John McClane versus Indiana Jones

No whip in this fight.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No whip in this fight.

Then McClane drives his thumbs into Indy's eye sockets.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No weapons, just wits and fists, going at it, toe to toe. Who wins and why?

By just wits do you mean they start off with no weapons but can use the environment to their advantage? If so I'll give this a 50/50 and here's why.

IMO McClane is a better improviser. Indy is good, but he's more book smarts. As far as hand to hand skills go, I think Indy is actually better. Both of them had to deal with multiple opponents at the same time before, but McClane I can only remember dealing with them using a weapon, while Jones I can recall beating 6-7 soldiers at the same time with no weapons on him during the jungle chase in Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls.

Originally posted by HumanMovieGuide
By just wits do you mean they start off with no weapons but can use the environment to their advantage? If so I'll give this a 50/50 and here's why.

IMO McClane is a better improviser. Indy is good, but he's more book smarts. As far as hand to hand skills go, I think Indy is actually better. Both of them had to deal with multiple opponents at the same time before, but McClane I can only remember dealing with them using a weapon, while Jones I can recall beating 6-7 soldiers at the same time with no weapons on him during the jungle chase in Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yeah, the one who McClane failed to kill numerous times, the one who should have killed him if it hadn't been for Al. LUCK.

Nah dude. The guy died like three times. He was just some kind of demon. 😂
McClane whooped his ass everytime though.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And how would you rate him as a fighter based on his movie feats? I'd say, at best, below average.

Name me one person McClane one punch OK'd. Oh yeah, name me one person who ever killed Indy h2h, please.

Sure but thats like Judging Larry Holmes for his fight against Tyson.

Ok then... ...Steven Spielberg.

Death by Rape.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And neither would have McClane's. McClane would have been killed in microseconds.

Pure baseless speculation by you, there.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And how would you rate him as a fighter based on his movie feats? I'd say, at best, below average.

Name me one person McClane one punch OK'd. Oh yeah, name me one person who ever killed Indy h2h, please.

Dude you havent answered me, so we arent going there til then.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
There is no environment. Its a bare metal room. No furniture, no SUVs, no zippos. Just bare metal walls and floor. No weapons, just hands and feet.

Then McClane smashes Indy (who has less endurance to his name than McClane) round the face several times, then smashes his head all over the hard, meatl floors and walls. Hell. Even the ceiling.

Originally posted by HumanMovieGuide
By just wits do you mean they start off with no weapons but can use the environment to their advantage? If so I'll give this a 50/50 and here's why.

IMO McClane is a better improviser. Indy is good, but he's more book smarts. As far as hand to hand skills go, I think Indy is actually better. Both of them had to deal with multiple opponents at the same time before, but McClane I can only remember dealing with them using a weapon, while Jones I can recall beating 6-7 soldiers at the same time with no weapons on him during the jungle chase in Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls.

Well if we are going on KOTCS feats, then Indys old frail legs fail under gravity a few times there...even with NO opponent.

A Short round for McClane. 🙂

A lot is made by RJ of that McClanes violence is more realistic in the fact that one punch knockouts constantly dont really happen in real life. But theres no way that Indy would be able to knock McClane out.

I say that as old Indy swings a punch, his elderly hip comes out of his socket and natuarally he is taken to hospital in agony.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
Then McClane drives his thumbs into Indy's eye sockets.

Good call.

Honestly, theres no way that Mcclanes luck would allow him to lose to pensioner.
No..... f***ing............ wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. 😛

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Mmmmmmmmm except he did. He sparked out ass out.

Indy was jabbed half to death by a fat german in Raiders. With a JAB.

And even Indy's hardest shots couldnt do shit to the guy.
The plane saved Indy as he hid under his hat and sprawled on the floor like a pussy..

Can't they just team up and make the greatest team ever?

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well if we are going on KOTCS feats, then Indys old frail legs fail under gravity a few times there...even with NO opponent.

A Short round for McClane. 🙂

A lot is made by RJ of that McClanes violence is more realistic in the fact that one punch knockouts constantly dont really happen in real life. But theres no way that Indy would be able to knock McClane out.

I say that as old Indy swings a punch, his elderly hip comes out of his socket and natuarally he is taken to hospital in agony.

Real life? crylaugh Its the MOVIES, dude, geez, get with it. Indy KO's guys left and right with one frigging punch, McClane cant do that. Get it through your head that movie feats decree Indy the superior h2h combatant, by far. If you disagree, then give me some MOVIE FEATS, H2H movie feats that proves McClane is the better H2H fighter. Remember, they are ina metal room with bare walls here, nothing around to use, just h2h to the death. You cant, because they dont exist.

So you admit that they are similar feats wise, yet claim none existant dispairity...? But McClane is more adaptable and experienced in all things past Indy's time..

Lets see Indy aginst Ninja Chick. She would have owned him, and as Indy is unlikely to know how even to start the SUV, Matthew and the East coast would be doomed. (We see nothing to say that he could survive the freefall McClane had, without a big rubber dingy, of course.)

Indy fell to the ground under the weight of his own legs in KOTCS.

Pathetic.

That guy would die of broken neck the fisrt decent McClanian shot.

The only time he h2hs someone who knows what they're doing, they f*** him up. Be they Big Temple Guards, German fatties who jab, or whomever.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Then McClane smashes Indy (who has less endurance to his name than McClane) round the face several times, then smashes his head all over the hard, meatl floors and walls. Hell. Even the ceiling.

Do us a favor, stop munching on McClanes nutcheese and be objective, look at the movie feats, which prove without a doubt one thing. Indy is a better h2h combatant. You reek of fanboyism.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Dude you havent answered me, so we arent going there til then.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yeah, Indy is old in all his movies 🙄 Indy performs h2h feats McClane can only dream of. BTW, OLD Indy pwned three russians h2h in seconds. Hell, Old Indy is a better h2h combatant than ANY McClane. Old McClane couldnt even handle a single woman h2h. Marion Ravenwood would pwn McClane, judging by movie feats. haermm

Real life? crylaugh Its the MOVIES, dude, geez, get with it. Indy KO's guys left and right with one frigging punch, McClane cant do that. Get it through your head that movie feats decree Indy the superior h2h combatant, by far. If you disagree, then give me some MOVIE FEATS, H2H movie feats that proves McClane is the better H2H fighter. Remember, they are ina metal room with bare walls here, nothing around to use, just h2h to the death. You cant, because they dont exist.

Oh, disregarding real life fight dynamics totally...?

OK then.

Pure film Logic only...?

Then McClane uses Indy aged head on the walls, they become warm, wet and red very quickly, McClane steals his pension book. 🙂

EDIT:
Hahahah I just realised the irony that thats actually unavoidable for Indy in either Film Logic scenario OR real life fight dynamics.

Woah woah woah!

No one insults Indy Jones

Steven Spielberg did, with the making of his last movie.......

RJ does by having him fight McClane.

All we know is Indy would definitely PWN Riggs.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Oh, disregarding real life fight dynamics totally...?

OK then.

Pure film Logic only...?

Then McClane uses Indy aged head on the walls, they become warm, wet and red very quickly, McClane steals his pension book. 🙂

EDIT:
Hahahah I just realised the irony that thats actually unavoidable for Indy in either Film Logic scenario OR real life fight dynamics.

On punch KO, dude. McClane misses his mark all the time with punches, Indy will make him miss and BAM Mac is down for the count. Fact.