Yoda versus Dumbledore (the Force versus Hogwarts magic)

Started by EmperorSidious248 pages

Originally posted by Silent Master
The kid resisting the tk is a feat, which means that for now the kid has better strength feats than Dumbledore, which means that for now he's much stronger. now if you want to claim that Dumbledore can also resist multi-tom level tk, you have to post matching or better strength feats for Dumbledore.

As it stands now, Dumbledore gets his wand tk'd and then speedblitzed.

Also if one increases there physical size like if they get bigger does that necessarily tjat they get stronger I don't mean bigger in weight I just mean bigger

2. Do you consider Darth Maul Son of Dathomir cannon or not

If you want to prove that Dumbledore can resist multi-ton level tk, start posting strength feats for Dumbledore that are in the mutli-ton range.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If you want to prove that Dumbledore can resist multi-ton level tk, start posting strength feats for Dumbledore that are in the mutli-ton range.

Oh I know you aren't doing this to me where are those speed feats I requested I haven't gotten those while I've told you two spells that will make that invalid since his wand couldn't be separated from his hand and I've told you where to look for both spells and I've found a lot of combative spells that dumbledore would use that yoda would be overwhelmed by

Originally posted by Silent Master
If you want to prove that Dumbledore can resist multi-ton level tk, start posting strength feats for Dumbledore that are in the mutli-ton range.

Who needs streng feats when you have those two spells

Spells that he wouldn't be able to cast since Yoda is tk'ing his wand. So you're basically saying that Dumbledore has no defense against having his wand tk'd.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Spells that he wouldn't be able to cast since Yoda is tk'ing his wand. So you're basically saying that Dumbledore has no defense against having his wand tk'd.

First spells he uses before he enters the ring so his wand isn't going anywhere except in dumbledores hand so what do you have now

And he also has wandless magic telekenisis apparition and other wandless abilities but still

Originally posted by Silent Master
Spells that he wouldn't be able to cast since Yoda is tk'ing his wand. So you're basically saying that Dumbledore has no defense against having his wand tk'd.

Where are those speed clips I asked for?

Except that he won't be able to cast them as Yoda is tk'ing his wand, so again you're basically saying that Dumbledore has no defense against having his wand tk'd.

Ok, so even assuming Dumbledore can magically glue his wand to his hand before he gets disarmed and speed blitzed, it just means he is going to get ragdolled along with the wand, considering Yoda's tk can easily move his weight.

Or is Dumbledore going to somehow tag Yoda with a bunch of spells he has never used onscreen, while also performing the wand holding spells, all while Yoda stands around and twiddles his thumbs, instead of using his enhanced physical abilities, active force powers, and precog, to defend himself?

This thread should not have made it to page 24. Admittedly, I didn't read through all of it though. Just a single page of EmperorSidious2' posts have given me a headache. Seriously, commas and periods are your friend.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Except that he won't be able to cast them as Yoda is tk'ing his wand, so again you're basically saying that Dumbledore has no defense against having his wand tk'd.

Can you not read I said before he even enters the ring since he has never faced an opponent like yoda he knows he will need to keep his wand so what now

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Ok, so even assuming Dumbledore can magically glue his wand to his hand before he gets disarmed and speed blitzed, it just means he is going to get ragdolled along with the wand, considering Yoda's tk can easily move his weight.

Or is Dumbledore going to somehow tag Yoda with a bunch of spells he has never used onscreen, while also performing the wand holding spells, all while Yoda stands around and twiddles his thumbs, instead of using his enhanced physical abilities, active force powers, and precog, to defend himself?

This thread should not have made it to page 24. Admittedly, I didn't read through all of it though. Just a single page of EmperorSidious2' posts have given me a headache. Seriously, commas and periods are your friend.

It's rather funny watching him have Dumbles act OOC(out of character) all the while complaining that people are having Yoda act OOC. he isn't even trying to hide his massive double standard.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Can you not read I said before he even enters the ring since he has never faced an opponent like yoda he knows he will need to keep his wand so what now

Doesn't matter if he knows that he needs to cast the spells, as he won't be able to cast them as Yoda is tk'ing his wand.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Ok, so even assuming Dumbledore can magically glue his wand to his hand before he gets disarmed and speed blitzed, it just means he is going to get ragdolled along with the wand, considering Yoda's tk can easily move his weight.

Or is Dumbledore going to somehow tag Yoda with a bunch of spells he has never used onscreen, while also performing the wand holding spells, all while Yoda stands around and twiddles his thumbs, instead of using his enhanced physical abilities, active force powers, and precog, to defend himself?

This thread should not have made it to page 24. Admittedly, I didn't read through all of it though. Just a single page of EmperorSidious2' posts have given me a headache. Seriously, commas and periods are your friend.

First off, it's hard for yoda to that when he is being repeatedly shot at with different spells one that will make his arms the weight of jelly beans, cause him to explode, get drowned, burned alive, bleed to death, or many many other possibilities since dumbledore versatility allows this. You say that as if yoda weights a tremendous amount he weights less than the skinniest girl at hogwarts since there are different spells that can stop yoda from moving such as levicorpris which will hang yoda from his ankles or the spell used on Neville in either sorcerers stone or chamber of secrets, pertrificus total U.S. which freezes him, wimgardium leviosa which dumbledore could use to ragdoll dumbledore or impedimenta which can be used to levitate off balance or freeze a target and many other spells so yoda isn't the only one who ragdolls

Secondly, once a spell has been enacted such as those two spells once it's been enacted you don't have to concentrate on it spells such as that mind you so he can use any other spell he wishes. Dumbledore is the most powerful wizard to ever exist as his title so what makes you think he can't use any other spell not seen onscreen. He was the Head of the Transfiguration department thus has an ocean of transfiguration spells at his disposal, also he is known as a master duelist which mean he has a plethora of deuling pulls at his disposal as he was able to defeat grindlewald who was the true master of the elder wand a very impressive feat also he is known as the most powerful wizard of all time meaning he knows every spell in the book so what makes you think he can't use spells not seen on screen with all of that backing him explain that to me

Third. Not in yoda typical MO to use physical attacks against his opponents and dumbledore can again use his plethora of spells in order to defend himself against anything yoda can bring while yoda can't sense as neither has experienced an opponent like the others dumbledore is bringing more variety to the table that is battle applicable that yoda has never seen used in such a manor before such as the elements that yoda doesn't have telekenisis which both have and dumbledores other spells will definitely come in handy and at the end of the day all of those spells willbecome to much for yoda to handle as both could ragdoll each other but in this battle comes yodas prime weakness, his need to focus and gather his energies such, as he is focused on one thing at one time, never multitasking which is the exact thing that magic is good for, either multi tasking or being a distraction which dumbledore would use to his advantage to win the battle.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Doesn't matter if he knows that he needs to cast the spells, as he won't be able to cast them as Yoda is tk'ing his wand.

But he will have his wand. Why wouldn't he have his wand?

Because he doesn't have the ability to prevent Yoda from tk'ing it.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's rather funny watching him have Dumbles act OOC(out of character) all the while complaining that people are having Yoda act OOC. he isn't even trying to hide his massive double standard.

Oh it's funny how your are being stupid and childish and naive and arrogant

1. How am I taking dumbledore out of character
2. I said I don't BELIEVE yoda would move or use physical attacks as we have a solid bases for his skills in battle. I believe if he wanted to he could since unless dumbledore has already locked his legs together he can move,nothing is stoping him I just told you why I don't think he would move since he never does untill the next move that's all and as for taking his wand I'm defending Dumbledores right to have his wand which he will continue to have throughout the entire battle but if yoda wants to use physical abilities he can until dumbledore stops him, I just stated why I thought he wouldn't since we have never seen him do it with no proof to,the comtrary but he can if he wants to so you see I never had a double standard you just misunderstood

Originally posted by Silent Master
Because he doesn't have the ability to prevent Yoda from tk'ing it.

Those two spells sir dumbledores grip will be unbreakbale and while he is trying this will happen

https://youtu.be/l0uvchgRc3o

Let's start with the two spells you want him to cast as soon as the fight starts and then move onto the unforgivables you want him to use, at no point in any of the movies has he ever cast those spells, let alone during a fight, thus him doing so here would fall under OOC. Yet you complain when the Yoda side brings up tk and speed, two things that Yoda has actually been shown to use in battle.

So in conclusion, Yoda wins via tk and speedblitz.

Or this

https://youtu.be/6_c4sxxtbp0

The fact that you can't post any clips of Dumbledore using those spells just proves my claim that you're having Dumbles act OOC.