Trance Kuja vs. AC Sephiroth

Originally posted by UltimaKuja
This is AC sephy you bunch of F*CKs, not CC, FVII or any other version,

MEANING YOU CAN ONLY TAKE FEATS FROM THE MOVIE.

We take AC Sephiroth ABILITIES, meaning what he is capable of doing.

You don't see it in ac = it dont happen here, taking feats from other crap, LIKE YOU ARE, is the biggest waste of your time.

You bunch of bias b@stards, watch the movie then play FFIX, then do a comparison of the two chars based solely on THAT information, Kuja>>Sephiroth.

you dont know this? You more of a "Fu*king idiot" then me then. Go play the game moron.

Terry, your very good at manipulating what you want people to see, but you FAILED to prove anything i said WRONG.

Loose the 8yr old stubbornness please.

The explosion fully surrounded him, fully hitting him, with maximum force, you FAIL.

Sephiroth takes blasts from huge Dragons, Genesis, and Ifrit in his weakest form and does absolutely nothing to him.

Teleporting ain't ultima, FAIL. Speed blitz ain't in the movie, dont happen, FAIL. Barrier only blocks projectile attack, teleport works like flare, non-projectile like, YOU FAIL. Intangeable, not seen in the move, we are comparing sephiroth from the movie ONLY, YOU FAIL.

Its AC sephiroth from the movie only, dumbarse, Fail.
If he has power of it, WHERE IS IT IN THE MOVIE, IT ain't, STHU WITH YA SEPHY FANBOYISM. FAIL.

NL firstly is not exactly the same, other wise it would be called "lifestream" or "sephys lifestream", it has a different name completely for a reason.
Secondly, either post evidence of it being used in ANY offensive way in AC and ill concede your right, OTHERWISE STHU. YOU FAIL.

Basically like most of my post, i am fully correct, you say he can do all the stuff in a god like manner, yet he stands there like a turnip and gets OWNED, he DID NOT EVEN TRY OR GET THE CHANCE TO SAVE HIMSELF. Sephiroth is as weak or stupid as a Pansy, showing absolutely NO signs of self-presivation, compared to Kuja.
Kuja owns Sephiroth.

Strength and speed are two different things, i see ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE (IN THE MOVIE) THAT SEPHIROTH CAN INCREASE HIS SPEED. If he could ominislash would of been nothing.

I told you this already but as expected, your brain to forget already, Cloud caught him off guard, froze him in the air, and due to PIS purposes, it landed.

Loz what the fastest of the group, i dont remember all the remnants moving as fast as him, if anything its a loz feat, NOT a sephiroth feat, also EVERY TIME he moved that fast he was touching the thing on his arm, meaning he needed it to move that fast, YOU FAIL.

Loz had to touch his thing everytime he moved that fast? Uhh.. i bet you can't even show me ONE time he was holding onto his Dual Hound while moving fast.

ATTENTION: This is evidence of terrys crap argument to me, look at the response to the question, i dont understand how one can be so F*CKING DUMB.
Enduring attacks, such as Kuja enduring bahumuts mega flare, and becoming physically fatigued as in panting from being out of breath are two different things, YOU FAIL.

Endurance: The ability or strength to continue or last, esp. despite fatigue, stress, or other adverse conditions; stamina.

Next time, use the word:

Durability: able to resist wear, decay, etc.

From sephiroths feat in the movie, NOTHING leads me to believe Sephiroth can contain Kuja. FAIL.

ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE that sephy can dimensional teleport, Kuja teleports him and banished him to a new dimension. Kuja wins.

Sephiroth can infact instantaneously teleport, and is infact much faster then Kuja.

My point: Sephy cant even TK the sister rays blast which is weaker then holy. Sephirith did not have enough power to put up a second shield.

I said it before, but this time I really am going to stop debating against you, you refuse cannot admit that Kuja can't do anything against Sephiroths attacks, yet Sephiroth has many ways of evading Kuja's, so basically this is going no where.

It's embarassing debating against a stubborn little kid.. take my advice and grow the f*** up, either that or stop debating and come back after you're done elementary school.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Its funny that you would be the only one saying this, because you are obviously just mad that Kain gets curbstomped, and you got embarassed by getting wrecked.

lmao....dont lie, you never wrecked me any thread, please point out this "wrecking" ive smashed all your points, you just repeat them again as if you didnt read a post then find a gameplay video for proof lol

Well im done debating with a retard who cant defend against my points directly....

YOU PURPOSELY TAKE WHAT I SAY OUT OF CONTEXT, stupid little 7year old boy who dont understand.

Odin and destruct are given by sephiroth to cloud, one directly and one indirectly, i dont remember if there are any others. If you dont know a simple fact like this, why debate about the game?

You said sephiroth was inexhaustible, NOW you say he was so busy holding holy, if that is the case, he simply didn't have the tk strength, evidence to his limits.

Loz uses his thing on his arm to move at that speed, not freely of his own will, no other remnant was faster then cloud in ANY way, he was only overwhelmed in a 2 on 1 situation. If Loz can move that fast freely, as im sure you will argue, why after his armlet being destroyed did he not use his superior speed to avoid the blast set by reno and rude?

Kuja is directly inside the blast before he flies out on his dragon, meaning the attack DIRECTLY hit him, in ABSOLUTELY no case dose a summons attack miss.(Bahamut>>>Odin) Sephiroth has shown no feats to survive even Odin from FFIX. Thanks for adding the video, helps me more then you.

Before you start quoting about cloud not getting hurt by sin bahamut in AC, remember, he has help from the entire party, AS WELL as a dead ancient, Kuja survived single handedly.

Memoria IS a different dimension, it leads to crystal world, which don't exist on Gaia OR in that dimension. Show me sephiroth doing something like this please.

I never said sephiroth "LOST" his powers, you again trying to divert my point, this is what you see sephiroth do in the movie VS Trance Kuja, Sephiroth in the movie, admittedly, held back purposely, can you give an EXACT figure by how much? If not your guessing not debating, TRY AGAIN.

Kuja lost to the party in gameplay, further more final/semi final boss in FF are broken.

ALSO, the party did NOT kill him, he survived there attacks, he then survived ultima, still with enough energy to save everyone before then finally "dieing".

THAT IS WHY THE PARTY LIVE IN THE END DUMB SH*T, because Kuja SAVES THEM, however it IS a FACT he kills them ALL.
Where is Sephiroths feat to match?

Show me sephiroth with the level of endurance i have displayed for Kuja.
FFVII - Final form beat by party then INSTANTLY dies. (the final ominislash is in clouds head as people say, so that aint a feat).
FF:AC 1 Ominislash and he again INSTANTLY dies.

DONT F*CKING BELITTLE WHAT IM SAYING WITH YA "PIS" CRAP, sephiroth can either move so fast he can dodge it or he cant, OFFICIAL SOURCES (BEING THE MOVIE) SHOW HE CANT, STHU, YOU FAIL.

As i recall you saying sephiroth was stronger then any other version, fine.
BUT, where dose it say, apart from physically being stronger he retains ALL of his abilities. (NO SPECULATING, official source OR STHU, YOU FAIL)
Even should this be slightly wrong, where are they in AC?
Where in AC dose he use ANY of them?
Dont say its only cause its cloud, we already know that, but we also know they don't appear in AC AT ALL.

NL and normal are the same?
Lifestream destroys meteor.
NL at best covers a whole city, scaring alot of people, causing ZERO damage.
YOU FAIL.

FACTS ARE;
You can not prove Sephiroth > Kuja IN ANY F*CKING WAY, without quoting stuff outside of AC. YOU FAIL.

You repeat the same 'ol sh*t time and time again, to be honest how much of what i have said recently have you REALLY disproved to anyone else EXCEPT yourself?

I have proved Kuja can dimensional teleport people at will (WHEN HE WAS ALMOST DEAD AND OUT OF POWER), at full power, however sephiroth goes to what ever dimension Kuja wants and stays there because Sephiroth CAN NOT dimensional teleport.

You can NOT disprove my last comment in anyway, YOU FAIL, Kuja wins.

Only you cant seem to get it, is your pride in the way or something, learn English, learn how English people sometimes use words differently then how stated in the dictionary, then try and comprehend how i have won this battle.

Finally, although i have made a few grammar mistakes and spelling mistakes, that dose not automatically disprove what i have been saying. So, im not the worlds best speller = im wrong, in your eyes?

Go and debate in a more civilized way, in another thread, cause i win, kuja wins. You lose, sephiroth lose.

Originally posted by UltimaKuja

You repeat the same 'ol sh*t time and time again, to be honest how much of what i have said recently have you REALLY disproved to anyone else EXCEPT yourself?

although a lot of your words were harsh, perhaps overly harsh, this comment is very important because its one i find also, he doesnt disprove anything apart from in his own mind, then he carries on points he only feels are proven to himself as if his argumnet was correct from before, he just repeats things over and over no matter how badly his points have been broken

Allow me to say im sorry to all the innocent by standers that had to read my harsh words, however i felt the time for civilized posts, which i have done up to recently where no longer useful in silencing Terry.

All though i doubt i have heard the last from him, his fanboyism will make he respond eventually.

Hope i didn't offend anyone except who the post was aimed at.

Again, to anyone who was offended(not including sephy fanboys), i am sorry.

Originally posted by UltimaKuja
Well im done debating with a retard who cant defend against my points directly....

Odin and destruct are given by sephiroth to cloud, one directly and one indirectly, i dont remember if there are any others. If you dont know a simple fact like this, why debate about the game?

Like honestly, you obviously are making that stuff up and yet you say "if you don't know a simple fact like this, why debate about the game"?

You do realize you are wrong right?

You said sephiroth was inexhaustible, NOW you say he was so busy holding holy, if that is the case, he simply didn't have the tk strength, evidence to his limits.

Loz uses his thing on his arm to move at that speed, not freely of his own will, no other remnant was faster then cloud in ANY way, he was only overwhelmed in a 2 on 1 situation. If Loz can move that fast freely, as im sure you will argue, why after his armlet being destroyed did he not use his superior speed to avoid the blast set by reno and rude?

From the UOG translation

"-An in-universe explanation for why Loz often moves with a blue blur behind him is not given. It's simply said that because he's so big and bulky, they wanted to off-set his girth by making him look really fast and used the blue blur only for him to emphasise that he's fast. It's not suggested (despite how often people think so) that it has anything to do with his Dual Hound."

Meaning, despite what many of you people think (you) , its not suggested that Loz' speed has anything to do with his Dual Hound.

Kuja is directly inside the blast before he flies out on his dragon, meaning the attack DIRECTLY hit him, in ABSOLUTELY no case dose a summons attack miss.(Bahamut>>>Odin) Sephiroth has shown no feats to survive even Odin from FFIX. Thanks for adding the video, helps me more then you.

What feats does Bahamut have that puts him above Odin? Those blasts look like something the weakest incarnation of Sephiroth would brush off.

Before you start quoting about cloud not getting hurt by sin bahamut in AC, remember, he has help from the entire party, AS WELL as a dead ancient, Kuja survived single handedly.

I never said sephiroth "LOST" his powers, you again trying to divert my point, this is what you see sephiroth do in the movie VS Trance Kuja, Sephiroth in the movie, admittedly, held back purposely, can you give an EXACT figure by how much? If not your guessing not debating, TRY AGAIN.

Kuja lost to the party in gameplay, further more final/semi final boss in FF are broken.

ALSO, the party did NOT kill him, he survived there attacks, he then survived ultima, still with enough energy to save everyone before then finally "dieing".

THAT IS WHY THE PARTY LIVE IN THE END DUMB SH*T, because Kuja SAVES THEM, however it IS a FACT he kills them ALL.
Where is Sephiroths feat to match?

Show me sephiroth with the level of endurance i have displayed for Kuja.
FFVII - Final form beat by party then INSTANTLY dies. (the final ominislash is in clouds head as people say, so that aint a feat).
FF:AC 1 Ominislash and he again INSTANTLY dies.

Here is few DURABILITY feats of the WEAKEST version of Sephiroth

2:30, takes Genesis flares without any damage
YouTube video

6:20, takes a direct hit from Ifrit, then one shots him
YouTube video

3:40, Fights giant dragon, takes no damage(yes i know its gameplay but its canon to the story that they run into the dragon and fight, Sephiroth completely destroying it and amazing Cloud.)
YouTube video

00:38, brushes off an attack like nothing.
YouTube video

DONT F*CKING BELITTLE WHAT IM SAYING WITH YA "PIS" CRAP, sephiroth can either move so fast he can dodge it or he cant, OFFICIAL SOURCES (BEING THE MOVIE) SHOW HE CANT, STHU, YOU FAIL.

As i recall you saying sephiroth was stronger then any other version, fine.
BUT, where dose it say, apart from physically being stronger he retains ALL of his abilities. (NO SPECULATING, official source OR STHU, YOU FAIL)
Even should this be slightly wrong, where are they in AC?
Where in AC dose he use ANY of them?
Dont say its only cause its cloud, we already know that, but we also know they don't appear in AC AT ALL.

NL and normal are the same?
Lifestream destroys meteor.
NL at best covers a whole city, scaring alot of people, causing ZERO damage.
YOU FAIL.

It covered the SKIES as far as the eye can see, you can see the skies at mountains miles away from the city, in the battle you couldn't see any at all.

He didn't use NL to attack, COMPREHEND THAT.

FACTS ARE;
You can not prove Sephiroth > Kuja IN ANY F*CKING WAY, without quoting stuff outside of AC. YOU FAIL.

Now,

What can Sephiroth do against Ultima?
TK him,
Blitz him before he charges his Ultima,
Put up his barrier, then attack with the NL,
and others.

Sorry but Kuja loses

You keep saying "you fail, you fail, you fail" but the only things you've proved is that YOU failed elementary school.

Originally posted by Burning thought
although a lot of your words were harsh, perhaps overly harsh, this comment is very important because its one i find also, he doesnt disprove anything apart from in his own mind, then he carries on points he only feels are proven to himself as if his argumnet was correct from before, he just repeats things over and over no matter how badly his points have been broken

dont stamp your feet Terry.....ive lost nothing yet you began with nothing, so technically neither have you

I'm not the one thats getting upset haha, I'm not the one going around posting your name in different threads that have nothing to do with you trying to bash you in anyway I can, unlike some people rofl.

ime not bashing anyone.....ime pointing out important information in threads, highlighting

Ok, so what do you call this? I did not participate in that debate, yet you always had to speak my name out of no where, you're obviously an angry little child, who just can't get over Kain being so weak and thats why you have to go around bashing me in anyway you can.

Originally posted by Burning thought
yeh the great Fascist crusader has spoken! the master of debatorz that he has proven many times........

but ill have to disagree with him here, ill prob be outdebated seriously by his incredible skillz but i have to say, Negative lifestream is prob worth half a vial of the sunwell if that, let alone well of eternity

--This is the level Terry fails at

----this is the level you fail at...a good many degrees lower than Terry

"w8s for FC to do something childish like copy and pasting this and putting me even lower than him lol"

i was explaining FC weakness at debating, how else can i make it obvious too him how much he fails at it without using you?

although you can carry on your fairly amusing bashing if you want to.....and your lies

Thats called bashing me, your obviously just mad, but it's ok i understand.. you'll get over it one day.

no its not, infact i was sort of complimenting you at least putting you over FC.....

mad at what lol? at FC masterful skillz at debatoring!!! right....

now your baiting me however

How am i not? Everytime i reply, all i do is correct you, YOU on the other hand can't give any evidence or feats to prove Kuja can evade or do anything against Sephiroth.

Lmao, dimensional teleportation, im not boring people THAT ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND, unlike you, by repeating whats in my previous posts, you cant prove sephy can mount any defense, like i said, you fail.
TK wont stop teleportation.
Being fast wont stop the spell. Kuja Couldn't even see Zidane and the rest and he still teleported them, while he was close to death and almost powerless.
Barrier only blocks projectile attacks.
You Fail.

wow.. ok i don't want to debate against you, but can you stop saying nonsense?

Evidence of your lack of I.Q, nothing, almost nothing, i have said is nonsense, it might not be to your liking but its still final fantasy FACT.

Anyone who has played FF7 can probably remember that you get Odin from the shinra mansion in the safe, and destruct materia in mideel

-19 I.Q points for you.
In the basement of the mansion, sephiroth lobs a DESTRUCT materia at clouds groin area and cloud falls on one knee, Hence the directly giving cloud materia statement.

Odin was placed in the safe BY sephiroth.
Sephiroth leave a note FOR CLOUD, telling him how to open the safe, Hence the Non directly giving cloud materia statement.

You miss simple things like this and you want ANYONE to take you seriously?

LMAO.

"if you don't know a simple fact like this, why debate about the game"?
You do realize you are wrong right?

You actually said that to me, read above and feel the shame.

Sephiroth is inexhaustable in AC, because his body is 100% Jenova, in FF7 it wasn't.

No evidence that his TK abilities get stronger at all, he cant TK the Sister Ray because he has his limits, who are you to say that from what you see of his TK ability in AC he has enough power to hold a ultima beam.

Again show me the video, oh wait.. you cant because its not true.

Show you Loz and his lil brother getting blasted by TNT? its in the movie wise arse.

IN FACT, they got OWNED by one little TNT blast, only having enough power to come back and shoot cloud before dieing.
You wanted to bring the remnants feats into this, yet you missed this one.
FYI, MegaFlare>>>TNT bomb any day of the week.

Meaning, despite what many of you people think (you) , its not suggested that Loz' speed has anything to do with his Dual Hound.

Well if that information is 100% reliable and correct, fine.

Even still, no other remnant moves that fast, if they all remnants of sephy, they should all be able to move like that, yet that dont. Seems more to me like a feat Loz learned that the others didn't.

The blast did not DIRECTLY hit him, it hit around him, and he flew away from the fire aftermath.

Prove any summon up to that point miss. ANY summon in the final fantasy 1 - 9 universe.
Since i know you cant, the attack directly hits Kuja with full force.
He don't just stand there then get cold feet at the last second and run away, he stood firm till it hit then his dragon out ran the blast.

What feats does Bahamut have that puts him above Odin? Those blasts look like something the weakest incarnation of Sephiroth would brush off.

Are you playing retarded now?
Ultima > Flare.
Bahamut > Odin.
Both are well known and fully accepted FACTS. I hope any REAL final fantasy fans reading your post is laughing at you with me.
What are you proving except your fanboyism to sephiroth saying that weak sephiroth could brush them off.

Weakling Sephiroth got beat by cloud in VII AFTER he stabbed him, now he can suddenly walk through a mega-flare in IX?

You do know we are debating AC Sephiroth and not Cloud right?

The cloud point aside, THATS WHAT I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO TELL U ALL THIS TIME.
But, you don't take your own advise, you quote from everything EXCEPT FF:AC, which is what this is all about.

We don't know how powerful Sephiroth really is, but he is stated above beings like Chaos, Minerva, Omega, and those guys would give Kuja a run for his money as well.

A>B>C logic with absolutely no evidence except your word.
For the love of all that is holy leave any further argument about Kuja and them out of this thread.

Kuja lost to the party in the canon story, then Kuja threw a tamper tantrum and went all kamikaze.

EITHER WAY, my clearly unworthy foe, the point you want everyone to overlook is that Kuja actually survived the ultima blast, even after taking a pounding from the protagonist party.

It was NOT enough to kill him. I believe Sephiroth has not shown any endurance feats to even survive Ultima from the starting line, nether mind if he was already wounded.

if he kept fighting he would've died, he said something along the lines of "Well since I'm going to die, ill take you guys with me"

Ill say it again for you.
Kuja was referring to the time he has left, because of what ever Garland did to him.

Cool, Sephiroth would annihilate the FFIX party as well, its not that much of a feat.

Instantly dies? Sephiroth never truely dies, only his body does, Omnislash is a PIS move that would kill Kuja as well.

Yes he dose, after AC, there is no possible way for him to come back.
No more JENOVA head.
No more remnants.
His death is permanent.
The ONLY way to prove this wrong is if there is a AC 2 and sephy comes back AGAIN.

Now your saying cloud can kill Trance Kuja?

😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

Dose your hate for Kuja have no limits?

Here is few DURABILITY feats of the WEAKEST version of Sephiroth

2:30, takes Genesis flares without any damage

1) Again non AC related, irrelevant.
2) Ultima compared to "flare", HMMMMMMM nope dun quite cut it.
3) Thank you for again helping me;
No TK evidence.
No barrier evidence.
No NL evidence.
The point Fails.

6:20, takes a direct hit from Ifrit, then one shots him

3:40, Fights giant dragon, takes no damage(yes i know its gameplay but its canon to the story that they run into the dragon and fight, Sephiroth completely destroying it and amazing Cloud.)

O...M...G
Firstly it amazes cloud because at that time he is just some retard shin-ra guard, who has been weined on sephiroths legend.
Secondly, that dragon is not exactly on a different level to any other normal fiend in the game.
This did not even prove anything except how desperate you are. 😛

00:38, brushes off an attack like nothing.

No one suddenly loses all their abilities without any reason, he doesn't use anything in AC because he chose not to, does that mean he doesn't have it? No.

I have a pre-prepared reason, actually, sephiroth comes back in a remnants body, not his own, who are you to determine that his new body is capable of every feat he is capable of doing in his former body.
Yes, mentally he is the same person, but my point remains.
Furthermore, reasons aside, he did not use them anywhere in AC, Even when ominislash was set in motion, again, like i said, he either can or he cant avoid it with his speed, PERIOD.

NL is the same,

It covered the SKIES as far as the eye can see, you can see the skies at mountains miles away from the city, in the battle you couldn't see any at all.

He didn't use NL to attack, COMPREHEND THAT.

So his plan is to now....what? Scare the world to death by blocking the sun? Great plan!!

The fact he didn't use NL is my point too, it has never been used offensively, EVER. So, it dont happen in this battle, COMPREHEND THAT!

What can Kuja do against a speedblitz? Nothing..
What can Kuja do to protect himself from TK? Nothing..
What can Kuja do against when hes stuck in TK and the lifestream is coming at him? Nothing
What can Kuja do when he's trapped in TK and Sephiroth slices his head off? Nothing, except die.

I have never seen AC sephiroth perform a speedblitz, Point Failed.
The magnitude of sephiroths TK in AC is not anywhere near powerful enough to hold Kuja, Point Failed.
Lifestream don't exist in this battle. LOL Cloud fell in the lifestream, was he killed? was he annihilated? ZERO evidence it would even work on an Extra-Gaian, not native to the planet.

Now,

What can Sephiroth do against Ultima?
TK him,
Blitz him before he charges his Ultima,
Put up his barrier, then attack with the NL,
and others.

Sorry but Kuja loses

Barrier and NL AGAIN? SHOW ME EVIDENCE OF SEPHIROTH PREVIOUSLY USING THIS STRATEGY!!!

......no? Just as i thought, You Fail.

Originally posted by UltimaKuja
This is AC sephy you bunch of F*CKs, not CC, FVII or any other version,

MEANING YOU CAN ONLY TAKE FEATS FROM THE MOVIE.

You don't see it in ac = it dont happen here, taking feats from other crap, LIKE YOU ARE, is the biggest waste of your time.

You bunch of bias b@stards, [b]watch the movie then play FFIX, then do a comparison of the two chars based solely on THAT information, Kuja>>Sephiroth.

you dont know this? You more of a "Fu*king idiot" then me then. Go play the game moron.

Terry, your very good at manipulating what you want people to see, but you FAILED to prove anything i said WRONG.

Loose the 8yr old stubbornness please.

The explosion fully surrounded him, fully hitting him, with maximum force, you FAIL.

Teleporting ain't ultima, FAIL. Speed blitz ain't in the movie, dont happen, FAIL. Barrier only blocks projectile attack, teleport works like flare, non-projectile like, YOU FAIL. Intangeable, not seen in the move, we are comparing sephiroth from the movie ONLY, YOU FAIL.

Its AC sephiroth from the movie only, dumbarse, Fail.
If he has power of it, WHERE IS IT IN THE MOVIE, IT ain't, STHU WITH YA SEPHY FANBOYISM. FAIL.

NL firstly is not exactly the same, other wise it would be called "lifestream" or "sephys lifestream", it has a different name completely for a reason.
Secondly, either post evidence of it being used in ANY offensive way in AC and ill concede your right, OTHERWISE STHU. YOU FAIL.

Basically like most of my post, i am fully correct, you say he can do all the stuff in a god like manner, yet he stands there like a turnip and gets OWNED, he DID NOT EVEN TRY OR GET THE CHANCE TO SAVE HIMSELF. Sephiroth is as weak or stupid as a Pansy, showing absolutely NO signs of self-presivation, compared to Kuja.
Kuja owns Sephiroth.

Strength and speed are two different things, i see ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE (IN THE MOVIE) THAT SEPHIROTH CAN INCREASE HIS SPEED. If he could ominislash would of been nothing.

Loz what the fastest of the group, i dont remember all the remnants moving as fast as him, if anything its a loz feat, NOT a sephiroth feat, also EVERY TIME he moved that fast he was touching the thing on his arm, meaning he needed it to move that fast, YOU FAIL.

ATTENTION: This is evidence of terrys crap argument to me, look at the response to the question, i dont understand how one can be so F*CKING DUMB.
Enduring attacks, such as Kuja enduring bahumuts mega flare, and becoming physically fatigued as in panting from being out of breath are two different things, YOU FAIL.

From sephiroths feat in the movie, NOTHING leads me to believe Sephiroth can contain Kuja. FAIL.

Teleporting is NOT a speed feat, sephy cant move at "super speed" and teleport at the same time. FAIL.

ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE that sephy can dimensional teleport, Kuja teleports him and banished him to a new dimension. Kuja wins.

My point: Sephy cant even TK the sister rays blast which is weaker then holy. Sephirith did not have enough power to put up a second shield.

Your point: I cant think of anything FF:AC related so ima post nonsence to impress people.

SHUT
THE
YOU KNOW WHAT
UP

About non-AC feats and stuff. YOU FAIL.

Listen up grandpa, I DONT F*CKING CARE SEPHY WAS NOT TRYING, this is based on sephy from what we see ONLY IN AC YOU DUMB SH*T.
From every thing you see ONLY IN THE MOVIE, can anyone REALLY say he has surpassed Kuja in power or endurance?
TRY UNDERSTANDING THE POINT.

In your "Impressive response" as im sure it will be, either restrict your stuff to AC or get the F*ck out this thread and start a new one.
The most funny thing is, you was right, when i started this fight i was a complete noob at forum debating, but from what i have seen in these few short weeks i have surpassed you in debating skills, funny ain't it.

From what i have seen your not even worth my time and are not even a challenge anymore. If you want your response to be a sarcastic come back to what i just said, fine, YOU FAIL again. [/B]

Hell i'll admit i was like you but then i realised, what is the point of winning a debate? Whats the point of swearing and cursing and keep on arguing just to win one insignificant debate over fictional entities? Now if someone disagrees with me when i argue, i simply let it go, i find it pointless.

If terry does not agree with you then don't bother, its YOUR opinion and no one else would change it either way, it may sound stubborn but its simply being humble.

And i do want to apologise if i was mean earlier on bring harsh this and that.

The same message goes to you too terry. Hell you can ramble sephiroth > nihilus and i wouldn't bother anymore, i would just let you win.

Thats very admirable of you, i actually expected more flaming when i saw u made a post, im proud of you, non sarcastically speaking.

I also accept the apology, weather you mean it or not.

If i give up and stop debating, terry going to think he wins, im afraid i cant allow that. however if he wants to call it a stalemate accepting either can win, so will i.

Im not obsessed, just full of passion when it comes to this subject.

And im getting so heated cause terry is driving me mad 😠

BTW, was it necessary to make such a long quote? =/

he always thinks he wins regardless, even if you actually beat him so you waste your time 🙁

Originally posted by UltimaKuja
Thats very admirable of you, i actually expected more flaming when i saw u made a post, im proud of you, non sarcastically speaking.

Originally posted by UltimaKuja

I also accept the apology, weather you mean it or not.

Originally posted by UltimaKuja

If i give up and stop debating, terry going to think he wins, im afraid i cant allow that. however if he wants to call it a stalemate accepting either can win, so will i.

Im not obsessed, just full of passion when it comes to this subject.

Originally posted by UltimaKuja

And im getting so heated cause terry is driving me mad 😠

BTW, was it necessary to make such a long quote? =/