Classic Juggernaut v.s. WWH

Originally posted by Enyalus
So...for pure speculative sake, assume you and I got into a fist fight. We deadlock, nobody's moving back or forth. We're pretty evenly matched in the strength department. Yet, you've managed to land, say, three really hard punches against me. I'm a bad fighter. I've only gotten you twice, about equally as damaging.

Don't tell me you'd call our fight a stalemate. 😛 Wouldn't you say, "Dude, I was so winning." lol

Regardless, when it comes to personal pride, of course I'd brag to everyone and their mother that I was kicking your ass!

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Didn't WWH already beat Juggy at classic levels? biscuits

Originally posted by Badabing
Didn't WWH already beat Juggy at classic levels? biscuits

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Blasted concrete! durhulk The bane of all bricks...

... anyway Savage Hulk destroyed an amped Onslaught's armor. And this is World War Hulk. A pre-Nate/Franklin amped Onslaught ktfo Juggs. I think the math works in World War Hulk's favor.

I don't see the Math. Juggs didn't actually fight Onslaught, nor did he have someone amping him or other heroes fighting with him. (Just to make it clear, I am not saying someone gave him power. But Jean did block off the human portion of him and increased his anger levels.)

On the WWH fight, Juggs did start pushing Hulk back from a standstill while grappling.

its simple mathematics, Hulks strength increases exponentially, eventually juggs will get k.oed

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
I don't see the Math. Juggs didn't actually fight Onslaught, nor did he have someone amping him or other heroes fighting with him. (Just to make it clear, I am not saying someone gave him power. But Jean did block off the human portion of him and increased his anger levels.)

On the WWH fight, Juggs did start pushing Hulk back from a standstill while grappling.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Say what? That's an incredibly large leap of logic to be making. Where do you see Hulk being pushed backwards here? They're stationary:

^ What are you talking about? Can't be the second one. The third one? What makes you believe that WWH is being pushed back from that one?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ What are you talking about? Can't be the second one. The third one? What makes you believe that WWH is being pushed back from that one?

Because you can see the mark on the cement where he foot used to be, and that it was moved back. Plus, there's a mound of concrete right behind his left foot to indicate that he's being moved back. There's also rocks in the air to indicate that there is movement, and they aren't standing still unless they're powering up like Goku.

Wait. You mean the slight divot in front of Hulk's right foot?

hysterical

Is that what some people are using as proof that WWH was being pushed back?! Did it ever occur to anybody that perhaps WWH stepped down, picked up his heel and that caused the little divot? Here, let's engage in a little at-home experiment. Lean against your wall like you were stretching your right calf, in the same exact position that WWH is. Keep both your heels planted on the ground first. Now push a little bit off your left foot and apply pressure against the wall. What happens? Hopefully if your wall isn't made of sheetrock and you haven't fallen through it, your left heel lifted a little bit and your left foot's toeline receded slightly. Now do me a favor and tell me whether your entire body or even your right foot moved backwards at all. If Juggernaut is strong enough that he acts like a virtual wall, then a slight divot would be exactly what would form in front of WWH's foot as he held his ground and stopped all momentum.

Or even barring that, perhaps Juggs pushed him back slightly and then WWH brought his full strength to bear and stopped the momentum and they became stationary? Jebus. There is no indication of backwards motion here for goodness sake. Needless to say, I am not a fan of this theory. Boo.

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It's obvious that Juggernaut is pushing Hulk backwards in that panel. If not, why would the Writer/Artist make a point to show a close up of their feet?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
It's obvious that Juggernaut is pushing Hulk backwards in that panel. If not, why would the Writer/Artist make a point to show a close up of their feet?

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Then how come it shows where Hulks foot was and then where it is?

Not to mention the debris build-up behind the Hulks foot.

hulk was defenitily being pushed back you can clearly see his old footprint from the backward montion of his foot

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Wait. You mean the slight divot in front of Hulk's right foot?

hysterical

Is that what some people are using as proof that WWH was being pushed back?! Did it ever occur to anybody that perhaps WWH stepped down, picked up his heel and that caused the little divot? Here, let's engage in a little at-home experiment. Lean against your wall like you were stretching your right calf, in the same exact position that WWH is. Keep both your heels planted on the ground first. Now push a little bit off your left foot and apply pressure against the wall. What happens? Hopefully if your wall isn't made of sheetrock and you haven't fallen through it, your left heel lifted a little bit and your left foot's toeline receded slightly. Now do me a favor and tell me whether your entire body or even your right foot moved backwards at all. If Juggernaut is strong enough that he acts like a virtual wall, then a slight divot would be exactly what would form in front of WWH's foot as he held his ground and stopped all momentum.

Or even barring that, perhaps Juggs pushed him back slightly and then WWH brought his full strength to bear and stopped the momentum and they became stationary? Jebus. There is no indication of backwards motion here for goodness sake. Needless to say, I am not a fan of this theory. Boo.

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Yes, that's a much more sound theory than Juggy simply pushing Hulk back... They're also obviously just powering up as well.

That's the best I can come up. I'm honestly dumbfounded beyond words.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
That's the best I can come up. I'm honestly dumbfounded beyond words.

Explain how Hulk has debris build-up behind his foot and the Juggernaut doesn't?

So Juggs and Hulk were causing the foundation to collapse by standing still?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Explain how Hulk has debris build-up behind his foot and the Juggernaut doesn't?

Originally posted by Mindset
So Juggs and Hulk were causing the foundation to collapse by standing still?

And the rocks up in the air from both sides (when Juggy was just acting as a wall) was because they were turning into super sayians?