Originally posted by Man of Christ
maul didnt beat him,. if that hole wasnt there it'd been mauls behind. he got lucky with the geography.
Originally posted by Darth Hord
First of all it is called using your surroundings to your advantage and there is nothing wrong with that. Sidious used vs Yoda,Dooku used it,Vader did. The best fighters know how to use the playing field to their advantage. And Maul was holding off Kenobi still even when Kenobi had him on the ground Maul countered. There is no "luck" here.
Maul was holding him off, but he was losing on even ground. Maul won because of the terrain. Yes it speaks to his resourcefulness, but on even ground Kenobi would have won.
Originally posted by Darth Hord🙂
First of all it is called using your surroundings to your advantage and there is nothing wrong with that. Sidious used vs Yoda,Dooku used it,Vader did. The best fighters know how to use the playing field to their advantage. And Maul was holding off Kenobi still even when Kenobi had him on the ground Maul countered. There is no "luck" here.
Originally posted by Se7in
Maul was holding him off, but he was losing on even ground. Maul won because of the terrain. Yes it speaks to his resourcefulness, but on even ground Kenobi would have won.
The only time that Kenobi had the edge was when he cut the saber in two and pushed Maul to the ground the Maul blocked kenobi's next attack and then regrouped to get himself ready to continue. And the duel is fairly even with Maul landing a kick to the face and other that it was even. But when Maul pushed Kenobi he loses his saber in midair then he hits the floor and then bounces off the floor again(his head and neck area) and into the put and manages to grab hold of the pipe.
Originally posted by darthyoda23
curbstomp in the favor of luke
How any reasons why someone with very little training who's been a jedi for a few years is gonna beat one of the deadliest sith apprentices in history who was able to beat two skilled swordsmen Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon and the same time while injured, bested a jedi who was said to have lightsaber skills second to none, could tank force lighting and mastered the lightsaber form Juyo.
The only chance Luke has of winning is if maul threatens to turn Leia over to the darkside and considering the fact Maul rarely taunts his opponents I have to give this to Maul 8/10
Originally posted by darthyoda23
curbstomp in the favor of luke
To quote myself
Originally posted by Elite Hunter
Maul WinsHe is called "one of the deadliest Sith apprentices in history,"in the Complete Visual Dictionary
He was trained by Sidious in both the sith and jedi arts.(dark Side source book)
He defeated Anoon Bondara who had had lightsaber skills(technical skill) second to none prior to TPM. (yes I had to mention it)
Maul survived on a planet by himself for a month all the while being attacked by"hordes of deadly assassin droids" then on the same planet (after he was exhausted,hungry, and wounded) he dueled Darth Sidious and gave him a run for his money.
In shadow hunter he is described to move as a "blur"
Anoon's apprentice Darsha Assant tried to commit a suicidal explosion that would killer her and Maul because she couldn't kill him.
He outdueled the nightsister Mighella who was the personal body guard of Alexi Garyn,the leader of the blacksun,then he was able to resist her force lightning and cut her in two still being hit by the force lightning.
He infiltrated the Black Sun and killed its leader Alexi Graryn, his body guard the Mighella and all of the Vigos and their body guards.
He outdueled Obiwan and killed Qui-gon who is described in the TPM novel "one of the most able swordsmen in the Jedi order" and he wasn't even at a 100%.
Two different sources say that while it may have looked like TPM(DS) Obiwan was beating Maul it was in fact the opposite Obiwan caught him by surprise but as they continued their 1v1 duel, Maul was getting stronger and Obiwan was getting weaker. Neither source contradicts the movie because they are describing what we can't see with out eyes which is the character's thoughts and how they physically feel.
As a practitioner of Juyo Maul is thus a "high level master of multiple forms"
Now how about you read the thread because you would know that Luke has no chance of winning, the only reason he beat Vader was because he was using the darkside, and Vader wasn't trying to kill him. I also provided a quote in this thread that said Luke admitted that Vader could have killed him if he wanted to on the death star II.
Originally posted by darthyoda23
in episode 6 he rook down vader without that much of a difficulty whats maul gonna do to him 😎
Originally posted by Elite Hunteryea but vader beated maul 😕
By using the darkside and use lightsaber as a baseball bat to overwhelm Vader who didn't want to kill him. Luke would not use the darkside here and even if he did it, he would still lose because Maul can out maneuver Luke, has more experience and when Obiwan used the darkside vs Maul it hurt him in the end.