Darth Nihilus vs. AC Sephiroth

Started by Ivalice12 pages
Ivalice Restricted

Originally posted by EvilAngel
You start your post with "Hey idiot" and you're trying to say you don't mean to insult?
Not an insult when its a fact.
Originally posted by EvilAngel

His claim are all valid in theory. That is the only flaw. You've never seen it, but it is all 100% correct in theory.
100%? As backed up by whom? As backed up by what? As stated by whom?

Everything he claims is absurd and ridiculous hence the neeed to "insult".

Originally posted by EvilAngel

"Hey idiot" "Now shut up" Member bashing is against the rules. And you won't have any ones respect. Furion may make at times seemingly outrageous claims, but he never resorts to Petty name calling like you are.
Firstly i'm not looking for respect, secondly please DO come down to the SWV and you will see that "insults" always take place.
Originally posted by EvilAngel

Don't name call, it's not appreciated, it's uncalled for, and it isn't necessary
It can be.
Originally posted by EvilAngel

The killing technique Sevres the connection between the target and the force, that kills a being from SW.
You seriously need to learn to read pal, where did i ever say nihilus will use his force severing technique on a NON force being when it would clearly never work?

Other force attacks will work but i never stated this one would seeing its nature of severing victims off the force.

Originally posted by EvilAngel

In other universes no one is connected to the force so said technique will not work.
WHERE did i say his force severing technique will work on sephiroth? Hell iv already stated it won't MONTHS ago.

Originally posted by EvilAngel

The TK is done because their control over the medi's is such that they can use them to read their mind/movements hence the precognition. Again invalid vs a being outside the SW verse.
Again its the force which allows them to read the minds of another opponent and not the midichlorians, how the HELL could they read the minds and for see the attacks of battle droids if your once again ridiculous assertion is actually true?

How do the jedi counter battle droids if they couldn't for see their attacks simply because they don't have midi's?

And who is it stated by that they can't use it against a being outside the force?

Originally posted by EvilAngel

Push pull and crush work because they are physically using the force for an action, as you said that works on beings not connected. However since Sephiroth can fly, that take the use out of push, and limits pulls usefulness. And I've never seen Nihilus demonstrate the power to kill using crush.
Oh? Crush is merely the highest level of force choke which nihilus has logically mastered seeing he mastered TK to a level where he could lift an entire ship.

Originally posted by EvilAngel

Precognition is only useful if you can do something about it. What is it that Nihilus can do about the sky falling?
He could kill sephiroth before sephiroth attempts to make the sky fall due to his precognition.

You would be an idiot which you clearly are if you think nihilus knows what his opponent is going to do yet do nothing before his opponent does so.

Originally posted by EvilAngel

Though what proof is there you can use that power on none force connected beings?
Again asking me for proof when the you prove up nothing, YOU made a claim, YOU did not back it up, the burden falls on YOU.

But hey its ok, ff7 fanboys never use logic so ill explain it to you one more time.

You claimed the force won't work on sephiroth because he does not have midi's.

Droids and metal don't have midi's yet they get torn apart and affected by the force.

And through that it IS logical to assume it works on non SW beings.

Originally posted by EvilAngel

And finally, my point about the lifestream existing if the force exists in Sephirorth is this:
If the force, the force exists in Sephiroth, then the Lifestream an omnipresent force in all living things (like the force in SW) in FF7 must azlso exists in Nihilus. This is not a one way street
Apparantly it is depending on the setting.

If this is the ff7 world then theres the planets lifstream, hell if this was in the SWV or any where else, which other planet contains the life stream hmmmmmmm?

Originally posted by Furion
Yeah, Thats the greatest thing ever. Have Nihilus "possess" Jenova's body. 😄
And how does jenova come in a 1v1 fight hmmm?
Originally posted by Furion

Seph toyed with Cloud because he wanted to torture him. When he knocked Cloud over, he could of killed him right there but just stabbed him in the arm instead. Cloud got his ass handed to him through out the fight.
And he does that despite him knowing the future as terry claimed? Huh.

Originally posted by Furion

Lol Palpatine being fast. Only time I've ever seen him remotley fast was when he jumped infront of the 3 Jedi.
LOL ever read dark empire son? Ever heard that in dark empire he could move in blurs and a speed which rivals the speed of light?
Originally posted by Furion

What's Nihlius going to do? Lightsabre him? Seph's sword is made of pure lifestream and is indestrutable.
Don't get so angry over a thread.
Dude iv been cool the entire time.

Dark-Jaxx Senior Member

Ivalice, you don't have to agree with them, I sure as hell don't, but don't get yourself banned.

Furion Restricted

I don't know when Terry said Seph can predict the future. Perhaps he meant he can guess people's moves sometimes by the way their body moves.
If Nihilus possessed Jenova's body, it would be the same as commiting suicide. Seph has control over all J-Cells. Nihilus would be completely under Seph's control.
So what. Seph can teleport.
Seph can simply TK Nihilus when the fight begins then just Sin Harvest him.

Dark-Jaxx Senior Member

Nihilus' TK is so much greater than Sephiroth's there isn't even a discussion over it. Nihilus can hold him in place and Force Crush his head.

Furion Restricted

He TKed about 5 or 7 people while he held back holy which is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nihilus.

Dark-Jaxx Senior Member

Originally posted by Furion
He TKed about 5 or 7 people while he held back holy which is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nihilus.
Nihilus TKed a fleet from the surface of a planet, holds one of the ships together during space flight and hyperspace. That>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sephiroth, plus there is no proof holding back Holy was TK.

Furion Restricted

Holy is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ships. Holy would destroy a planet in seconds. Seph held that back with his will alone while he was TKing 7 people.

Dark-Jaxx Senior Member

Originally posted by Furion
Holy is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ships. Holy would destroy a planet in seconds. Seph held that back with his will alone while he was TKing 7 people.
Hyperspace>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Holy. No proof he held back Holy with TK.

Furion Restricted

He held back Holy with his will alone.

Dark-Jaxx Senior Member

Originally posted by Furion
He held back Holy with his will alone.
Not TK. Nihilus kills planetary life with words.

Burning thought Restricted

theres no proof on Holy being difficult to control with TK at all, infact it could be easy, nobody else has tried to hold it back but he used Will Sephiroth did, but no ones will is on Sephiroths level or have much powers afaik

its still not good enough, Nihilias power is high

EvilAngel Over the hills
Originally posted by Ivalice
Not an insult when its a fact.

I stopped reading
I put Ivalice on my ignore list
I reported Ivalice.

I'm not debating with people who don't respect others

Where were you when your class studied biology?

The paws are feline, The tail is feline, the mouth is feline. Heck even the body build is feline.

He looks like a lion / panther crossbreed.

Dark-Jaxx Senior Member

The pic DarkC posted looks much different...

Furion Restricted

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Not TK. Nihilus kills planetary life with words.

Those people are connected to the force. Seph would blow up any planet in any galaxy with the lifestream.

EvilAngel Over the hills

You can't see most of him... and he's running... So that's of no surprise.

Dark-Jaxx Senior Member

Originally posted by Furion
Those people are connected to the force. Seph would blow up any planet in any galaxy with the lifestream.
And? It shows his power over it. He can do that while TKing his ship together, mind controlling his entire fleet, and keeping them alive. In terms of mental powers, Nihilus far outshines Sephiroth. Nihilus can kill people with his presence for God's sake.

Furion Restricted

That's because they're connected to the force. Outside of Star Wars, he isn't as strong.

Dark-Jaxx Senior Member

Originally posted by Furion
That's because they're connected to the force. Outside of Star Wars, he isn't as strong.
He only loses the power to use his greatest power on Sephiroth. He still mantains all his strength.

Lana mordrem

Okay, for starters, telling someone to shut up isn't bashing.

However, name calling is NEVER called for or acceptable on here.

If there's any more hostility in this thread it will be closed.

EvilAngel Over the hills

I feel the need to point out Ivalice is responsible for all hostility in this thread. It can all be traced back to him...