Originally posted by MageeI know we're not supposed to use other characters but gotenks scream ripped through a dimension or is that different?
It causes minimal damage to there surroundings. The shockwaves from the fight between pre and post crisis superman during IC ripped through reality and almost destroyed the planet they were fighting on. Hell when Lois died Supermans scream alone destroyed an entire street and shattered windows through out the city.
Kid Buu is far from the strongest. Super Buu w/Gohan absorbed is the strongest.Kid Buu is stronger than Fat Buu, but weaker than all versions of Super Buu.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678I think Super Buu's problem was just his arrogance and his toying with people. Super Buu w/Gotenks and Piccolo should have killed Gohan easily, and Super Buu w/Goten, Trunks, Piccolo, and Gohan shouldn't have even gave Gokou or Vegeta any kind of chance. Course the same can be said about Vegeta when he let the Z fighters rest to wait for Gokou, Cell when he tried to make Gohan angry, Gotenks is just about anything he did, and Vegetto for not just killing Buu when he had the chance. Still not sure why Vegetto went inside Buu to get them out instead of just wishing for them. It would all have been so easy. DBZ seems to have a lot of arrogant types that usually lead to their downfall..
isnt this simimilar to doomsday rex and regular doomsday, doomsday and kid buu weren't smart and both were extremely reckless wihle doomsday rex and super buu were smarter but more conservative or held themselves back mentally?
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678It would be more impressive if that gate way between the dimensions never existed and hadnt just been destroyed 5 mins before hand. Although still powerful its not the same as destroying a city with your voice, it didn't have any destructive force, it was just another one of Gotenks whaky abilities that didnt really make sense.
I know we're not supposed to use other characters but gotenks scream ripped through a dimension or is that different?
heres an example of how quickly vastly charecters in dbz can improve with training, why shoudl it be any different with any other point in the series where the charecters get better and at times a new transfomartion is undergone:
here it takes goku 6 months to RUN along snakeway which is 1 million kilometeres or 621371.2 miles , keep in mind that goku was tired from hunger nad took naps along the journey but by the end of his training which is not even a year but half a year (unlike gokus training during the cell saga in hyperbolic time chamber equivalent to a year and therefore shoudl vastly increase his abilities even more!) goku is able to cover the million kilometeres in only 2 days /48 hours including the possibilty that he does get tired /slow down or get hungry or even take a nap !
Originally posted by Kentohow was super buu toying with gohan...from what I've seen he was getting whooped
I think Super Buu's problem was just his arrogance and his toying with people. Super Buu w/Gotenks and Piccolo should have killed Gohan easily, and Super Buu w/Goten, Trunks, Piccolo, and Gohan shouldn't have even gave Gokou or Vegeta any kind of chance. Course the same can be said about Vegeta when he let the Z fighters rest to wait for Gokou, Cell when he tried to make Gohan angry, Gotenks is just about anything he did, and Vegetto for not just killing Buu when he had the chance. Still not sure why Vegetto went inside Buu to get them out instead of just wishing for them. It would all have been so easy. DBZ seems to have a lot of arrogant types that usually lead to their downfall..
and did vegetto have the dragon balls and wasnt he going to use them to save all of the people instead of getting gohan and them out of buu
Originally posted by Mageebuu did the same thing though wasnt it the force since the dimension actaully seemed to shatter?
It would be more impressive if that gate way between the dimensions never existed and hadnt just been destroyed 5 mins before hand. Although still powerful its not the same as destroying a city with your voice, it didn't have any destructive force, it was just another one of Gotenks whaky abilities that didnt really make sense.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678If I didn't say it I meant Super buu with Gotenks absorbed. He was stronger than Gohan
how was super buu toying with gohan...from what I've seen he was getting whoopedand did vegetto have the dragon balls and wasnt he going to use them to save all of the people instead of getting gohan and them out of buu
Also Vegetto's whole plan involved getting absorbed to free everybody. He didn't have the DB's. They were unusable because of the wish already made. Why do I remember a wish but not what it was....Can someone help me on this cause I remember Gokou gathering the balls and everything..
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
I know we're not supposed to use other characters but gotenks scream ripped through a dimension or is that different?
That's just a dimensional transport ability. Considering the barrier between those dimensions had already been opened by a gate that had been in that exact same spot for who - knows - how - long, it's interesting, but rather irrelevant in terms of battle.
heres an example of how quickly vastly charecters in dbz can improve with training, why shoudl it be any different with any other point in the series where the charecters get better and at times a new transfomartion is undergone:here it takes goku 6 months to RUN along snakeway which is 1 million kilometeres or 621371.2 miles , keep in mind that goku was tired from hunger nad took naps along the journey but by the end of his training which is not even a year but half a year (unlike gokus training during the cell saga in hyperbolic time chamber equivalent to a year and therefore shoudl vastly increase his abilities even more!) goku is able to cover the million kilometeres in only 2 days /48 hours including the possibilty that he does get tired /slow down or get hungry or even take a nap !
Well for one thing, he was cutting corners. For another thing, that is one quantifiable feat, but we don't have very many more quantifiable feats from later on in the manga.
hmm how fast would he being traveling to traverse snakeway in only 2 days, how many mph would it be?
Around 20,833 km/h, or about .011582% of lightspeed.
buu did the same thing though wasnt it the force since the dimension actaully seemed to shatter?
Um, no.... If you're talking about when he fighting Vegeto, that was a filler.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
hmm how fast would he being traveling to traverse snakeway in only 2 days, how many mph would it be?
it did take less than 2 days i just checked , but nayway goku was moving at 12945mph as 1milion km (621371 miles)/ 48 hours= 12945mph which is mach 16.8
... that was training in just 10G for about 6 months yes ,but he has trained in 100G before landing in namek ( btw 100G woudl make goku's weight assuming he is 80kg due to his durable skin weigh 8 tons and wasn't he doing one hand press ups whiel his whole body was elevated ?) and he became even faster , daster than guldo , then he tarined again in cell saga in 10G for a years worth whiel he was already vastly stronger then on king kai's plaent goku shoudl be wicked fast by the end of dbz , no superman who>lightspeed but perhaps a decent fraction of the speed of light!
Originally posted by ankur29Possibly should but I doubt Akira really gave it much thought since there are about what three speed feats in the series? One Gokou on Snake Way, two Gohan taking five minutes to get to Orange Star High from his house that takes a jet five hours, and three being Gotenks, which can't even be quantifed because it never says how much time any of it takes besides that he goes around the earth, supposedly naps, and wakes up before Piccolo arrives in all of 29 minutes, oh and I guess 4 would be Gotenks taking a minute or a little less to get to Buu's house which is also unknown because we don't know where he lands. Am I missing any? And possibly only two can be actually put into numbers...but Gokou cut corners on Snake Way, and Gohan wasn't ssj so they still won't be purely accurate.
it did take less than 2 days i just checked , but nayway goku was moving at 12945mph as 1milion km (621371 miles)/ 48 hours= 12945mph which is mach 16.8... that was training in just 10G for about 6 months yes ,but he has trained in 100G before landing in namek ( btw 100G woudl make goku's weight assuming he is 80kg due to his durable skin weigh 8 tons and wasn't he doing one hand press ups whiel his whole body was elevated ?) and he became even faster , daster than guldo , then he tarined again in cell saga in 10G for a years worth whiel he was already vastly stronger then on king kai's plaent goku shoudl be wicked fast by the end of dbz , no superman who>lightspeed but perhaps a decent fraction of the speed of light!
Originally posted by Sarutobi700Superman actually nuked himself, while laced in kryptonite and dying and came out just fine. He's been inside the heat of the sun. Batman has bombed Superman and the only thing that happened was Superman's cape was torn. Yea...Superman wouldn't have had any problem with them at all.
Cell got nuked and bombed severly before the Budokai and he didnt have a scratch. if it was Supes he would be dead, or severly injured, Goku's durability at that time was roughly equal to Cells
Originally posted by ankur29
it did take less than 2 days i just checked , but nayway goku was moving at 12945mph as 1milion km (621371 miles)/ 48 hours= 12945mph which is mach 16.8... that was training in just 10G for about 6 months yes ,but he has trained in 100G before landing in namek ( btw 100G woudl make goku's weight assuming he is 80kg due to his durable skin weigh 8 tons and wasn't he doing one hand press ups whiel his whole body was elevated ?) and he became even faster , daster than guldo , then he tarined again in cell saga in 10G for a years worth whiel he was already vastly stronger then on king kai's plaent goku shoudl be wicked fast by the end of dbz , no superman who>lightspeed but perhaps a decent fraction of the speed of light!
No evidence whatsoever. Show me quantifiable speed feats or all of that is meaningless.
Not to mention Vegeta, Goku, and Baba had time to have a whole conversation and debate in the time it took Buu w/Gohan absorbed just to fly from one spot on the earth to another.
BTW, there are no nukes in the DBU, for some reason. The only reference ever made to nuclear weapons, AFAIK, is a line in the American dub saying that the bomb inside Android 16 was nuclear (which was not present in the manga or Japanese anime)
