointing out you keep commiting the slothful induction and supressed evidence fallacies.

Ignoring the evidence already provided does NOT make it go away.

Plus you still have yet to provide proof for a good number of your claims.

Combat_Guru Restricted

Originally posted by Creshosk
You don't.

Nope.

Manga Vo. 11 PG 86-87.
Manga Vo. PG 60-61
PG 136-141

To name a few, you see, this is why I don't debate with you, your full of it.

Now I ordered you to report me!!! You will be whipped for your impudence! *Whip* *Whip*

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
To name a few, you see, this is why I don't debate with you, your full of it.

Now I ordered you to report me!!! You will be whipped for your impudence! *Whip* *Whip*

And that's why no one should debate you. because you're just a troll who's full of it.

Captain REX Networking

Any more comments like the ones you're making, Combat_Guru, and you won't last here long. Knock it off or you'll receive an official warning.

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I apologize.

Creshosk isn't helping me calm down.

Fuzzy Hawkeye Vagrant

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
I apologize.

Creshosk isn't helping me calm down.

you tried to virtually whip him, don't make Rex come in here again, you won't like him when he's angry 🪩

Creshosk Senior Member

That was a quick edit, Combat_Guru...