Cgi and nick Gilliard not in The Original Trilogy

Started by Master Crimzon7 pages

Yeah. I'm not gonna argue wit ya anymore; no need, really. Just opinions and stuff. I think the PT had a more complex story, but the OT's (except for in the case of RotS) executed its own black-and-white good-guy-kills-bad-guy type story in a superior manner, most due to the story being more consistent and more... 'clear'. Just my two cents, though.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Because the story wasn't all that awesome. 😐

And geeze, all of you people who talk about this, you don't realize that the OT is famous because of it's graphics. It's story wasn't in any way unique, or special, or anything. Star Wars at the time was the prettiest movie ever, and it's fan were doing the exact same thing then that PT fans are doing now.
So I fail to see your points in this regard.

And The PT's story...?

I'm not saying that special effects are important. I mean, don't get me wrong, I love special effects a lot and I know they're somewhat necessary... but that doesn't mean the story should be ignored.

The story was sorta special in a way, because other movies have been copying the plotline even. and they say imitation is the highest form of flattery(or something like that) right? so that must mean that the storyline is indeed good.

I'm just kinda frustrated with people who think effects are all that, that it's the only thing that makes up the movie.
I know people who refuse to watch the OT JUST because they don't like the special effects. Heck, I know movies that have worse effects than the OT... I mean, if you only like special effects, what's the point of the movie having a plotline, then?


Well... there's drugs for that m'dear. xD

And speaking of which, I haven't seen you for a loooongggg time. How's life?

yeah, but I can't touch any of them. 😛

Just entered the wonderful world of college last June(no sarcasm here.. well, maybe a bit). And now I'm starting to bleed because of the midterm exams. And for the past unexplained absences, I was busy and I was at the POTC forums. then driven away by some spammer. Maybe the SW Clone Wars coming brought me back here...

But to answer the quoestion, life's fine- great even.. 🙂 great that you even recognize me... 😄 so, how about yours?

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt

I know. I didn't say all young fans. And your latter sentence was my entire point - all the SFX were making up for the story line - or lack there of.

Right. Agreed. *nods*

Ok, now i don't know if you're being sarcastic or serious. I'm all for SFX and such, I just don't think they should be expected to carry a movie.

refer to my reply to blax's post. it's up there... 😄

One would have to admit that the Han and Leia sub plot was far less cheesy than Ani/Padme. Han never jumped on a horrible looking CGI animal to ride and then fall off. Plus Han was a man about his. Not a whiny little girl.

exactly.

It really is. That was part of the intrigue of the trilogy and why it dominated all other movies.

*nods* agreed.

That's what I said in the beginning of all this, too.

I know, just repeated to show my POV and for added effect... 😄

I know what you mean, and yes, there are some ways the PT emulates the OT, but its still different.

Well, that's the way it should be i guess- after all, they were written by only one person... agreed about them being different, though.

Here is a little something I cooked up on 3DS MAX today. The sky reminds me of Hoth.

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/2585/locationjm0.jpg

pretty good. I know dick about that program though so i don t know what its capable of, but that's cool.

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
pretty good. I know dick about that program though so i don t know what its capable of, but that's cool.

Thanks. 3DS MAX is used to make video games, movie CG, etc. The only limit it really has is the user's knowledge and experience and they computer it is running on basically.

It is a lot of fun.

I'll have to look into it. They have it for Mac?

Looks fakish to me.

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
I'll have to look into it. They have it for Mac?

No. 3ds MAX runs on workstations or high end PCs. Users who want to run it on a Mac have to dual boot with Windows, thus they would need a Mac with an Intel CPU.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_made_with_Autodesk_3ds_Max

That is a list of movies that used 3ds MAX for visual effects in part or in whole. Another popular program similar to MAX is MAYA.

Originally posted by queeq
Looks fakish to me.

Thank you...I am still learning...and I made something, which one do you like better?

Hahaha. Maybe I should post an HD image of that...strech out everyones window with a normal monitor...

I heard these are illegal in parts of Europe.

Which is why I carry these...

Still a bit sterile... not to insult you or anything. I mean, I can't do it myself.

But the surfaces are too flat, too dead. You gotta work on texture and lighting a bit more. Basic models are fine though.

Originally posted by queeq
Still a bit sterile... not to insult you or anything. I mean, I can't do it myself.

But the surfaces are too flat, too dead. You gotta work on texture and lighting a bit more. Basic models are fine though.

I see what you mean. I will work on one of the lightsabers and try to give it improved texture and lighting. It will be a few days before it will be ready. I have learned a little bit about more realistic materials and textures recently so it should look better.

This is a glass bowl with some fruit that I added to an animation recently.

Modeeling looks fine... but again, it's texture and lighting.

Organic stuff is quite hard, it's full of imperfections. So you have to make it imperfect. But keep it up, you're getting there.

Originally posted by queeq
Modeeling looks fine... but again, it's texture and lighting.

Organic stuff is quite hard, it's full of imperfections. So you have to make it imperfect. But keep it up, you're getting there.

Thanks, I understand the textures, but what don't you like about the lighting?

That is very true about organic things. They are also very hard to model. Mechanical things are easy, most organic stuff requires very complex geometry.

Someday I will make you an updated lightsaber. I'll give it a good metal texture and play with the lighting. Hopefully I will learn some new things along the way.

THe lights look to spotty... but again, texture and lighting go hand in hand.

Originally posted by queeq
THe lights look to spotty... but again, texture and lighting go hand in hand.

That must be becuase there is only one basic light in that shot.

The glass material is something new I learned, I am happy with the results so far.

Okay Queeq I made an awesome looking lightsaber with majorly improved material/texture just for you. 🙂

You're adorable when you use the happy face smiley, FYI.

And Nun-chucks are actually illegal to have in the States too. I think you can have one at home, maybe. But they're considered to be as dangerous as a gun and aren't allowed to be carried on the streets.

I have about 4 pair at home, and was told not to walk around with them, but you can have them indoor and in Dojo's. You'd have to cause I started trainin9 with them when i was 9 up until I was 16. 28 now, so i doubt the law changed much since then but i guess it could depend on the state.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
You're adorable when you use the happy face smiley, FYI.

And Nun-chucks are actually illegal to have in the States too. I think you can have one at home, maybe. But they're considered to be as dangerous as a gun and aren't allowed to be carried on the streets.

Thanks! 🙂

I wonder why chucks are illegal here...they don't seem that dangerous in the hands of most people.

Originally posted by sweersa
Okay Queeq I made an awesome looking lightsaber with majorly improved material/texture just for you. 🙂

Nice... but still fakish. Sorry to be a pain. hehehe

Originally posted by queeq
Nice... but still fakish. Sorry to be a pain. hehehe

Thanks, well the only thing I could think of doing is making it look imperfect, giving it scratches etc. But I like it how it is. 😛

Nothing looks more real than the real thing...not that lightsabers exist...