Superman vs Goku (Official Thread)

People who would beat the most powerful BD GT char with ease

Silver Surfer
Thor
Hulk
Xavier
Gladiator
Sentry
Quasar
Superman (Captain Marvel)
Lobo
Black Adam
Flash
Green Lantern
Wonder Woman
Karate Kid
just a few but I guess you get the point

People who would be more in the DB league
Wolverine
Iron Man
Wonderman
Spiderman
Bishop
Ghost Rider
Namor (on land)
Booster Gold
Atom Smasher
Steel
Captain Comet
Wildfire
Red Tornado
Starfire
those, due to their individual powers, would be better challanges for Goku. More interesting, at least he might stand a chance against some of them...

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Why did he need help with:

Raditz
Ginyu force
Frieza
Cell
Buu?

Surely if he was so powerful he wouldn't need all the help he gets within the Anime/manga.

I don't see Superman using his son to fight his battle for him.

Still go on what has Goku done that is beyond Superman?

Another thing, say supes does kill goku, he would just be brought back, he would train hard for a couple of weeks, achieve another level of super saiyan, look for superman and completely obliterate him. Superman can't be brought back with dragonballs. Or goku could just wish to be stronger than superman. I know, you all think that it is unfair? actually it's not. Nothing is wrong with doing whatever you can to eliminate someone. Its all in the spirit of winning.

Originally posted by richardchavezj
Come on, u superman fans are so hard headed. I on the other hand refuse to belive

Originally posted by richardchavezj
Actually, superman did infact need help, the movie for example,

Originally posted by richardchavezj
if it wasn't for Lois, Richard, and Superman's son, he would've drowned, and eventually have died with that piece of kryptonite stuck in his thigh.

Originally posted by richardchavezj
Another thing, say supes does kill goku, he would just be brought back, he would train hard for a couple of weeks, achieve another level of super saiyan, look for superman and completely obliterate him. Superman can't be brought back with dragonballs. Or goku could just wish to be stronger than superman. I know, you all think that it is unfair? actually it's not. Nothing is wrong with doing whatever you can to eliminate someone. Its all in the spirit of winning.

then adding on would be fanfiction speculation, which means that everyone in the universe kills Super buu with ease.. since non-canon fanworks are permitted in the fight... including superman...

See the importance of sticking to what's canon Mr SSJ5?

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
People who would beat the most powerful BD GT char with ease

Silver Surfer
Thor
Hulk
Xavier
Gladiator
Sentry
Quasar
Superman (Captain Marvel)
Lobo
Black Adam
Flash
Green Lantern
Wonder Woman
Karate Kid
just a few but I guess you get the point

People who would be more in the DB league
Wolverine
Iron Man
Wonderman
Spiderman
Bishop
Ghost Rider
Namor (on land)
Booster Gold
Atom Smasher
Steel
Captain Comet
Wildfire
Red Tornado
Starfire
those, due to their individual powers, would be better challanges for Goku. More interesting, at least he might stand a chance against some of them...

Wow Spiderman would be in Goku;s league. you got to be kidding me. Spiderman coulnt dream of touching Goku, Goku would disentegrate Wolverine fairly easily. Goku is at least Skyfather level.

Originally posted by Sarutobi700
Wow Spiderman would be in Goku;s league. you got to be kidding me. Spiderman coulnt dream of touching Goku, Goku would disentegrate Wolverine fairly easily. Goku is at least Skyfather level.

OMG. Theres no getting to you fans is there? Well i guess thats the purpose of an arguement. lol. Dont forget DBZ GT though, MR. Kento

Originally posted by Kento
That's why Gokou can't take planet destroying blasts, couldn't block a planet destroying blast, isn't the strongest in the series since Gohan, and Kid Buu were stronger along with Super Buu if you don't start counting Gotenks, and Super Buu absorbing the heroes, and he always needs help to defeat the main villain. He doesn't even have any feats to put him up in the same tier as Superman and Superman is just High Herald. And no Gotenks didn't nap for 29 minutes..you can't even prove he napped for 28 minutes or that he flew around the Earth 12 times and wasn't just boasting about himself, or that he did it in just a minute. What is proven is it takes him a minutes to get to Buu. Where that is from where he lands isn't known but even if it was on the otherside of the Earth he'd still be slower than Light Speed. Besides Gotenks is faster, and more powerful than Gokou anyways.

richardchavez - GT isn't canon for one, contradicts a lot of junk, and has no manga. GT is about as canon as any of the movies and makes about as much sense.
Sarutobi - Lets see, Radditz he had to hold, and to weaken Radditz enough Gohan had to bust out, Vegeta he got all his bones broken, needed Yajirobe to cut Vegeta's tail, needed Krillen to throw the remaining Spirit Bomb energy, and needed Gohan to fight him while he lay broken, Freeza while it wasn't really help needed Krillen to be killed to even have a chance against Freeza but that's pretty much the only main villain he beat himself, he gave up against Cell and needed his son to do all the work, Kid Buu he needed Vegeta, Mr. Satan, and all of Earth. Vegeta to actually be smart enough to bring Earth back and to make the Spirit Bomb, Mr. Satan to get people of Earth to give him energy, and everybody on Earth to give him the energy to make a spirit bomb capable of beating Buu, and can't forget Dende because if he hadn't of thought to wish Gokou back to full energy Kid Buu still would have survived the Spirit Bomb like every other person hit with it. Superman has beaten Doomsday, Zod, Mongul, Bizarro, Manchester Black, and Metallo all who would either give Gokou a hard time or just flat out stomp him faster than Superman himself. Being beaten by SBP isn't that bad of a thing...SBP was beating up on everybody and he'd do it easier in the DBU. As for Gokou going faster than sound...that's a long way from light speed, and if I remember right..they aren't on Earth so Superman doesn't have to worry about what will happen if he goes light speed.

^^Has Superman ever defeated a villain on his own. He needs Jimmy Olsen 2 call the cops and the press!!! LOL. The flashes and anothe Superman to incarcerate Superboy Prime. Flash to beat Gorilla Grod, Batman to beat Joker, Flash to beat Doomsday, JL to beat Antimonitor

That makes no sense

yes it does

When did he need Flash to beat Doomsday? Superman has beaten Zod plenty of times. He's beaten Doomsday himself nearly every time with the exception of Hunter/Prey. Superman has beaten Luthor in a Kryptonian suit himself. He has beat Bizarro himself plenty of times. He beat Metallo himself. Gorilla Grodd is a Flash villain...how many times have they ever really fought in comics? Joker..he's nearly killed the Joker once because the Joker played a sick game with him, and Batman had to stop him. Speaking of Batman..he's nearly killed Batman also along with a future version of himself nearly killing Batman. You act as if having help fighting Superboy Prime is something to be shameful about. The dude wrecked all of DC Earth and Green Lanterns. He'd do it much faster in the Z universe and Gokou would be stupid enough to try and take him head on and die before he could get any help. The Antimonitor...yes having help against him is such a bad thing also.

Originally posted by Sarutobi700
Wow Spiderman would be in Goku;s league. you got to be kidding me. Spiderman coulnt dream of touching Goku, Goku would disentegrate Wolverine fairly easily. Goku is at least Skyfather level.

Spiderman has his senses to avoid Gokus attacks, Goku isn't that fast. Spiderman also took down Firelord who is above Goku in every way.

Wolverines healing factor would keep him long enough alive to get one strike, and this one would be enough to kill Goku.

Goku would be beaten badly by Sperman, he would train, achieve a new SSJ level come back fight, see that Superman was holding back, he would be defeated again, train come back, see that Superman was still holding back.... this would go one till eternity, or till Superman would become Superman Prime (from DC 1 M) then he would simply undo Goku 😉.

Superman beat a lot of Supervillains on his own without help, villains in and above his league. You may know some Superman comics where he needs help but there are still a lot more, believe me, there are more Superman comics you don't know then those you know.

The good thing about DBZ is that it's fairly easy to know all the canon stuff out there, with Superman it's much more difficult, that's the reason why people tend to be uninformed enough to believe that Gokus stands a chance.

BTW Goku's friends always have to help to keep the villain distracted, they even die sometimes in the process, till Goku has finished his training or gathering power, one of the main reason why it became so boring in the end.
When Goku was a child he was a much more interesting and entertaining hero.

Oh yes, an alien from another planet, send as an baby in a rocket, can fly has superpowers, seems familiar. Do never forget young Padawan, an ripp-off will never be as good as the original 😉.

Originally posted by Kento
That's why Gokou can't take planet destroying blasts, couldn't block a planet destroying blast, isn't the strongest in the series since Gohan, and Kid Buu were stronger along with Super Buu if you don't start counting Gotenks, and Super Buu absorbing the heroes, and he always needs help to defeat the main villain. He doesn't even have any feats to put him up in the same tier as Superman and Superman is just High Herald. And no Gotenks didn't nap for 29 minutes..you can't even prove he napped for 28 minutes or that he flew around the Earth 12 times and wasn't just boasting about himself, or that he did it in just a minute. What is proven is it takes him a minutes to get to Buu. Where that is from where he lands isn't known but even if it was on the otherside of the Earth he'd still be slower than Light Speed. Besides Gotenks is faster, and more powerful than Gokou anyways.

lets not get out of hand here. wolvie and spidey have no chance against goku. goku is very powerful, just no where near superman.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
...was kid buu first planet destroying blast deflected by vegita with ease? and I agree those characters listed would be destroyed by goku with IT he moves instantaniously his bea mattacks would be equal to a blackrock yell to these people it would vaporize them

Originally posted by emporerpants
lets not get out of hand here. wolvie and spidey have no chance against goku. goku is very powerful, just no where near superman.

Superman is nothing against the most powerful form Goku can achieve, Saiyans power has no limit, so what if krillin dies, if it causes goku to achieve another level, the kill everyone else, but goku would tear superman apart, literally