Superman vs Goku (Official Thread)

Started by Kento135 pages

Vegeta made a crater trying to stall Kid Buu because all he did was rapidly fire ki balls not charge up a super attack like his Final Flash.

Trunks only used normal ki blasts against the androids, you notice he shot his super attack upwards away from Earth.

Freeza also lived from being sliced in half....I'd like to see Gokou try that. Just because Freeza can do something doesn't mean a being of a completely different race can.

It has nothing to do with their blast getting weakn..It has to do with they don't have the power to destroy Earth outright and without powering up their special attacks.

You got it wrong

I was refering to the explosion of Vegeta against the Fat Buu.

And Trunks shot the android 18 facing his palm, and he kick the head of 17 and shot from the air to the ground.

Goku wont survive if he is cut in half like Freeza, i did not mean that, i mean that Freeza attack cut the planet, but Trunks desintegrate him with a smaller attack(Because Trunks is more powerful. the size of his attack dont measure power)

It has nothing to do with their blast getting weakn..It has to do with they don't have the power to destroy Earth outright and without powering up their special attacks.

It has to do with power, what Piccolo, Gohan, krillin, Tien, Chaouzu could not do or affect in any way Nappa, Vegeta did just by pointing his finger;Other example: When Freeza was in his third form, his attack hit Piccolo and affect him without pierce him, but in his perfect form he pierce Piccolo with just one ray. Cell coming back from his regenaration did damage Gohan, think he could not do before.
What Goku could not do with his kamehame ha to Cell(who resist a human army attack without a scratch), Gohan did against the SuperCell(after regenaration).

It's only planet destroying when they say so and that's normally by special attacks like the kamehameha wave. I think having a higher power level makes it easier to harm the other characters though.

Originally posted by dvampire
It's only planet destroying when they say so and that's normally by special attacks like the kamehameha wave. I think having a higher power level makes it easier to harm the other characters though.
actually almost all their attacks are planet destroying but they keep the explosion size down but the force up, so they dont destroy planets. we know every strong char from frieza up can survive a planet exploding

So, all of those generic ki blasts that are fired thousands of times during a fight are planet destroying? The how come when they miss and hit the planet, nothing happens?

Originally posted by superchron
So, all of those generic ki blasts that are fired thousands of times during a fight are planet destroying? The how come when they miss and hit the planet, nothing happens?

Its the DBZ fan's way of explaining something illogical in the show. 😐

Originally posted by superchron
So, all of those generic ki blasts that are fired thousands of times during a fight are planet destroying? The how come when they miss and hit the planet, nothing happens?
He is saying they compress the blasts so they don't destroy the planet, which is still BS. Frieza survived a planet being destroyed, but was FVCKED UP. The only DBZ character with even near comparable durability to Superman is Broly. His power is maximum.

Originally posted by chickenlover98
actually almost all their attacks are planet destroying but they keep the explosion size down but the force up, so they dont destroy planets. we know every strong char from frieza up can survive a planet exploding
Because Freeza...a being who lived from being sliced in half and everything surviving it means everybody else can? So if a Destructo Disk hit Gokou and cut through him he'd survive? Or because Freeza can survive in space Tien can?

@ Vvendeta - A blast that destroys a moon from Roshi being unable to harm Gokou yet a tiny ki blast from Cell being able to harm Gokou is more about them being higher level in ki energy not about they control their power so that it can destroy planets yet not destroy a planet when it hits it because villains do it all the time. If Cell could have destroyed Earth with a tiny uncharged blast he wouldn't have tried to self-destruct or had to charge up a huge Kamehameha. Didn't Vegeta talk about control when he fired his Final Flash into space..away from Earth?

Originally posted by Kento
Because Freeza...a being who lived from being sliced in half and everything surviving it means everybody else can? So if a Destructo Disk hit Gokou and cut through him he'd survive? Or because Freeza can survive in space Tien can?

@ Vvendeta - A blast that destroys a moon from Roshi being unable to harm Gokou yet a tiny ki blast from Cell being able to harm Gokou is more about them being higher level in ki energy not about they control their power so that it can destroy planets yet not destroy a planet when it hits it because villains do it all the time. If Cell could have destroyed Earth with a tiny uncharged blast he wouldn't have tried to self-destruct or had to charge up a huge Kamehameha. Didn't Vegeta talk about control when he fired his Final Flash into space..away from Earth?

ooooooooooooooooooooooooor it could be a friggin' story being told and thinking about it logically is not what Toriyama had in mind when he was writing a story.

Originally posted by dadudemon
ooooooooooooooooooooooooor it could be a friggin' story being told and thinking about it logically is not what Toriyama had in mind when he was writing a story.
We shouldn't assume anything just because the writer did not think of the inconsistencies of the story and powerlevels.

Originally posted by dadudemon
ooooooooooooooooooooooooor it could be a friggin' story being told and thinking about it logically is not what Toriyama had in mind when he was writing a story.
Yet he puts Gokou dodging ki balls from Perfect Cell that hit the ground but flying high into the sky as Cell charged a kamehameha and using IT to dodge so that the Earth would be fine? Or if they could control it so much why did Vegeta have to shoot a Final Flash into space or Gokou have to IT behind Cell to fire the Kamehameha upwards? I think I'll stick with they can't blow up planets casually with regular ki blasts and what not.

Originally posted by Kento
Yet he puts Gokou dodging ki balls from Perfect Cell that hit the ground but flying high into the sky as Cell charged a kamehameha and using IT to dodge so that the Earth would be fine? Or if they could control it so much why did Vegeta have to shoot a Final Flash into space or Gokou have to IT behind Cell to fire the Kamehameha upwards? I think I'll stick with they can't blow up planets casually with regular ki blasts and what not.

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Originally posted by dadudemon
ooooooooooooooooooooooooor it could be a friggin' story being told and thinking about it logically is not what Toriyama had in mind when he was writing a story.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
He is saying they compress the blasts so they don't destroy the planet, which is still BS. Frieza survived a planet being destroyed, but was FVCKED UP. The only DBZ character with even near comparable durability to Superman is Broly. His power is maximum.
not only did frieza survive a planet exploding but he did it while being on the brink of death. and no it isnt bullshit.

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I think it's some people saying that every tiny ki blast is able to destroy a planet but they have such control they compress it that it doesn't but still has the power even though it hits the planet and that's why the can hurt others with normal ki blasts but weaker people like Roshi couldn't with his full power Kamehameha. That's basically it really besides if Freeza can survive a planet exploding can everybody more powerful than him can.

That's absolutely stupid.

Why do they specifically announce whenever an attack is powerful enough to destroy a planet then?

Not to mention that energy can't just disappear.

In any moment i said that all the attacks in DB are a planet destroyer, I said that the energy attacks are more powerful regardless the size, they measure in what they desintegrate in the radio of the Attack, I said this:

Originally posted by Vvendeta

It has to do with power, what Piccolo, Gohan, krillin, Tien, Chaouzu could not do or affect in any way Nappa, Vegeta did just by pointing his finger;Other example: When Freeza was in his third form, his attack hit Piccolo and affect him without pierce him, but in his perfect form he pierce Piccolo with just one ray. Cell coming back from his regenaration did damage Gohan, think he could not do before.
What Goku could not do with his kamehame ha to Cell(who resist a human army attack without a scratch), Gohan did against the SuperCell(after regenaration).

To destroy the planet they have to charge like the Kid Buu did of hit the core.

What I was against is to the comments like, Is only make a crater, downplaying all the attacks. and the attacks are controled, Vegeta explain this to android 18 @kento.

Originally posted by Kento

@ Vvendeta - A blast that destroys a moon from Roshi being unable to harm Gokou yet a tiny ki blast from Cell being able to harm Gokou is more about them being higher level in ki energy not about they control their power so that it can destroy planets yet not destroy a planet when it hits it because villains do it all the time. If Cell could have destroyed Earth with a tiny uncharged blast he wouldn't have tried to self-destruct or had to charge up a huge Kamehameha. Didn't Vegeta talk about control when he fired his Final Flash into space..away from Earth?

If you read my quote comment you will see that I mean that attacks have more power regardless if they just do a crater or destroy cities, that is why i told you that the attack of Nappa destroying the city is inferior in his radio from the Attack that Vegeta use against the Fat Buu, now I said this:

Vvendeta

Superman soporters go on and on in the attacks size and craters, in the Manga, of what i understand and what my opinion is about it, is that Toriyama mean for them to increase in power regardless the size, like when human torch from the fantastic 4 go Nova only in his Radio, not actually destruying the planet with a giant Nova, DB attacks have the power, in his radio of destruction. But is convenient to say they only make a crater by superman soporters.


In any moment i mentioned that a tiny attack will destroy the planet.
This guy is right:
DVampire

It's only planet destroying when they say so and that's normally by special attacks like the kamehameha wave. I think having a higher power level makes it easier to harm the other characters though.


A more ki, desintegrate more durable characters, that is prove when Cell and SSJ2 Gohan desintegrated him until the last atom when the others could not do, the durability of Cell is prove when he was attack by a human army, he wast intact, a very Hulk alike feat. (and a DB character is more durable a more ki they have, like when Goku use his finger against Trunks)

vendetta, the word youre trying to use is radius I think, not radio. theyre close but have different meanings

Frieza survived alot, by the end of a long fight with goku and his power serverly drained he gets cut in half ( survives) caught in the planet exploding( survives) the explosion was soo big too you could see it from outside the galaxy !! Frieza new Goku could survive the planet blowing up but that wasnt the point, the point was without a planet there would be no more air for goku to breathe, Frieza was a smart bastard 😎

Except Goku can't survive a planet destroying attack.