Darth Nihilus vs. AC Sephiroth

Originally posted by Ivalice

Again if he actually had the "intangibility" ability he would have at LEAST been stated to have it and at LEAST demonstrated once.

Have u even played FF7? He did it numorous times, and that was a WEAKER form of Sephiroth, genius.

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Who says you have to teleport in order to beat sephiroth? Cloud could match him in AC without teleporting, he got defeatef by mere mortals in ff7 whom can't teleport.

And precognition DOES make you supremely powerful, ever heard of for seeing a forcoming attack and countering the attack making it useless?

How about the fact that sephiroth cannot defend against mere force attacks?

Whats to say that he can even defend himself from being outright possessed by nihilus?

Hey idiot how is asking weather you can debate or not equate to being a homosexual question? Or are you REALLY a homosexual hence you brought up the word so many times?

I asked a question sparkey, i didn't state i like males if you can actually read LET ALONE have basic comprehension.

How am i getting owned? You can't debate, you can't back up your claims, the burden of proof ALWAYS falls on you.

terry IS an idiot.

this is what happens when you pit the SW vs VG vs 🙄
anyway - nihilus wins
simply put....REALLY simply put, hes faster...in the time it would take seph to blink, he would be in the grip of a force choke giving the sith lord all the time in the world to wtf own him

btw ivalice, can nihilus do a forcestorm on par or close to the likes of palpatine's??

Originally posted by MadMel
this is what happens when you pit the SW vs VG vs 🙄
anyway - nihilus wins
simply put....REALLY simply put, hes faster...in the time it would take seph to blink, he would be in the grip of a force choke giving the sith lord all the time in the world to wtf own him

btw ivalice, can nihilus do a forcestorm on par or close to the likes of palpatine's??

Congratulations on ignoring everything stated about Sephiroth in this thread.

He will force choke a bunch of Jenova cells, because Seph already abandoned the body. Then it's Nihilus vs Negative Lifestream + powerful magic + powerful TK.

And even if Sephiroth is still using Jenova's body... Jenova/Sephiroth don't need to breath. Force choke is useless.

Sephiroth only needs to use all the mental power he was using on Holy, against Nihilus. The End.

yea, but if nihilus does destroy seph's "body", would that count as a victory, since it took him about 2 years to come back??
force choke doesnt work?
would force crush, lightning, storm, TK uber "kills billions of people" talking or drain life work?

wow the incredible holy feat of holding a ball of energy, woopedy doodles, weve seen how lame his TK is on just 6 guys or so, or 5 and a red dog, whats he goign to do against a powerful Sith lord, hes going to be destroyed and douched considering what Madmel has said about the billions killed by TK, Sephiroth is nothing......Drain life is likely to send him into the 2 years reborn thing as well

Ivalice, You fail instantly for trying to insult.

Insulting shows intellectual bankruptcy, as well as yours just plain sucking.

Originally posted by Burning thought
wow the incredible holy feat of holding a ball of energy, woopedy doodles, weve seen how lame his TK is on just 6 guys or so, or 5 and a red dog

That's almost insulting the FF Characters. Now i know you wouldn't like it if i called Kain an over sized gremlin/human mutant, so don't do it.

My actual point is you all seem to have lost the plot. Force powers do not work on character not of the SW universe. Medichlorians do not exist outside of star wars, thus neither does the force.

Spoiler:
If the Force works on Sephiroth, then Lifestream corruption works on Darth Nihilus, thus Sephiroth automatically wins

Originally posted by EvilAngel

That's almost insulting the FF Characters. Now i know you wouldn't like it if i called Kain an over sized gremlin/human mutant, so don't do it.

My actual point is you all seem to have lost the plot. Force powers do not work on character not of the SW universe. Medichlorians do not exist outside of star wars, thus neither does the force.

Spoiler:
If the Force works on Sephiroth, then Lifestream corruption works on Darth Nihilus, thus Sephiroth automatically wins

no its not, i didnt even indirectly insult FF characters.....not at all....

well madmel seems to have some knowhow, so i say this, if what madmel says can be backed up against those who dont have mediclorians then Nihilias wins

no, how would lifestream corruption effect him anyway? how does that work? Nihilias can almost will it and Sephiroth seems to die through draining life and killing all those billions as madmel says with TK, how does lifestream corrupt work? sounds like something that has to touch you directly

Originally posted by Burning thought
no its not, i didnt even indirectly insult FF characters.....not at all....

well madmel seems to have some knowhow, so i say this, if what madmel says can be backed up against those who dont have mediclorians then Nihilias wins

no, how would lifestream corruption effect him anyway? how does that work? Nihilias can almost will it and Sephiroth seems to die through draining life and killing all those billions as madmel says with TK, how does lifestream corrupt work? sounds like something that has to touch you directly

Key words, Red Dog.

No he doesn't seem to know. He seemed to ignore that fact. If he kows let him post. But for now the point stands.

One Jenova cell gets near him, he's infected. Mass negative lifestream would make that exceptionally easy to do, would it not?

And ALL Nihilus feats are done through the force, which is invalid in this fight. As i said before thus i'm repeating myself; The only feats that matter are Nihilus's saber skill feats.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Have u even played FF7? He did it numorous times, and that was a WEAKER form of Sephiroth, genius.

Originally posted by Terryc250

Since when does DN = Cloud? Sephiroth wont be toying around with DH like he did with Cloud, he would instantly kill DH

If sephiroth can read minds and know all their next moves, why the hell was he toying with cloud if he knew by toying around, he would give cloud the upperhand and get himself killed in the process?

If he could actually do as what you claimed, he wouldn't have toyed with cloud. Get it? Or are you far too stupid to realise that?

You know why? Because your assertion is ridiculous, there is absolutely nothing to back it up, your making an unsupported claim.

Originally posted by Terryc250

How the hell is he going to escape a city sized NL? That Sephiroth can summon instantly.

Originally posted by Terryc250

How about the fact that DN cant defend against a ton of Sephiroths attacks, and the fact that Sephiroth is much faster.

have you forgot that powerful force users can generate a barrier that protects them from literally everything? The force, ships, steel, "sith magic" , blaster fire and so on?

Source: path of destruction, dark side source book dark empire source book and the essential guide to the force

Or the very fact that an average jedi rivals and prehaps even surpass sephiroth in sheer speed seeing that powerful users like palpatine and nihilus could move faster than the eye can see better known as rivaling the speed of light or being described as moving so fast that he looked like he was invisible?

Originally posted by Terryc250

Saying DN can just possess someone with as strong will as Sephiroth is foolish without any evidence

Originally posted by Terryc250

uhh your the one who started saying "boyfriend this and that" and "dick slide in mouth and that" all that disgusting shit, and i just told u to quit saying homosexual crap, and now u say "R U REALLY A HOMO!!?!??1" Wow.. just wow..

Originally posted by Terryc250

Uhh you said " I LOOOOVVE SYLAR"

you mean this?

"Oh? And what is that suppose to mean? I looooovvvveee sylar when im not even a fanboy of that character?"

It basically means just because i have an avatar of him, does it mean i love him which you tried to imply?

If you actually had the ability to comprehend which you clearly don't, i merely asked a question, notice the question mark behind that question?

Seriously learn to read you idiot.

Originally posted by Terryc250

What did i say that i cant back up? Tell me now and ill provide evidence

Originally posted by Terryc250

Wow are u crying? U seem to have alot of enmity towards me, did I hit a sensitive spot by calling u homosexual?

Again you calling me a homosexual doesn't make it so.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Ivalice, You fail instantly for trying to insult.

Originally posted by EvilAngel

Insulting shows intellectual bankruptcy, as well as yours just plain sucking.

Originally posted by EvilAngel

My actual point is you all seem to have lost the plot. Force powers do not work on character not of the SW universe. Medichlorians do not exist outside of star wars, thus neither does the force.

And when midichlorians do NOT exist in an object or being, they are not connected to the force. THAT does NOT mean they can't get affected by it seeing that droids,ships,concrete and steel are not connected to the force yet still get effected.

So yes, MY point is legimate, YOURS isn't.
Now shut up and quit making more unsupported biased claims.

Now WHERE was it stated that midi's exist only in living beings? Ever watched The phantom menace ? It was stated by qui going jinn during his conversation with anakin skywalker on corsucant.

Originally posted by EvilAngel

Spoiler:
If the Force works on Sephiroth, then Lifestream corruption works on Darth Nihilus, thus Sephiroth automatically wins

Originally posted by EvilAngel

No he doesn't seem to know. He seemed to ignore that fact. If he kows let him post. But for now the point stands.

Hell do you even know what midichlorians do? They merely generate and connects the organism to the force, midichlorians ALLOW the beings to command the force if they know how to use it.

Originally posted by EvilAngel

One Jenova cell gets near him, he's infected. Mass negative lifestream would make that exceptionally easy to do, would it not?

Or the very fact that nihilus could send a gesture and pull away all of sephiroths thoughts thus rendering all of his abilities useless?

Originally posted by EvilAngel

And ALL Nihilus feats are done through the force, which is invalid in this fight. As i said before thus i'm repeating myself; The only feats that matter are Nihilus's saber skill feats.

Originally posted by SHM

He will force choke a bunch of Jenova cells, because Seph already abandoned the body. Then it's Nihilus vs Negative Lifestream + powerful magic + powerful TK.

Your point is moot, the moment any opponent is killed physically in a 1v1 fight is counted as a loss

Originally posted by SHM

And even if Sephiroth is still using Jenova's body... Jenova/Sephiroth don't need to breath. Force choke is useless.

Originally posted by SHM

Sephiroth only needs to use all the mental power he was using on Holy, against Nihilus. The End.

Yeah, Thats the greatest thing ever. Have Nihilus "possess" Jenova's body. 😄
Seph toyed with Cloud because he wanted to torture him. When he knocked Cloud over, he could of killed him right there but just stabbed him in the arm instead. Cloud got his ass handed to him through out the fight.
Lol Palpatine being fast. Only time I've ever seen him remotley fast was when he jumped infront of the 3 Jedi.
What's Nihlius going to do? Lightsabre him? Seph's sword is made of pure lifestream and is indestrutable.
Don't get so angry over a thread.

Originally posted by Ivalice
Hey idiot, i wasn't "trying" to insult, i was [b]stating the facts if your actually smart enough to understand the term.

Oh? And that means? Again whats there to insult when its mere fact that he IS an idiot who makes claims which are unsupported?

Hey idiot, midichlorian exist in living organisms and not in droids and metal YET we see metal, droids and ships getting torn apart and destroyed by the force, so the force DOES work against out of SWU characters but hey you lose again ff7 fanboy.

And when midichlorians do NOT exist in an object or being, they are not connected to the force. THAT does NOT mean they can't get affected by it seeing that droids,ships,concrete and steel are not connected to the force yet still get effected.

So yes, MY point is legimate, YOURS isn't.
Now shut up and quit making more unsupported biased claims.

Now WHERE was it stated that midi's exist only in living beings? Ever watched The phantom menace ? It was stated by qui going jinn during his conversation with anakin skywalker on corsucant.

HAH anything to back up your point? I guess by your logic nihilus with the force wins by default. Just vice versa your ridiculous claim and you will see what i'm talking about.

No, your point does not stand at all nor do you even have a valid one nor do you have anything to back your stupid assertion, again the force effected droids when they do not contain midichlorians .

Hell do you even know what midichlorians do? They merely generate and connects the organism to the force, midichlorians ALLOW the beings to command the force if they know how to use it.

How is he going to get infected? Or have you forgotten DN's precognition?

Or the very fact that nihilus could send a gesture and pull away all of sephiroths thoughts thus rendering all of his abilities useless?
No, his feats ARE relevant as i have proven and you have not.[/B]

You start your post with "Hey idiot" and you're trying to say you don't mean to insult?

His claim are all valid in theory. That is the only flaw. You've never seen it, but it is all 100% correct in theory.

"Hey idiot" "Now shut up" Member bashing is against the rules. And you won't have any ones respect. Furion may make at times seemingly outrageous claims, but he never resorts to Petty name calling like you are.

Don't name call, it's not appreciated, it's uncalled for, and it isn't necessary

The killing technique Sevres the connection between the target and the force, that kills a being from SW.

In other universes no one is connected to the force so said technique will not work. The TK is done because their control over the medi's is such that they can use them to read their mind/movements hence the precognition. Again invalid vs a being outside the SW verse.

Push pull and crush work because they are physically using the force for an action, as you said that works on beings not connected. However since Sephiroth can fly, that take the use out of push, and limits pulls usefulness. And I've never seen Nihilus demonstrate the power to kill using crush.

Precognition is only useful if you can do something about it. What is it that Nihilus can do about the sky falling?

Though what proof is there you can use that power on none force connected beings?

And finally, my point about the lifestream existing if the force exists in Sephirorth is this:
If the force, the force exists in Sephiroth, then the Lifestream an omnipresent force in all living things (like the force in SW) in FF7 must azlso exists in Nihilus. This is not a one way street

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Key words, Red Dog.

No he doesn't seem to know. He seemed to ignore that fact. If he kows let him post. But for now the point stands.

One Jenova cell gets near him, he's infected. Mass negative lifestream would make that exceptionally easy to do, would it not?

And ALL Nihilus feats are done through the force, which is invalid in this fight. As i said before thus i'm repeating myself; The only feats that matter are Nihilus's saber skill feats.

he is a red dog isnt he? what would you call him, i cettainly would describe the thing with a tail a red dog.....whats he supposed to be?

"shrug" i dont know about Sith, i dont really care either way, i prefer a sith lord to win over Sephiroth, i dislike Sephiroth

Like, a giant red sabertooth..... red dog is like calling mandra a worm.

Alright, it looks like I need to clear up some shit said on this thread. \

Guess what? Droids don't have one atom sized spec of Midichlorians in them. How many times is a droid shattered by TK in SW? That's right, thousands. The only attack Nihilus can't affect Sephiroth with his his most uber technique, the one he kills planetlife with. Not like he needs it.

Intangible? Sephiroth can turn intangible only in FFVII with a body that wasn't even his, after that, he never showed the power.

I find it laughable that people here really think that Sephiroth can surpass any Sith in mind powers, let alone one of the powerful Sith like Sephiroth. Nihilus TKs entire starships, ripping them from the surface of planets, and holding it together in space, even hyperspace. He mentally controls his entire fleet and keeps them alive(so they don't need to eat). Nihilus did this all, even while weakened from hunger, and then was weakened again when he tried to drain Exile, and then, with all this going on, fought Exile, Visas Marr, and Canderous, and was WINNING. He did eventually fall though.

Nihilus can just shut down Sephiroth's feeble arrogant mind, or he can rip him to pieces.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Like, a giant red sabertooth..... red dog is like calling mandra a worm.

well thats being descriptive, hes still very canine and my description is no insult, hes still doggylike, just like i call Sin from FF10 whale, he just looks like one to me, its not meant to be insulting to it

Red XIII IS a red dog Evil Angel. He isn't a sabertooth, cause he, you know, doesn't have saberteeth. He is clearly canine in appearance and nature.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Red XIII IS a red dog Evil Angel. He isn't a sabertooth, cause he, you know, doesn't have saberteeth. He is clearly canine in appearance and nature.

What is your obsession with trying to irritate people?

He's very lion like, and Seto had big fangs.....

And he's not canine in nature, that's a giveaway you never paid the slightest attention to him in FF7, or you just never played, don't know, and are talking out your ass.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
What is your obsession with trying to irritate people?

He's very lion like, and Seto had big fangs.....

And he's not canine in nature, that's a giveaway you never paid the slightest attention to him in FF7, or you just never played, don't know, and are talking out your ass.

2. He is lionlike in some ways, but IMO seems to be predominantly canine.

3. And you said he's a sabertooth, despite the fact he doesn't look at all like one. He has dog paws for one.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
What is your obsession with trying to irritate people?

He's very lion like, and Seto had big fangs.....

And he's not canine in nature, that's a giveaway you never paid the slightest attention to him in FF7, or you just never played, don't know, and are talking out your ass.

If you can look at that and tell me that's feline rather than canine, you're even more shortsighted than I thought. Either that you appear to have mixed up cats vs. dogs.

Originally posted by DarkC
He is a canine in nature, any person with a pair of eyes could see that. Even a bit ursine.

If you can look at that and tell me that's feline rather than canine, you're even more shortsighted than I thought. Either that you appear to have mixed up cats vs. dogs.