I can't stand Prequal bashers. If they grew up watching I, II and III they would have more of an appreciation for them.
I was a kid when I watched the OT (7-8) Then the PT came along and I loved it. I still love it to this day being 17.
When all of the older critics are gone or have no say they should be appreciated much better.
Originally posted by sweersaI doubt that the PT is really going to be films for the ages.
I can't stand Prequal bashers. If they grew up watching I, II and III they would have more of an appreciation for them.I was a kid when I watched the OT (7-8) Then the PT came along and I loved it. I still love it to this day being 17.
When all of the older critics are gone or have no say they should be appreciated much better.
Originally posted by sweersa
I can't stand Prequal bashers. If they grew up watching I, II and III they would have more of an appreciation for them.
👆 Amen to that. I remember my 11th birthday in June of 98 how badly I wanted a Qui-Gon Jinn and Darth Maul lightsaber. The Prequels bring me back to my childhood days. So in a way, it definitely helps you appreciate them more.
Originally posted by sweersaUh, you contradict yourself. If he used that as a template and made the PT more like the OT, then that's what you would have grown up with and that's what you would have loved.
. If Lucas would have used the OT as a template for the PT, the older fans would love and worship him, but his next gen fan base or his younger fan base (which matters most) wouldn't want anything to do with it.
Also, why do the next generation and young fans matter more than those of us who made Star War so popular to begin with? You don't think that despite what's in theaters, I show my son and daughter the OT and explain how great it is so they can appreciate SW's roots?
For someone who hates people who bash "your" trilogy (despite it being "lucas' films"😉 and all those who prefer the PT, you sure do do that to the OT and it's fans.
Originally posted by Sith Master XSo then you must understand how us older fans, or fans of the OT feel? Therefore, we're not out of line or wrong for our opinions... right?
👆 Amen to that. I remember my 11th birthday in June of 98 how badly I wanted a Qui-Gon Jinn and Darth Maul lightsaber. The Prequels bring me back to my childhood days. So in a way, it definitely helps you appreciate them more.
Originally posted by sweersa
It means it is popular. Time will most certainly tell my friend. Either one of us could be wrong.Just gotta wait and see.
Agreed. Though, I doubt the reasons for why I dislike parts of the PT will change.
Originally posted by Sith Master X
👆 Amen to that. I remember my 11th birthday in June of 98 how badly I wanted a Qui-Gon Jinn and Darth Maul lightsaber. The Prequels bring me back to my childhood days. So in a way, it definitely helps you appreciate them more.
You mean 99, I think. And I was thirteen then, so I wouldn't really say that I was an old fart back then that just grew up with the OT and couldn't imagine anything happening to them.
The PT isn't meant for the older fans really, they market is the younger generation. Why would Lucas aim to please the older fans when all of the money and the future it with the next generation?
I am sure Lucas could have very well made I-III with the scope of the Originals, but that would take all of the fun out of it becuase we have seen films like that.
This is something new, for new people. Myself, being a younger guy, I find the Prequels more exciting and not as boring as the OT. Not that the OT is boring, I mean I love it it is all Star Wars, I am just saying both trilogies are different and it isn't fair to really talk them down after growing up with the mind set that the originals were first, and right.
Originally posted by sweersa
The PT isn't meant for the older fans really, they market is the younger generation. Why would Lucas aim to please the older fans when all of the money and the future it with the next generation?I am sure Lucas could have very well made I-III with the scope of the Originals, but that would take all of the fun out of it becuase we have seen films like that.
This is something new, for new people. Myself, being a younger guy, I find the Prequels more exciting and not as boring as the OT. Not that the OT is boring, I mean I love it it is all Star Wars, I am just saying both trilogies are different and it isn't fair to really talk them down after growing up with the mind set that the originals were first, and right.
Agreed, that wouldn't be fair. To talk them down for the garbage that is included in them on the other hand does seem fair. If the PT had been amazingly good movies no one would talk them down, they weren't...they were maybe slightly above average, so they did disappoint people that expected something of the scope and excellence of the OT.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Agreed, that wouldn't be fair. To talk them down for the garbage that is included in them on the other hand does seem fair. If the PT had been amazingly good movies no one would talk them down, they weren't...they were maybe slightly above average, so they did disappoint people that expected something of the scope and excellence of the OT.
For one thing most of the critics or guys talking that trilogy down has a hard on for the Original trilogy becuase of their childhood revolved around of it. Of course they are not going to like anything new.
When today's younger generation grows up and has more of a voice I don't think the Prequels will get bashed nearly as bad becuase the kids who grew up with them will have something to say.
I agree some aspects of the Prequels could have been better like in all movies, but don't let things like that ruin it for you.
Originally posted by sweersa
For one thing most of the critics or guys talking that trilogy down has a hard on for the Original trilogy becuase of their childhood revolved around of it. Of course they are not going to like anything new.When today's younger generation grows up and has more of a voice I don't think the Prequels will get bashed nearly as bad becuase the kids who grew up with them will have something to say.
I agree some aspects of the Prequels could have been better like in all movies, but don't let things like that ruin it for you.
Well, I somehow don't think that the PT is going to be in the minds of the younger generation as the OT has been. Afterall the OT has gathered fans since it was first showed. I only saw it in the mid nineties and still loved it. I doubt that in 20 years young kids are going to watch The Phantom Menace and be drawn in like so many have been with Star Wars.
And the little things did ruin some of it...as they were just so many and just so annoying.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, I somehow don't think that the PT is going to be in the minds of the younger generation as the OT has been. Afterall the OT has gathered fans since it was first showed. I only saw it in the mid nineties and still loved it. I doubt that in 20 years young kids are going to watch The Phantom Menace and be drawn in like so many have been with Star Wars.And the little things did ruin some of it...as they were just so many and just so annoying.
I also got into the OT in the mid 90's (I was around 6-7) When the Prequels came out I loved them also. I was still kid when they came out.
Originally posted by sweersa
I also got into the OT in the mid 90's (I was around 6-7) When the Prequels came out I loved them also. I was still kid when they came out.
As I said, I was thirteen. The point is it's not just people that saw Star Wars in the cinema back in the 70s that now dislike the PT. There are actually valid reasons, and to just disregard them as being solely influenced by sentimentality is wrong, in my opinion.
Originally posted by Bardock42
As I said, I was thirteen. The point is it's not just people that saw Star Wars in the cinema back in the 70s that now dislike the PT. There are actually valid reasons, and to just disregard them as being solely influenced by sentimentality is wrong, in my opinion.
I don't think it is solely, it just has a huge part in the bashing IMO.