Trance Kuja vs. AC Sephiroth

Started by Pyron_Knight18 pages

God you Sephirtoh masamune suckers are a disgrace to the Final Fantasy franchise.

For starters Terry, if you knew a damn thing about the game you're debating, you'd know that Kuja orders his dragon to descend to make Brahne summon Bahamut...to give her a clear target.
Yes he was letting himself get hit. He did not flee from the blast. He got hit by it head-on LIKE HE PLANNED and his dragon just kept flying after being hit...that's all.
I've seriously heard this bullshit argument so many times it's as atrocious as Fascist saying Dante beats Pyron.

Second, Alexander doesn't have a feat on par with what Odin did...what is Alexander now weaker than Odin?
The ULTIMATE summon in FFIX weaker than Odin just because it didn't nuke anything?

Fact of the matter is Seph and no one in FFVII destroyed a planet. kuja did. Kuja > Sephiroth.

Get over yourselves. You're the joke of the internet. KMC Sephiroth is a massive laugh riot on multiple forums due to the blatant idiocy displayed in these and other threads.
Try to have some semblance of dignity and realize your precious idol is pathetic.

Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
God you Sephirtoh masamune suckers are a disgrace to the Final Fantasy franchise.

For starters Terry, if you [B]knew a damn thing about the game you're debating, you'd know that Kuja orders his dragon to descend to make Brahne summon Bahamut...to give her a clear target.
Yes he was letting himself get hit. He did not flee from the blast. He got hit by it head-on LIKE HE PLANNED and his dragon just kept flying after being hit...that's all.
I've seriously heard this bullshit argument so many times it's as atrocious as Fascist saying Dante beats Pyron.

Second, Alexander doesn't have a feat on par with what Odin did...what is Alexander now weaker than Odin?
The ULTIMATE summon in FFIX weaker than Odin just because it didn't nuke anything?

Fact of the matter is Seph and no one in FFVII destroyed a planet. kuja did. Kuja > Sephiroth.

Get over yourselves. You're the joke of the internet. KMC Sephiroth is a massive laugh riot on multiple forums due to the blatant idiocy displayed in these and other threads.
Try to have some semblance of dignity and realize your precious idol is pathetic. [/B]

But Sephiroth was holding back against Cloud and the creators of FF7 said there is nothing about Sephiroth and Sephiroth can control the lifestream and perform any attack he wants including limit breaks and he's so uber powerful that he couldn't he defend himself against Cloud's omni-slash and if you haven't figured it out with that I'm joking because Sephiroth is a little momma's boy who'll get pwned by Trance Kuja and his Ultima attack.

Before Kuja ends charging his Ultima, Sephiroth already killed him.

Sorry Kuja fanboys.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
because Sephiroth is a little momma's boy

And this is the proof of how biased you are. This is why we cannot take you seriously.

KMC Sephiroth is legendary. He doesn't lose.

Originally posted by Keollyn
KMC Kain is legendary. He doesn't lose.

Fixed for you.

Ah, and Keollyn/ESB -1138/Pyron_Knight(Nikkolas)/Burning Thought Sephiroth loses to everyone in fiction. 🙄

SHM, those look remarkably like personal attacks. Do you need a warning?

Originally posted by General Kaliero
SHM, those look remarkably like personal attacks. Do you need a warning?

I'm just stating the fact that some people here are biased. Calling someone "biased" don't seem like a personal attack/insult to me.

I mean, some of those guys already called me a fanboy, idiot, etc. and I didn't saw any Moderator giving them warnings.

Oh, just knock it off.

And you do not argue publicly when you are told to do or don't do something.

If the Moderators want to give me a warning, fine. But at least lets be fair:

Pyron_Knight in his last post on this thread
You're the joke of the internet.

It looks remarkably like a personal attack. Why not give him a warning too? 🙄

Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
Fact of the matter is Seph and no one in FFVII destroyed a planet. kuja did. Kuja > Sephiroth.

Get over yourselves. You're the joke of the internet. KMC Sephiroth is a massive laugh riot on multiple forums due to the blatant idiocy displayed in these and other threads.
Try to have some semblance of dignity and realize your precious idol is pathetic. [/B]

... Try to comprehend this please.

Ultima - destroyed surface of Terra
Holy - capable of destroying Gaia

Holy was stopped and unable to do anything against Sephiroth.

Sephiroths willpower stopped Holy.

"Sephiroth's existence and will is very strong. There is nothing stronger, nothing above him."

Sorry, but Sephiroths willpower is just that strong, most likely Ultima wouldn't do that much better.

Also the fact that Sephiroth is far faster then anything Kuja has ever shown

And the fact that he can instantly stop Kuja in his tracks before Kuja can even try to charge an Ultima.

If Sephiroth had goals to destroy Terra, Terra would also likely meet the same fate, who would stop him?

Ultima - destroyed surface of Terra
Holy - capable of destroying Gaia

Wrong.
Ultima - Destroyed Terra.
Holy - Never destroyed anything at all.

Holy was stopped and unable to do anything against Sephiroth.

So it can't destroy Sephiroth thus rendering your previous statement of it can destroy anything on Gaia invalid.

Also the fact that Sephiroth is far faster then anything Kuja has ever shown

Well Kuja beat a giant airship back to another planet and had enough time once getting there to screw around in the iifa Tree and then still had time enough to get to the Crystal.

If Sephiroth had goals to destroy Terra, Terra would also likely meet the same fate, who would stop him?

Garland and the Invincible. Cloud's Omnislash <<<< what we know the Invincible can do.

Ah, and Keollyn/ESB -1138/Pyron_Knight(Nikkolas)/Burning Thought Sephiroth loses to everyone in fiction.

Not true. Stop making up things.

Also SHM, I guess you're Xenogears. Since you insist on insulting me baselessly about being a sock, I'll return the favor.

The problem that I have with Sephiroth is that we do not know the full strength of Sephiroth at this very moment. I actually thought that AC Sephiroth was Sephiroth utilizing his full potential, however after reading the SquareEnix interview of how they've stated very clearly that Sephiroth not once had ever shown his full power during any of the events that's taken place within the world of FF VII leaves me in thought.

It shouldn't even be a debate, Sephiroth's willpower>>>>>>Kuja's, that much is certain, he's survived death how many times now? You just simply can't kill this guy at all, no matter what you do.

For me, it's actually a toss up here, I actually won't pick a who will outright win. Kuja has been displayed at his full potential/power, Sephiroth on the other hand has not, so his full power and limit of his abilities at this very moment is completely in the air.

Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
Wrong.
Ultima - Destroyed Terra.
Holy - Never destroyed anything at all.

No, you're wrong.

Ultima - Destroyed the [b]SURFACE of Terra.
Holy - Destroyed Meteor, and is capable of destroying Gaia, as stated in-game.


So it can't destroy Sephiroth thus rendering your previous statement of it can destroy anything on Gaia invalid.

...That makes no sense because Sephiroth is NOT Gaia, nor is his willpower Gaia.

If a huge planet-destroying meteor came to destroy the planet, but scientists built a sister-ray-like canon to blow up the meteor before it hit, does that make the meteor incapable of destroying the planet? No, its still capable , it was just stopped before it could.


Well Kuja beat a giant airship back to another planet and had enough time once getting there to screw around in the iifa Tree and then still had time enough to get to the Crystal.

Show me Kuja instantly teleporting in battle, or moving fast in combat speed.


Garland and the Invincible. Cloud's Omnislash <<<< what we know the Invincible can do.

Thats just a bias opinion, because no one knows how powerful omnislash is, its just a PIS move.

It isn't sad that most of Kuja's fanboys doesn't know what a speedblitz is?
This is why they are still arguing here.

Ah, and some of them assume that Kuja can instantly teleport, just because he opened a portal to another dimension and entered it. God, they don't even know what "instantly teleport" is.

And then, there are the most ignorant fanboys, who claims that he can instantly teleport, just because they watched him using the teleport machine of his Desert Palace.

...That makes no sense because Sephiroth is NOT Gaia, nor is his willpower Gaia.

lol

YOU SAID:

"Holy - capable of destroying Gaia"

Which I just realized is more crap since the quote actually only says it can destroy anything on Gaia, not Gaia itself.

The rest is just gibberish. SHM, Terry, you both need to learn how to debate and stop being the laughing stock of this and every other forum on the internet.

"He only destroyed the surface!" Of course you can't prove this, you won't prove this and you fail at every attempt to prove this. He destroyed a planet and that's all we know. Saying he only destroyed the surface is nothing more than your baseless, worthless opinion.

And Crystal, drop the superiority act. You're the biggest fanboy here.

Silly Nikk. I've already explained this to you, Kuja merely took out the towns on the surface of Terra. He simply isn't strong enough to take out an entire planet like Sephiroth in AC can. 🙂

Silly Xenogears. Your stupid theories don't mean a thing on these forums because we debate facts, not what you think.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
He simply isn't strong enough to take out an entire planet like Sephiroth in AC can. 🙂

Really? From the way I understood, he was going to use the NL to directly "attack" the rest of the normal Lifestream. Only after corrupting the entire planet, he would be able to "destroy" it(transform it in a vessel).
He didn't have the power to destroy the world at that moment yet.

Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
lol

YOU SAID:

"Holy - capable of destroying Gaia"

Which I just realized is more crap since the quote actually only says it can destroy anything on Gaia, not Gaia itself.

The rest is just gibberish. SHM, Terry, you both need to learn how to debate and stop being the laughing stock of this and every other forum on the internet.
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.. You do know you are the one getting owned? Thats why you resort to attacking personally, I don't care though.. I'm here to debate, not have a flame war.

the quote just said "everything".


"He only destroyed the surface!" Of course you can't prove this, you won't prove this and you fail at every attempt to prove this. He destroyed a planet and that's all we know. Saying he only destroyed the surface is nothing more than your baseless, worthless opinion.

And Crystal, drop the superiority act. You're the biggest fanboy here.


Can't prove it? Watch the video, the surface was destroyed, why should we assume that it blows up? Baselessly "assuming" that the planet blew up without any proof or anything even suggesting that it might have happened is just plain idiocy.

Terry, why are you wasting your time with a pedo that is already perma-banned from here(and many other forums across the internet)? Just do like me... Ignore the troll and all his multiple accounts.