Originally posted by horrorwolf
Hulk survives for toughness and regenerative reasons mentioned above + his higher durability showings versus people equivalent or beyond Superman's capabilities....Thor, Silver Surver, Thanos etc.And that's just regular Hulk.
Question....
Can any Hulk endure the indescribable pain from the absorption of a Black Hole?
(hints to Supes Speedblitz thread)
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Question....Can any Hulk endure the indescribable pain from the absorption of a Black Hole?
(hints to Supes Speedblitz thread)
because if you're talking about whether or not Hulk could survive being inside a blackhole, I think you'll find the answer is already available on-panel.
he survived being drawn into a blackhole when he went to Sakaar. in fact, he was the only creature known to the Sakaarians to have survived without being rendered unconscious, and as if to further illustrate that point The Silver Surfer went through the exact same black hole and ended up unconscious and stripped of most of his power. Hulk too was severely weakened but was still able to battle armies of monsters and traverse molten rocks and endure massive - city destroying - bombs.
oh and during Heroes Reborn, he was the nexus of two universes of energy - far more than any black hole I'd imagine - and also physically became the bridge from the pocket universe to 616 for the rest of the heroes trapped in the pocket universe.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
I understand.It was questioned earlier, and is very relevent to this topic as it vital to both keeping WWHulk in this fight, remain capable of doing damage, as well wearing down his opponents over time during battle.
Hulk has Durabilty that is slightly below Superman, but has cell and tissue Regen that is far beyond that of Wolverine's, much less Kryptonians in general. I would put it just under Deadpool's when sufficiently enraged.
Hulk has a terrible durability level. He may have other big pluses in his profile, but he is constantly hurt. That is his big weakness, because anybody that can hurt him enough, early on, can take him out, as long as they do enough damage before his HF takes over, or his strength increases.
He is nowhere near Superman durability.
And, instead of arguing against what I am saying, you Hulkies should embrace it. Because, that is what makes him fun to read.
He can be hurt, and he can lose, but he has so much strength.
So, it is always like a race. Can he get where he needs to be to win, before he gets trashed.
But, he is not very durable compared to other top tiers.
actually, he is probably more durable than Superman, if you take durability to mean more than just whether or not he'll bleed... 'cos yes he can be scratched and on occasions cut but, he can take phenomenal amounts of pain without wilting/being KO'd, regardless of the healing.
the staggeringly powerful healing just puts him way beyond Superman 🙂.
Originally posted by janus77
what exactly do you mean by "the absorption of a black hole"?
do you mean eating one? 😕because if you're talking about whether or not Hulk could survive being inside a blackhole, I think you'll find the answer is already available on-panel.
he survived being drawn into a blackhole when he went to Sakaar. in fact, he was the only creature known to the Sakaarians to have survived without being rendered unconscious, and as if to further illustrate that point The Silver Surfer went through the exact same black hole and ended up unconscious and stripped of most of his power. Hulk too was severely weakened but was still able to battle armies of monsters and traverse molten rocks and endure massive - city destroying - bombs.
oh and during Heroes Reborn, he was the nexus of two universes of energy - far more than any black hole I'd imagine - and also physically became the bridge from the pocket universe to 616 for the rest of the heroes trapped in the pocket universe.
That was not the definitive "Black Hole".
It was more like one type of theorized worm hole.
And, Marvel HAS shown all the different possible types of black hole.
I think the WrathfulDwarf was talking about a REAL Black Hole.
The one that turns you into a line of linguini 1 particle thick, like being pushed down a sausage grinder.
Originally posted by Horrificus👆
This is wrong.
You do not understand the concept of "Durability".Hulk has a terrible durability level. He may have other big pluses in his profile, but he is constantly hurt. That is his big weakness, because anybody that can hurt him enough, early on, can take him out, as long as they do enough damage before his HF takes over, or his strength increases.
He is nowhere near Superman durability.
And, instead of arguing against what I am saying, you Hulkies should embrace it. Because, that is what makes him fun to read.
He can be hurt, and he can lose, but he has so much strength.
So, it is always like a race. Can he get where he needs to be to win, before he gets trashed.But, he is not very durable compared to other top tiers.
Originally posted by janus77
what exactly do you mean by "the absorption of a black hole"?
do you mean eating one? 😕because if you're talking about whether or not Hulk could survive being inside a blackhole, I think you'll find the answer is already available on-panel.
he survived being drawn into a blackhole when he went to Sakaar. in fact, he was the only creature known to the Sakaarians to have survived without being rendered unconscious, and as if to further illustrate that point The Silver Surfer went through the exact same black hole and ended up unconscious and stripped of most of his power. Hulk too was severely weakened but was still able to battle armies of monsters and traverse molten rocks and endure massive - city destroying - bombs.
oh and during Heroes Reborn, he was the nexus of two universes of energy - far more than any black hole I'd imagine - and also physically became the bridge from the pocket universe to 616 for the rest of the heroes trapped in the pocket universe.
See the Superman Speedblitz vs...? thread.
That kind of Black Hole.
Originally posted by Horrificus
That was not the definitive "Black Hole".
It was more like one type of theorized worm hole.
And, Marvel HAS shown all the different possible types of black hole.I think the WrathfulDwarf was talking about a REAL Black Hole.
The one that turns you into a line of linguini 1 particle thick, like being pushed down a sausage grinder.
yes 'cos if Hulk's survived it without any trouble then surely it can't be a black hole... oh wait, The friggin SILVER SURFER couldn't handle it and HE IS >>>>>>>>>>> Superman's durability 😈.
Originally posted by janus77
actually, he is probably more durable than Superman, if you take durability to mean more than just whether or not he'll bleed... 'cos yes he can be scratched and on occasions cut but, he can take phenomenal amounts of pain without wilting/being KO'd, regardless of the healing.the staggeringly powerful healing just puts him way beyond Superman 🙂.
With the Silver Surfer, it's about source of power, not sheer durability.
Hulk's power source is much more 'dynamic' than the Surfer's, when both are weakened, depowered, or otherwise stripped of their source, the Hulk regains strength much more easily than the Surfer regains the power cosmic.
For the record, the Silver Surfer is at least on par with Superman in terms of durability - and a very good case could be made for his superiority.
Originally posted by Horrificus
This is wrong.
You do not understand the concept of "Durability".Hulk has a terrible durability level. He may have other big pluses in his profile, but he is constantly hurt. That is his big weakness, because anybody that can hurt him enough, early on, can take him out, as long as they do enough damage before his HF takes over, or his strength increases.
He is nowhere near Superman durability.
And, instead of arguing against what I am saying, you Hulkies should embrace it. Because, that is what makes him fun to read.
He can be hurt, and he can lose, but he has so much strength.
So, it is always like a race. Can he get where he needs to be to win, before he gets trashed.But, he is not very durable compared to other top tiers.
You're thinking in terms of his superficial durability though, versus straight invulnerability.
Superman for instance I would say has more invulnerability type powers, where as Hulk actually is very durable, it's just that his surface / skin level of durability isn't that high. Meaning that a lower powered hero can give him a bloody nose or lip, but he's very hard to take down for the count.
For example, he has endured a black hole already, so we know that pure physical crushing force has to be on the extremely high end to knock him out while he's angry. Due to his regen factor he can take a ton of superficial wounds, but anything less than snapping his neck, blowing out his brain / brain stem, etc. is not going to stop him, or of course, BFR. He's been shown to fight for weeks non stop, so apparently his anger factor fuels his endurance as well as his durability, regeneration and strength.
Originally posted by Horrificus
This is wrong.
You do not understand the concept of "Durability".Hulk has a terrible durability level.
he is not very durable compared to other top tiers.
😆 😆 😆
You couldn't be MORE wrong. Hulk has extemely high durability - and specifically high against blunt attacks.
There is no way he could go toe to toe and withstand blows from the likes of Silver Surfer, High Evolutionary, Thanos without it.
Hulk's cellular tissue has easily withstood anti-matter, anti-gamma blasts, SuperNova attacks from Human torch, etc...
For you to claim Hulk has a "terrible durability level" displays pretty severe ignorance. 🙁
The speed and potency of his regenerative capabilities is a whole matter in inself. Think for a second about how effective Wolverine's healing factor is....HULK surpasses that. As mentioned Hulk's regen lies somewhere just below Deadpool's....not only that but its fueled by a potentially endless source of gamma.
'nuff said.