Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Hate to repost, but can anyone clarify this to me? Am I the only one with the opinion that the scan does not support Batman's mastery of all 127 styles?
Of course it supports it.
I have a dvd with a lifetimes worth of basketball moves, now I can beat Kobe Bryant 1 on 1.
Because he made it himself with the knowledge he posessed 😬
He has even shown to use rare martial arts on Robin from a tribe in Africa I believe. It's all in the Batman respect thread
EDIT:
Sorry it was India, not Africa
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Originally posted by thadarknite84You're referring to the below quote from your earlier post?
Look, as I said before in my post. It tells you that in "The Ultimate Guide To The Dark Knight" this book has pretty much everything there is to know about Batman, It's all base on the comic books and it's all fact. Unless your telling me that DC doesn't know what they're talking about. And that would make no sense at all. There's nothing left to talk about
Originally posted by thadarknite84But even this quote doesn't actually mention he mastered every style, only that he learned them all. Learning an art doesn't equate to mastery. Is there something else that states Batman has mastered all styles? Preferably not a handbook, but hey, at this point, I'll take what I can get.
In "The Ultimate Guide To The Dark Knight" page 11, I quote there are 127 major style of combat. While abroad, Bruce learned them all, from Aikido to Yaw-Yan. His knowledge of so many varied disciplines has made Bruce an unconventional and Unpredictable opponent, quite capable of countering a Savate kick with a Caporeira dodge, than Kayoing with a paw-knuckle strike! End quote. Does that anwser your Question, Slilent Master
Originally posted by King_MungiI'm not disputing his training in all martial arts. I was asking for something regarding his mastery of every martial art. I've looked through the thread in the past a bunch of times, but if I have to trudge through the whole thing because you don't have one handy, fine. I'll take your word for it that there's a scan of such nature and look through the ENTIRE thread tomorrow. Time for burgers, beer and a movie. But if anybody wants to save me the time and just post one, please, by all means.
Errrr...there's literally a shit load of scans to confirm his training in the Batman respect thread 😬
Originally posted by thadarknite84It only matters in certain debates when people argue about veracity of feats. Some people accept handbooks, some people don't. Anyway, whatever. Quote me the line from your handbook that says Batman has mastered all 127 styles then.
Why does it matter if it's a handbook? It's still from DC Comics and Batman is a DC character, be for real Who would Know more. The comic book readers or the company that makes the comic book
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You're referring to the below quote from your earlier post?
But even this quote doesn't actually mention he mastered every style, only that he learned them all. Learning an art doesn't equate to mastery. Is there something else that states Batman has mastered all styles? Preferably not a handbook, but hey, at this point, I'll take what I can get.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Because he made it himself with the knowledge he posessed 😬He has even shown to use rare martial arts on Robin from a tribe in Africa I believe. It's all in the Batman respect thread
EDIT:
Sorry it was India, not Africa
http://img103.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=4b8_bat_indianskill.jpg
That doesn't mean he has mastered it or 126 other styles.
Also a lot of styles of martial arts aren't very useful in actually combat.
Because I can beat Batman because I have Bas Rutten's self defense tape and that's canon.
Originally posted by Mindset
That doesn't mean he has mastered it or 126 other styles.Also a lot of styles of martial arts aren't very useful in actually combat.
Because I can beat Batman because I have Bas Rutten's self defense tape and that's canon.
It kinda does, as it was his CD of the things he mastered 😬
Ok? Doesn't mean he hasn't mastered them, when in the Secret Files it said he did *shrugs*
Errr? we have seen Batman use various different forms of martial arts so how is that the same thing? We have even seen Batman go toe to toe with the best martial arts masters in the DCU, can you make that claim merely because you have Bas Rutten's tape? 😬
Originally posted by King_Mungi
It kinda does, as it was his CD of the things he mastered 😬Ok? Doesn't mean he hasn't mastered them, when in the Secret Files it said he did *shrugs*
Errr? we have seen Batman use various different forms of martial arts so how is that the same thing? We have even seen Batman go toe to toe with the best martial arts masters in the DCU, can you make that claim merely because you have Bas Rutten's tape? 😬
Really, I didn't see where it said it was styles he mastered, is it on the page before?
Post the scan where it says he has mastered them.
You probably don't know who Bas Rutten is, or else you would know I could beat Batman.
Originally posted by Mindset
Really, I didn't see where it said it was styles he mastered, is it on the page before?Post the scan where it says he has mastered them.
You probably don't know who Bas Rutten is, or else you would know I could beat Batman.
Not there, it was said in Secret Files and in Batman's orgin stories he mastered all the forms. 😬
I'll try to
Bas Rutten is a mixed martial artist and owner of a gym. If you actually read the off-topic thread in this forum, you would know I'm a huge MMA fan. Bas even recently helped train Kimbo in his bought with Tank Abbott 😬. Basically your using the logic you listening to his tape makes you good as him? Batman made the tape with his knowledge, where on-panel statements said he has mastered these forms and shown multiple times rare martial arts from parts all over the world that somehow dimishes the fact he learned what he learned and made a disc about it? I'm not following your logic here
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Not there, it was said in Secret Files and in Batman's orgin stories he mastered all the forms. 😬I'll try to
Bas Rutten is a mixed martial artist and owner of a gym. If you actually read the off-topic thread in this forum, you would know I'm a huge MMA fan. Bas even recently helped train Kimbo in his bought with Tank Abbott 😬. Basically your using the logic you listening to his tape makes you good as him? Batman made the tape with his knowledge, where on-panel statements said he has mastered these forms and shown multiple times rare martial arts from parts all over the world that somehow dimishes the fact he learned what he learned and made a disc about it? I'm not following your logic here
Actually, I was joking about the Bas Rutten tape, but you didn't get it.
Now that I know you know who he is it makes it even worse that you didn't get it. 😐
Originally posted by Mindset
Actually, I was joking about the Bas Rutten tape, but you didn't get it.Now that I know you know who he is it makes it even worse that you didn't get it. 😐
I don't even know the context your using as I havn't been reading the past couple pages. So please explain as I generally don't know where you were going with it
Hopefully if all willing, I\m going to try to get some scans tonight but I doubt it as I'm on my laptop
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
omg_smilie Scans?
Originally posted by King_Mungi
If I wasn't on my laptop sure, as my main comp is still in the shop.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
My main comp would randomly shut down on me, that's why in msn conversations I would suddenly log off in mid-conversation 🙁
Originally posted by thadarknite84
Having an enhance mind doesn't give Cap a clear victory over Batman, he trained his mind and body to physical perfection. In my opinion, Cap's enhance mind can't really be that much better than Batman. At the end of the day perfection is perfection, any higher for a human and it becomes Superhuman and Cap is not a superhuman, just peak human.
Yes Batman trained to his potential just like Daredevil trained for his or just like Shang Chi trained for his. Etc Etc.
Cap is a man unlike the world has never seen before. The peak of human "potential". He was created to be greater then athletes even the best ones.
Dr. Reinstein the creator of the SSS stated it best. In his own words Cap is the next step in human evolution. A man from the coming decades.
You are correct Cap is not superhuman because even if he is "superior" to athletes such as Batman, Daredevil, Hawkeye, Connor Hawk. He is still just human. But a superior human no less.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Yes Batman trained to his potential just like Daredevil trained for his or just like Shang Chi trained for his. Etc Etc.Cap is a man unlike the world has never seen before. The peak of human "potential". He was created to be greater then athletes even the best ones.
Dr. Reinstein the creator of the SSS stated it best. In his own words Cap is the next step in human evolution. A man from the coming decades.
You are correct Cap is not superhuman because even if he is "superior" to athletes such as Batman, Daredevil, Hawkeye, Connor Hawk. He is still just human. But a superior human no less.
One could know all the facts about a character and I may not know everything about Batman but I do understand what makes him so good at what he does. It's something that the SSS can't give you, you'll have to already have it within you or you don't. I can't say that Cap isn't a true hero but Batman isn't Bruce Wayne, he has no life and everything he does, he does it because he is truly Batman in his mind and in his heart, Bruce Wayne is just a mask. Batman doesn't do anything short of perfection. To think that it would take one man to break him, Superior or not is very unlikely. Bane could not break Batman's fighting spirit and neither can Captain America.
