Galactus doesn't belong on the list. He does only eat to survive and does make deals to spare planets by taking new heralds. He's not completely heartless. He's also keeping Abraxas in check. So he has good motivation for some of his "evil actions" Not only his survival but the survival of well... all of the marvel multiverse. If anything put Abraxas up on A+ for forcing not only this, but the only way to get rid of him was to destroy the multiverse and recreate it.
A+
Anti-Monitor, Dr. Doom, Joker, Ozymandias, Thanos
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A
Bullseye, Doomsday, Darkseid, Luthor, Magneto, Sabertooth, Sinestro
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B
Bane, Green Goblin, Kingpin, Loki, Mr. Sinister, Venom, Ra's al Ghul, Ronan
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C
Absorbing Man, Harley Quin, Killer Croc, Mojo, Scorpion
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F
Pastepot Pete, Rhino
Proposals:
Maxwell Lord to A ... 2 (Smurph, Soljer) vs. 0
Tyrant to A+ ... 1 (Master-Borg) vs. 0
Cyber to A ... 1 (Battlehammer) vs. 0
Luthor to A+ ... 2 (Master-Borg, hugekent) vs. 1 (Smurph)
Juggernaut to B ... 1 (Master-Borg) vs. 0
Apocalypse to B ... 1 (Master-Borg) vs. 0
Green Goblin to A ... 1 (Master-Borg) vs.
Black Adam to A+ ... 1 (Bran) vs. 1 (Smurph)
Luthor to A+ ... 1 (Capt. Spaulding) vs. 1 (Smurph)
Red Hood for A ... 1 (Martian Mind) vs. 2 (Soljer, Smurph)
Malefic for A ... 1 (Maritan) vs. 1 (Smurph)
Sabretooth to B ... 1 (Switch) vs. 2 (Smurph, Soljer)
Apocalypse to B ... 2 (Ash, Switch) vs. 0
Mephisto to A+ ... 1 (Maestro) vs. 1 (Smurph)
Zoom to B ... 1 (Gecko) vs. 1 (Soljer)
Two-Face for B ... 1 (Erik L) vs. 0
Hush for B ... 1 (Erik L) vs. 0
Exodus for B ... 1 (Erik L) vs. 0
Morlun for B ... 2 (Erik L, Niñoaraña) vs. 1 (Gecko)
Morlun for A ... 1 (Gecko) vs. 3 (Erik L, Niño, Citizen V)
[i]Zoom to A[i] ... 1 (Soljer) vs. 1 (Gecko)
Notes:
-Meh. Galactus no longer counts for this thread. srug
-Carnage to A was defeated
-Start agreeing or disagreeing, guys...
Originally posted by SpookySmurphFor: Maxwell Lord to A, Apoc to B(there are 3 already btw), Hush to B, Sabes to B, Two-Face to B and also Zoom to A.Proposals:
Maxwell Lord to A ... 2 (Smurph, Soljer) vs. 0
Tyrant to A+ ... 1 (Master-Borg) vs. 0
Cyber to A ... 1 (Battlehammer) vs. 0
Luthor to A+ ... 2 (Master-Borg, hugekent) vs. 1 (Smurph)
Juggernaut to B ... 1 (Master-Borg) vs. 0
Apocalypse to B ... 1 (Master-Borg) vs. 0
Green Goblin to A ... 1 (Master-Borg) vs.
Black Adam to A+ ... 1 (Bran) vs. 1 (Smurph)
Luthor to A+ ... 1 (Capt. Spaulding) vs. 1 (Smurph)
Red Hood for A ... 1 (Martian Mind) vs. 2 (Soljer, Smurph)
Malefic for A ... 1 (Maritan) vs. 1 (Smurph)
Sabretooth to B ... 1 (Switch) vs. 2 (Smurph, Soljer)
Apocalypse to B ... 2 (Ash, Switch) vs. 0
Mephisto to A+ ... 1 (Maestro) vs. 1 (Smurph)
Zoom to B ... 1 (Gecko) vs. 1 (Soljer)
Two-Face for B ... 1 (Erik L) vs. 0
Hush for B ... 1 (Erik L) vs. 0
Exodus for B ... 1 (Erik L) vs. 0
Morlun for B ... 2 (Erik L, Niñoaraña) vs. 1 (Gecko)
Morlun for A ... 1 (Gecko) vs. 3 (Erik L, Niño, Citizen V)
Zoom to A ... 1 (Soljer) vs. 1 (Gecko)
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we need a Threat based scale (universal, planetary, etc.) and an effed upness scale (eats babies, kicks dogs, etc.)
For - Black Adam, Apocalypse and Luthor.
DC
I nominate Cyborg for A+
I nominate Major Force for B or A
I nominate Despero for A
I nominate Eclipso for A+
Marvel
I nominate Mr. Sinister to A
I nominate Red Skull to A or B
I also think there needs to be more ranks. Bullseye and Sabes should NOT be on the same villainry level as the rest in A.
Xorn to A+. Killing Jean, killing lots of people in Manhattan. I think he also killed one of the Stepford gals. He also had this undercover thing going on for a while and was mimicing Magneto and pretty much was recruiting X-students for his neo nazi group.
Random-goon-who-shot-aunt-May to A. Killed aunt May. Hm.
See why the classification should be changed. IMO a overall "goodness"/effectiveness/coolness should be the factor that counts. For example not many of the Spider-man's enemies can get very high on this rating system as Spider-man has never really lost anyone important to him aside from May & Gwen. (Yeah yeah, he lost his life and at other time, MJ for a while. May was also capture by Scorpnom for a while yadda yadda) Maybe the current classification system just needs to be a bit.. Clearer?
Seriously though:
GreenGoblin should definitely be A+. The whole clone saga was orchestrated by him, he was first one to know Spidey's identity, he killed Gwen, he was the reason Chameleon built copies of Peter's Parents. The whole deal with Gwen's twins. Plus he's just that badass. (Norman that is)
Adding Cassandra Nova & Wanda to A+. They got rid most of the mutants.
Why's Dr.Doom so high? He isn't that impressive.
Sinister to A. He has f-ed with the X-men by cloning, turning them to humans etc so many times that he has pretty much guaranteed his place in A.
Apocalypse B
Hulk to A
Onslaught to B.
I never really liked Doom too much either, and I wouldn't place him in A+.
The same goes for Anti-Monitor. To me, he doesn't actually seem like a very interesting villain. Destruction capabilities/power doesn't actually make a villain so I'm in agreement that the criteria should be changed.
What exactly makes a villain superior to another ? Power ? Respect ? Feats ? This needs to be elaborated. For example, I like Magneto and Two Face better than Anti-Monitor ..
Originally posted by SpookySmurphsly
[b]Proposals:
Maxwell Lord to A ... 2 (Smurph, Soljer) vs. 0
Tyrant to A+ ... 1 (Master-Borg) vs. 0
Cyber to A ... 1 (Battlehammer) vs. 0
Luthor to A+ ... 2 (Master-Borg, hugekent) vs. 1 (Smurph)
Juggernaut to B ... 1 (Master-Borg) vs. 0
Apocalypse to B ... 1 (Master-Borg) vs. 0
Green Goblin to A ... 1 (Master-Borg) vs.
Black Adam to A+ ... 1 (Bran) vs. 1 (Smurph)
Luthor to A+ ... 1 (Capt. Spaulding) vs. 1 (Smurph)
Red Hood for A ... 1 (Martian Mind) vs. 2 (Soljer, Smurph)
Malefic for A ... 1 (Maritan) vs. 1 (Smurph)
Sabretooth to B ... 1 (Switch) vs. 2 (Smurph, Soljer)
Apocalypse to B ... 2 (Ash, Switch) vs. 0
Mephisto to A+ ... 1 (Maestro) vs. 1 (Smurph)
Zoom to B ... 1 (Gecko) vs. 1 (Soljer)
Two-Face for B ... 1 (Erik L) vs. 0
Hush for B ... 1 (Erik L) vs. 0
Exodus for B ... 1 (Erik L) vs. 0
Morlun for B ... 2 (Erik L, Niñoaraña) vs. 1 (Gecko)
Morlun for A ... 1 (Gecko) vs. 3 (Erik L, Niño, Citizen V)
Zoom to A ... 1 (Soljer) vs. 1 (Gecko)Notes:
-Meh. Galactus no longer counts for this thread. srug
-Carnage to A was defeated-Start agreeing or disagreeing, guys... [/B]