Yoda versus Dumbledore (the Force versus Hogwarts magic)

Started by EmperorSidious248 pages
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Sidious, how do you keep this up?

Well it's quite easy. It's disrespectful when someone ask you something to not reply, and I BELEIVE strongly that dumbledore would win, now I'm not saying that yoda couldn't win but I say due to dumbledore versatility with his numerous spells that have so many different effects that dumbledore would win, also I take that your post saying dumbledore wins was sarcasm right?

Again, Dumbledore has no strength feats to suggest that he could hold onto his wand, thus he gets his wand tk'd and speedblitzed.

Now you may consider this trolling but the official defenition of trolling is

Make a deliberately offensive or provocative online posting with the aim of upsetting or eliciting an angry response from them

I don't know about you but I have not sent a message with those intentions and all of my points make since so...

Originally posted by Silent Master
Again, Dumbledore has no strength feats to suggest that he could hold onto his wand, thus he gets his wand tk'd and speedblitzed.

Again neither does the kid so those strength feats are not necessary as the kid is unknown and also it's common sense that this is his wand and it ways very little and he always protects it with the exception the last time but he was weak tired thirsty and dieng so not a normal thing for him so even if he couldn't hold own forever he would still ne able to hold on long enough in order to shoot a spell out that would again either break yodas concentration or hit yoda and with that ending the match

What strength feats does Dumbledore have to suggest that he can resist Yoda's multiple ton level tk?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Again, Dumbledore has no strength feats to suggest that he could hold onto his wand, thus he gets his wand tk'd and speedblitzed.

Oh and also yoda does not focus on two things at one time it's always one thing for instance

Deul with dooku

1. If yoda could speed blitz then why didn't he do it against dooku when dooku was facing the walls and ceiling trying to hit yoda with those objects and if he is so fast as you say he could have avoided that and then speed blitzed dooku in a second according to you

2. Dooku bringing the ceiling down ok dooku looked up long enough for yoda to throw his lightsaber at him or do anything else to dooku so why didn't he just speed blitz him because he's focused on one thing solely no matter how much time he has to get the guy

3. If yoda is so fast why didn't he dodge dookus Lightning

Deul with sidious. While sidious was turning around in his chair or even better after he was flipping over after yoda did a force push why didn't he just speed blitz and hack him up with his lightsaber this is all from the movie can you answer me that why yoda didn't just speed blit sidious when sidious was vulnerable answer me that

Yoda has feats of using tk and feats of using speed, thus Yoda tk'ing the wand and then speedblitzing Dumbledore is a valid tactic.

Originally posted by Silent Master
What strength feats does Dumbledore have to suggest that he can resist Yoda's multiple ton level tk?

1. The fact that the kid in the episode held windu lightsaber for all that time so naturally someone who has a weapon who they never lets go of it never in a situation where they don't have a grip on their wand and it's easier to hold on to the wand why in the world would it be wrong for dumbledore to resist yodas when the kid resisted, windu, a very powerful force weirder. Also the kid has no feats what so ever in previous episodes we have never even seen him before so that just means that anyone can hold on to there weapon from a force weilder even of the like of yoda

2. It's common sense if I have a weapon and you are trying to take it away from me no matter how much stronger you are than me I will be able to hold on to that weapon even for a short amount of time and that time is all dumbledore needs to use an expulso curse or any other spell or curse or jinx or hex that dumbledore wants to use

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yoda has feats of using tk and feats of using speed, thus Yoda tk'ing the wand and then speedblitzing Dumbledore is a valid tactic.

Ok even if yoda try's to take his wand dumbledore just needs that one to two seconds to cast a spell and yoda doesn't bend his concentration it's either one thing or the other so either yoda get hit with the spell or he moves in order not to get hit and thus breaking his concentration which would let dumbledore get a better grip again

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yoda has feats of using tk and feats of using speed, thus Yoda tk'ing the wand and then speedblitzing Dumbledore is a valid tactic.

I'm glad he has those feats they help but they are not going to be immediate when dumbledore just shots spells everywhere and as a side note do you consider Darth Maul Son of Dathomir cannon or not

At best all you've proven is that the child has a strength feat that far surpasses Dumbledore, IOW that child is stronger than Dumbledore and no it's not common sense that someone without any notable strength feats would be able to resist multi-ton tk just because they don't want to lose their weapon.

So in conclusion, Dumbledore gets his wand tk'd and then speedblitzed.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yoda has feats of using tk and feats of using speed, thus Yoda tk'ing the wand and then speedblitzing Dumbledore is a valid tactic.

You don't understand how many spells dumbledore has at his disposal I've seen so many and I'm just on the Gs

You don't understand that Yoda can tk his wand and then speedblitz him.

Originally posted by Silent Master
At best all you've proven is that the child has a strength feat that far surpasses Dumbledore, IOW that child is stronger than Dumbledore and no it's not common sense that someone without any notable strength feats would be able to resist multi-ton tk just because they don't want to lose their weapon.

So in conclusion, Dumbledore gets his wand tk'd and then speedblitzed.

In conclusion I've proven that anyone can hold their own weapon against any force weilder even for a little while and that dumbledore will shoot a spell at yoda and it will either hit yoda of yoda would get out the way and also dumbledore has the tile most powerful wizard of all time which means his power are not hit and miss he has powers that contend with anyone even his telekinesis is powerful hence the accio charm which he would use to obtain his wand of it were taken and also he and depulso which could push yoda back and stumble him this distracting him and plus dumbledore can use wandless magic and also if yoda attempts to speed blitz him dumbledore could use protego which would definitely push yoda back and make him fall and then dumbledore would end it there

Originally posted by Silent Master
You don't understand that Yoda can tk his wand and then speedblitz him.

You don't understand the power dumbledore posses you underestimate dumbledore greatly and also you may think I'm making this up but there is a spell called Epoximse which basically glues to objects together search list of Harry Potter spell and go to this spell in the Es and its the 9th one from the top so with this spell dumbledore could keep his wand in his to where yoda can't take it. VERSATILITY THOUGH

No, at best all you've proven is that the child has a strength feat that far surpasses Dumbledore, IOW that child is stronger than Dumbledore and no it's not common sense that someone without any notable strength feats would be able to resist multi-ton tk just because they don't want to lose their weapon.

So the bottom line is that Dumbledore gets his wand tk'd and then speedblitzed.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, at best all you've proven is that the child has a strength feat that far surpasses Dumbledore, IOW that child is stronger than Dumbledore and no it's not common sense that someone without any notable strength feats would be able to resist multi-ton tk just because they don't want to lose their weapon.

So the bottom line is that Dumbledore gets his wand tk'd and then speedblitzed.

No I've proven that even someone who has no feats to there name can withstand a great force weilder this person has unknow a strenght this means that dumbledore whose strenght is also unknown can hold off even yodas telekenetic pull and also if you didn't notice dumbledore has two spells that can keep his wand in his hand which are the gripping charm and Epoximise which basically makes his grip unbreakbale so the wand argument is now officially debunked and also you didn't counter my argument that yoda only concentrates on one thing which means you agree that if dumbledore attacks an area like the ceiling yoda would concentrate solely on that and dumbledore would hit with a spell ending the match dude accept it you have been beatin or the vines or the unforgivable curses so you agree that dumbledore can and will use those spells

The kid resisting the tk is a feat, which means that for now the kid has better strength feats than Dumbledore, which means that for now he's much stronger. now if you want to claim that Dumbledore can also resist multi-tom level tk, you have to post matching or better strength feats for Dumbledore.

As it stands now, Dumbledore gets his wand tk'd and then speedblitzed.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The kid resisting the tk is a feat, which means that for now the kid has better strength feats than Dumbledore, which means that for now he's much stronger. now if you want to claim that Dumbledore can also resist multi-tom level tk, you have to post matching or better strength feats for Dumbledore.

As it stands now, Dumbledore gets his wand tk'd and then speedblitzed.

I've told u the two spells that a dumbledore would use to make his grip unbreakbale since one spell makes his grip even harder to to break and Epoximise molecularly joins the wand with dumbledores hands so his wand can't be taken from his hand and also dumbledore can use spells such as the one used by Minerva Mcgonagall to attack severus snape
He can make his spells to where they attack yoda directly as seen in the movie it would hit yoda directly and yoda would not be able to block or withstand those types of blows of not for long as they are direct and precised also dumbledore has spells that follow you like when a rocket launcher is shot it locks on to a target and follows it at a constant fast speed that even yoda would fail to evade eventually so dumbledore wins

According to you they have no general knowledge of each other so Dumbledore wouldn't know that Yoda has tk and therefore wouldn't know he'd need to cast those spells and even if he did, he can't cast them since Yoda has tk'd his wand.