Yoda versus Dumbledore (the Force versus Hogwarts magic)

Originally posted by Silent Master
I never said that Yoda would crush his organs, you however have said multiple times that Dumbledore would use the Avada Kedavra and Cruciatus curses.

So, post the video clips of him doing so.

You actually did you said it's simple telekenisis in one of your post but I get your point to why he wouldn't use the unforgivable curses since we don't see him explicitly use the curses I concede on that point but still what's to stop dumbledore from using any other spell he has and you are downplaying dumbledore you are basically saying that because we don't see him use stupefy he can't use it because we don't see him use expulso he can't use it well as a matter of fact he can because in his deul with voldemort he used expelliarmius which means he is not above using simple spells which he will use so don't try and get me on that fromt since we see him using a simple spell like that this means that he would use spells like stupefy and expulso with expulso being able to travel faster than yoda can jump and that spell that can travel faster than yoda can move and would tear him apart as seen in the MOVIES also dumbledore was the teacher of transfiguration and head of the transfiguration department for x amount of years so he knows a lot of transfiguration spells that he would use against yoda and some are faster than yoda can travel which is proven by Sirius black in prisoner of Azkaban

No, I actually never said that Yoda would crush Dumbledore's organs, you're making things up.

Now I can easily post clips where Yoda uses TK or speed, so how about you finally answer my question about what Dumbledore is going to do when Yoda tk's his wand and speedblitzes him.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
You poor poor thing if it's facts said from the author and producer it would hold the same way mixed in with what you already know so say you went somewhere and told somebody something about yoda vs sidious for example you would take the narration from Lucas combined with your experience so if you told Lucas that he would probably say yes that's correct so yes they do count and they do hold weight

OH MY OH MY OH MY you have just showed me that you are so freakin retarted ok you have conceded to accepting the dooku commentary now I'm not going to read the rest of that second paragraph after the any way shape or form because of that sentence is wrong then the rest is that duel explicitly translates you know for a fact that sidious wanted anakin to be his apprentice and Lucas says that that duel was the FIRST TEST FIRST MEANING MORE THAN ONE AMD THE SECOMD WAS HIS DEUL WITH SIDIOUS ok think about it he test anakin to see if he is worthy of being his apprentice seeing if he has the capacity to kill and now then he goes on and tells anakin about the plaguis story about how he could save padme and how you can't learn it from a Jedi ok now he's planted the seeds for anakin to become his apprentice then he explicitly tells anakin he is was the sith apprentice meaning that he knows how to save padme and then he turns around and ask anakin "are you going to kill me" anakin replies " I would very much like to" but he doesn't this shows that he wants to use palpatine to save padme or learn his abilities in order to save her and then palpatine says " I can feel your anger and turmoil" which means he can sense anakin said conflict and so anakin then tells windu and the others and sidious is ready now here is where separation is whether sidious knew he was coming from the get go or not however it doesn't matter as windu knew from a mile away so with that sidious,would to,as he is a greater force weirder and also if you tell so,some that you can save their wife and he leaves you alive that means he wants to use you that means he wants you alive and after he goes tell people and hey go and try to kill u you will go back to save that person and sidious is,smart he knows things he a politician for a freakin living he does stuff like this all the time example anakin vs dooku voila it all ties in together so he knows anakin will come and when he does he needs to look like he needs help as to officially turn because once you do a bad deed like anakin you don't go back as seen in ROTS so he needed him to do a deed such as that to prove his loyalty so all of this ties in with the battle with dooku of you try to refute this I will die laughing

Well I don't watch boxing as I am not a sport fan nor it just seems pointless so I just deal with the straight Star Wars and you deal with the facts so let look at the facts shall we have someone(yoda) who can beat windu with probable ease of he can do that against dooku who is basically either dead even or slightly superior to windu so how in the world do those things allow windu to win against so,done better than dooku and even with yoda where is the logic yes you are correct overall yoda is better so how in the world do u determine that windu stacks up better how,do you figure if you say that yoda is better how I don't get that if someone is better than the other than they win ok to put it in a way you would understand sidious=yoda>dooku>windu or sidious=yoda>dooku=windu either way sidious is better and then he couldn't beat him at all it was a stalemate and again the overpower part is the fact that sidious was disarmed that is a commonly used phrase now in the potter universe in harry potter Rowling says that Draco overpowered dumbledore yet dumbledore is exceedingly more powerful than Draco or an example more to your liking in HPDH part 1 Draco is " overpowered" by Harry yet Draco is more skilled and powerful than Harry you see that is a vague designation with many definitions so therefore with this one means nothing so STOP USING IT AS EVIDENCE for this argument and the thing with your analogy is they cannot move their physical abilities to near heights as yoda and sidious so that's a non valid point so I think it's now game over for you

yeah I give up, you just don't get it and have no idea what facts or conjecture are. You feel your views on other non related scenes trump that of the Writer, Director, Producer etc etc... I couldn't disagree more. They stated their feelings and windu won. Period. Live with that reality

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
yeah I give up, you just don't get it and have no idea what facts or conjecture are. You feel your views on other non related scenes trump that of the Writer, Director, Producer etc etc... I couldn't disagree more. They stated their feelings and windu won. Period. Live with that reality

Yea should give up its no way you counter my points but before we get back to the original topic you have contradicted yourself if you admit that all I say is true and no way of countering yourself and repeatedly use the overpowered commentary as evidence we all know he was disarmed but that doesn't mean he was honestly defeated as if he Lexi himself to the wimdow as he is a smart cookie he would know that he would have to lower his speed since he has good awareness so yes you have been beaten since you can't counter mine and I definitely can counter yours so with all that out of the way let us get back to the task at hand DUMBLEDORE VS YODA and before you reply read previous comments about that before you answer and as a side note

I'm not saying that was I say is true but if the writers commentary and my experience mixed together I'm not saying that it holds Lucas weight but it does hold weight since its LUCAS COMMENTATY added with my own experience of Star Wars and you just don't have the stomach to handle his facts as I also use inferences as well as just facts while you only use facts branch out man it can only help and if you could answer these,two final questions if you would

1. WHY DO YOU FIND IT SO HARD TO BELEIVE SIDIOUS THREW THE FIGHT
2. IF LUCAS SAID NOTHING AT ALL WOULD YOU BELEIVE THAT SIDIOUS,DID THROW THE FIGHT OR WOULD YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT WINDU WON TRUTHFULLY

Okay, seriously, quote me properly and use ****ing grammar, because your posts are a complete eyesore

We'll see you and others would be what most people call a hypocrite as you consistently say that yoda will speed blitz dumbledore and take his wand when I have countered both so aren't you a fanboy sense you say the same thing consistently and I say mine over and over because no one has countered it

You never countered a damn thing, you ignore it an stonewalled the opposition with the same kneejerk HP fanwank

Example, unless Dumbledore can move at massively hypersonic speeds or so then he'll be lucky to form a thought before Yoda force crushes him

Let me ask you, could Dumbledore or anything in Harry potter react to say, a railgun shell if it was fired at them? Or an ICBM?

If you have feats suggesting he can? I'd be trilled to concede this point

Otherwise? Just get the **** out you god damn dipshit

You should take your own advice because I've debunked yours all the way while you have avoided mine. So aren't you a troll?

Aww look kids, a "no u" retort, isn't that original?

It's still a dark side ability that's like saying it's simple since yoda can already use tutamintis he should be able to produce real lightning it's a dark side ability so he can't use it

It's simple telekinesis regardless of what EU bullshit said about "force techniques"or whatever

I know you don't care about my evidence and actually it's hard to say unimpressive when most of the stuff HP Star Wars can't do

Oh? So Harry Potter characters can (without going into the EU super feats bullshit) attacks and communicate with eachother across lightyears of space, outfight massively hypersonic fighter droids, tear apart the armor of cyborgs and perform several hundred meter+ jumps, tank being next to explosions and falling several kilometers onto a speeding vehicle, move multiple Senate Pods, see into the future in the heat of battle and sense the presence of evil

Please tell me more

Most of the stuff Star Wars can't replicate are just utilarian spells which operate on too small a scale to matter against most characters of note

Did the person who made this say anything about no normal functions of the characters

Unwritten rule is that unless stated otherwise, CIS does not apply, or at least it shouldn't

but if we go with what you say dumbledore can use spells that pump him up to superhuman levels of the like of Darty vader and speed of yoda sounds ridiculous right

Feats or GTFO

but we have never seen him do it but there's probably a spell that does it but we have never seen it so

Yeah, if it doesn't exist, then this counts as much as tea and biscuits

But really, this is just desperation, now you're just making up abilities for Dumbledore while denying Yoda's feats

Actually he has did you not read the book and we see him at the end of the movie use a transfiguration on hundreds of shard of glass that turn them into sand so what makes you think he can't turn yoda into sand the first go around or use transfiguration spells that he used in the book

Cool, now show me where uses vines (though really, not seeing why a lightsaber wouldn't shred them to confetti), or the unforgivable curses

And he won't because Yoda kills him before he can think

Are you sure you want to play this game since you haven't answered any of my post so you may try agin

You are in no position to act condescending

I've pretty much crushed your speed blitzing

Except that you didn't

and I've almost crushed the wand thing

Yeah, I never argued that (though it's prolly a very valid tactic, tbh)

Actually Harry Potter as of now has superseeded Star Wars and is the number one movie franchise of all time making more money than Star Wars thus having more people see it more it has also gone world wide and has inspired so much so it's the king of fiction while Star Wars is a TYPE OF FICTION WHILE HARRY POTTER IS THE FICTION so sit back relax and take your loss or come up with something better since you can't counter mine at all while the I'm steadingly countering and crushing yours and if you saw the video of both 😂 for first and now you have seen him use the " obscure spells" and remember half blood prince he used a firestorm

Oh **** me are you a quanchi sock?

I said nothing about box office or whatever dipshit, I was referring to power of verses, which Harry potter ranks very low on the totem pole, lack of superhuman stats, major DC feats and hax that isn't all that special by fictional standards. To say nothing of the age old "human with a shotgun has a 50-50 chance of killing a wizard"

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Okay, seriously, quote me properly and use ****ing grammar, because your posts are a complete eyesore

You never countered a damn thing, you ignore it an stonewalled the opposition with the same kneejerk HP fanwank

Actually I have countered it you just don't accept it I have given you facts from books and movies and I have given you opposition based on facts and all the spells I say dumbledore can do are spells he can do reasons for transfiguration,
1. Trained Mcgonagall who is one of the most powerful transfiguration teachers ever
2. Made exceeds expectations or outstandings on his OWLS and NEWTS meaning he was a childhood prodigy
3. Used extreme transfiguration during his battle with voldemort
Also expulso does exist as seen in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1

Example, unless Dumbledore can move at massively hypersonic speeds or so then he'll be lucky to form a thought before Yoda force crushes him

Ok let me ask you did in all of Star Wars all yoda has had to deal with were droids who couldn't aim and shoot lasers, now get a person who can shoot with even a pistol yoda wouldn't be able to jump before the bullt pierced his small body and now you admit you think yoda can use force crush well he can't it's a dark side ability and yoda can't do any dark side abilities and the time it would take for yoda to lift his arms to do this dumbledore would have shot a spell or curse at him possibly winning the match and so unless yoda can move faster than the bullet he's got nothing but neither does dumbledore either so stalemate at the bullet point

Let me ask you, could Dumbledore or anything in Harry potter react to say, a railgun shell if it was fired at them? Or an ICBM? We'll see from what I've read unless yoda can move faster than 13,400 mph+ I don't think he could but if you mean like reaction like if you just react than yes he can and I can give a spell and a feat of when dumbledore used this spell its called arrestso momentum which would stop the ICBM in its tracts but if you mean like right on him I he might be able to but yoda would also be in question now sir since you want to get all not Pickey show a clip of yoda moving faster than that or dumbledore could just disapparate out of the way so yes he can react but again I don't think yoda could now provide with a feat from the movie that yoda can move faster than 13,400 miles per hour

If you have feats suggesting he can? I'd be trilled to concede this point

I actually do https://youtu.be/gEUF87lqdUo dumbledore could have apparated there went to the local pub got himself a nice brandy went to slug horns house did all he did then went back to that same spot and apparated out before the ICBM hit and also in the sixth movie Half blood prince he apparated himself and Harry to a place of unknown but most likely great distance from hog warts in a matter of seconds that's fast yoda couldn't run or fly or do anything to beat dumbledore there now I doubt yoda could achieve this speed so I'll take your concession on this point and also if you could post a clip from the movie that shows yoda moving faster than 13,400mph

Otherwise? Just get the **** out you god damn dipshit

Aww look kids, a "no u" retort, isn't that original?

It's simple telekinesis regardless of what EU bullshit said about "force techniques"or whatever

Well um George Lucas has made it quite clear I would BELEIVE that yoda can't use dark side abilities as that aside from obi wan he has to be the purest Jedi of the old republic meaning that he is the avatar of light basically and the avatar of light can't use dark side abilities the only individuals who can use those types of abilities are Mace Windu, Anakin Skywalker, and Plo koon. Yoda is not one of those few as he does not go near the dark side like mace windu, he is not the chosen one like anakin, and he apparently was not in a situation like plo where he would need to use electric judgement so he can't and force crush is a dark side ability so he can't crush dumbledore he does not know how to use that ability

Oh? So Harry Potter characters can (without going into the EU super feats bullshit) attacks and communicate with eachother across lightyears of space, outfight massively hypersonic fighter droids, tear apart the armor of cyborgs and perform several hundred meter+ jumps, tank being next to explosions and falling several kilometers onto a speeding vehicle, move multiple Senate Pods, see into the future in the heat of battle and sense the presence of evil

When did yoda do that when did he talk to someon light years away because obi wan dead and the dead exist everywhere so not a light years feat and not battle applicable as dumbledore can block out telepathy when has yoda done that either now if it's in TCW I'll have find the episode because I've seen every episode now the tearing apart it's called reducto bombarda or bormbada maxima and jumping hundreds plus meters well it called apparition thank you very much as in order of the Phoenix the members of the order jump from spot to spot even going around the entire room in a matter of seconds yoda has never tanked an explosion now the future preconigtion has its limits of that we're the case he would taken out palatine already and destroyed if he knew the future but limits and palatine stahed around yoda constantly so how in the world did he sense evil how can he sense it when he can't sense it when it's 2FEET IM FROMT OF HIM PLEASE TELL ME HOW HE SENSED DARKNESS

Please tell me more

Most of the stuff Star Wars can't replicate are just utilarian spells which operate on too small a scale to matter against most characters of note

Comsidering the fact that Harry Potter takes place on earth and depart need to move that's why the operate on a smaller scale compared to galactic wide Star Wars yet dumbledore could still beat the pants of yoda

Unwritten rule is that unless stated otherwise, CIS does not apply, or at least it shouldn't

UNWRITTEN RULE if it's not written then how can it be known to apply and sense it unwritten it is not in fact an actual rule to apply and you trying to take the books away from Harry Potter is getting on my nerves since the books are the main cannon of Harry Potter so I will use the books and movies and Internet research however it suits the argument

Feats or GTFO

Please if it exist in the potter world unless it pure dark energy dumbledore can do it so screw that if dumbledore wants to use the unforgivable curse he freakin can if dumbledore wants to blow yoda to smitherins he can if he freakin wants to if dumbledore wants to blast yoda with a stun spell he can if he FREAKIN WANTS TO he knows every single spell so why in the world would you say I need a clip to see if it's true when he has used one before he can use all three if he wants to alright deal with

Yeah, if it doesn't exist, then this counts as much as tea and biscuits

Expulso exits rewatch Harry Potter and the deathly Hallows part 1 and look up the spell expulso

But really, this is just desperation, now you're just making up abilities for Dumbledore while denying Yoda's feats

Every spell i say with the exception of the the bolstering physical spell all the others are real and I can show you a sight where most of the spell are and you will see why dumbledore will triumph under all of these spells yoda got nothing

Cool, now show me where uses vines (though really, not seeing why a lightsaber wouldn't shred them to confetti), or the unforgivable curses

Oh my how many times do I have to say it yoda doesn't have his lightsaber since the creator of this thread said no lightsaber none just magic vs the force ok you want clips I'll give you clipse for https://youtu.be/Th_SVESxnn0 and https://youtu.be/aJs3kDxpHxA these both prove my point

And he won't because Yoda kills him before he can think

Like I said post clips from the movies that show that yoda can move fast enough to where education,bled precast react show me show me and dumbledore can think pretty fast and as seen in his deul with voldemort can do spells instantaneously all his spells with the exception of the last one taking no time to do

You are in no position to act condescending

I am in a great high spot to be condescending as you have no way to debunk me look man you have been debunked your argument has been debunked so just leave goodness

Except that you didn't

I've countered your speed blitzing argument reread our comments

Yeah, I never argued that (though it's prolly a very valid tactic, tbh)
Don't know what this is but you never argued it so I guess I won't worry about it

Oh **** me are you a quanchi sock?

I said nothing about box office or whatever dipshit, I was referring to power of verses, which Harry potter ranks very low on the totem pole, lack of superhuman stats, major DC feats and hax that isn't all that special by fictional standards. To say nothing of the age old "human with a shotgun has a 50-50 chance of killing a wizard"

So with a Jedi since bullets move faster than Jedi can think and this is about yoda vs dumbledore whose abilities are narrow since all he has is telekenisis since all his other abilities are non valid like telepathy battle meditation battle mind and any of that other stuff and dumbledore can match and possibly over power yoda with his variety of spells and magnitude and also I'm tired of you saying just because we don't see dumbledore use a spell means he can't when evidence points to the contrary so stop it

Too bad that Dumbledore is getting his wand tk'd and then speedblizted.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Too bad that Dumbledore is getting his wand tk'd and then speedblizted.

Concession accepted

Also to bad yoda get turned into a teapot or a grain of sand or anything dumbledore chooses

Except Dumbledore can't do that since Yoda has already tk'd his wand and speedblizted him.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Too bad that Dumbledore is getting his wand tk'd and then speedblizted.

Ok dumbledore wouldn't get his wand taken immediately this is proven by in season 6 The Disappeared Part 2 of TCW when a SMAL CHILD took maces lightsaber and after that mace attmpted to use the force to get it but the child held on to it and considering that a lightsaber weights more than a wand it wouldn't be far fetched for dumbledore to be able to hold on to his wand and shoot a spell which would break yodas concentration its either that or he get exploded

BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE 💃

So your argument for a tk'd wand has been debunked and so has the speed blitz so dumbledore wins 💃

Yoda can lift multiple tons with his tk, there is no way that Dumbledore could keep hold of the wand, thus he gets his wand tk'd and speedblitzed.

Sidious, how do you keep this up?

He just spouts nonsense and then claims to have debunked your arguments...it's troll 101.

😂

Considering his name is Emporer Sidious and his avatar is star wars, its funny he is trolling for Harry Potter.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yoda can lift multiple tons with his tk, there is no way that Dumbledore could keep hold of the wand, thus he gets his wand tk'd and speedblitzed.

So can windu yet that didn't stop a child from holding on to his lightsaber for that entire time. So what does that say to you, does that mean nothing?
Are you denying George Lucas?

I say that Dumbledore doesn't have the strength feats to suggest that he can hold onto his wand, thus he gets his wand tk'd and speedblitzed.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He just spouts nonsense and then claims to have debunked your arguments...it's troll 101.

Oh you are in position to say that when you do the exact same thing you are the king of trolls spouting stuff that has already been debunked and not debunking anything that I've said

Originally posted by Silent Master
I say that Dumbledore doesn't have the strength feats to suggest that he can hold onto his wand, thus he gets his wand tk'd and speedblitzed.

The child has absolutely no feats to his unknown name or personality yet he was able to hold on to the lightsaber windu only got it back because because of a sneak trick by jar jar so that means nothing, dumbledore will be able to hold on to his wand and even for a short time and with that dumb,encore can shoot any numeber of spells at yoda that yoda will either have to break his concentration to dodge or he will get hit with the spell and as a side note dumbledore can use accio which he doesn't need a wand to do so he could always do that

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
😂

Considering his name is Emporer Sidious and his avatar is star wars, its funny he is trolling for Harry Potter.

1. When I made this account I was going through an extreme sidious thing
2. My picture has something to do with magic
3. I'm not trolling
4. Harry Potter is the best
5. Look below my picture it also has to with magic