Cgi and nick Gilliard not in The Original Trilogy

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Damn I bet that takes weeks to do a single fight. No wonder the releases are stretched so far apart, lol.

Hahaha. I am sure that has something to do with it. I believe in the PT movies (maybe not TPM) they had something different where as they tracked the blades using software similar to Adobe After Effects. Rather than doing airbrushing on say...90 frames, they can do the first and last between a gap that has similar motion and the computer fills in the gaps. Basically that saves a lot of time and looks smoother than rotoscoping.

Excluding ANH, I believe they actually did every frame individually...with transparent overlays they would basically paint or airbrush in the effects. I also believe they used some kind of light for a better glow effect in post production also.

My methods are the same as the original in principal, one frame at a time, but is sort of a hybrid method between the two trilogies becuase I use a computer and software.

Tracking elements in action sequence gets better and better. But old fashioned rotoscoping does take place once in a while.

Originally posted by queeq
Tracking elements in action sequence gets better and better. But old fashioned rotoscoping does take place once in a while.

It is fun, and old school. 🙂

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Originally posted by sweersa
The PT was successful for a reason. They were not bad movies. Bad movies bomb at the box office. People liked the Prequels enough to see them multiple times at the theatre, or atleast I did. lol

Well, there are really shit films that do well. But I agree that the PT aren't full shit, they are just nothing compared to the OT:

Originally posted by sweersa
So I am not a true fan? What defines a true fan? Your own personal opinion right? Go suck on a juice box I have a larger collection than you. Hahaha.

That's not what I said. I said you are not a true fan just because you view Lucas vision as legit. You might very well be a "true" fan (whatever that is), but not because of that.

Originally posted by sweersa
EU isn't so bad at times, most of it is odd, but whatever. The 6 movies is where it is at. The two trilogies make up the Star Wars saga. If you don't like the PT we are waiting for you to make them better...common man...upload your videos asap.

There are already better cuts out there. But hey, give me, lets say 100 000 000 Dollars and we talk in a year.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, there are really shit films that do well. But I agree that the PT aren't full shit, they are just nothing compared to the OT:

Well shit films do well for a reason. People had to like to to see them a lot. If a film is successful it must be good, obviously people out there enjoy it, it sells DVDs, the producers are happy...it is a good movie. You may not like it, but that really doesn't matter. Everyone is entitled to their opioions, rather than saying it was a "shit movie" just say you didn't like it, or in your opinion you thought it was bad, don't state it as any fact.

There are plenty of successful and popular movies I don't like, but I don't go around saying they suck or anything...becuase i am in no position or have no right of saying that.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That's not what I said. I said you are not a true fan just because you view Lucas vision as legit. You might very well be a "true" fan (whatever that is), but not because of that.

I am a true fan of Star Wars becuase I enjoy it, I enjoy all six movies, I accept Lucas' vision as it is his story, he made it, he owns it. And i am a huge collector and spend hundreds on Star Wars merchandise, old and new every year. I would say I am a true fan. I am not saying you are not. Just don't tell me I am not becuase you have no say in that.

Originally posted by sweersa
Well shit films do well for a reason. People had to like to to see them a lot. If a film is successful it must be good, obviously people out there enjoy it, it sells DVDs, the producers are happy...it is a good movie. You may not like it, but that really doesn't matter. Everyone is entitled to their opioions, rather than saying it was a "shit movie" just say you didn't like it, or in your opinion you thought it was bad, don't state it as any fact.

Good is not a synonym of popular, friend. They aren't good to me for particular reasons. If I would equate goodness with popularity then yeah, they would be good movies, I don't though. And it's ironic that you do the same thing you accuse me of. Obviously when I say "it's a shit movie" I mean "It is a bad movie in my opinion because of following criteria ..."

Originally posted by sweersa
There are plenty of successful and popular movies I don't like, but I don't go around saying they suck or anything...becuase i am in no position or have no right of saying that.

Actually you do. If you have points you can state them and if it's just your opinion you can sa that as well.

Originally posted by sweersa
I am a true fan of Star Wars becuase I enjoy it, I enjoy all six movies, I accept Lucas' vision as it is his story, he made it, he owns it. And i am a huge collector and spend hundreds on Star Wars merchandise, old and new every year. I would say I am a true fan. I am not saying you are not. Just don't tell me I am not becuase you have no say in that.

Again, you pretend I said you aren't a true fan, I did not.

I like some EU, some parts of the PT and love the OT. So, an I not a true fan because I don't think the PT was good?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Good is not a synonym of popular, friend. They aren't good to me for particular reasons. If I would equate goodness with popularity then yeah, they would be good movies, I don't though. And it's ironic that you do the same thing you accuse me of. Obviously when I say "it's a shit movie" I mean "It is a bad movie in my opinion because of following criteria ..."

Actually you do. If you have points you can state them and if it's just your opinion you can sa that as well.

Again, you pretend I said you aren't a true fan, I did not.

I like some EU, some parts of the PT and love the OT. So, an I not a true fan because I don't think the PT was good?

I never said you were not a true fan. I wish more people looked at Star Wars as being Star Wars. Everybody feels like they have to compare this trilogy with that trilogy...special editions to originals, just accept things as they are and move on. Star Wars will always be the same as we know it.

Fanship doesn't mean you praise everything they bring out. It also means you stick to it even when parts don't meet the standrads. The PT often did not meet the standards.

Originally posted by sweersa
I never said you were not a true fan. I wish more people looked at Star Wars as being Star Wars. Everybody feels like they have to compare this trilogy with that trilogy...special editions to originals, just accept things as they are and move on. Star Wars will always be the same as we know it.

Don't get the last part. Obviously Star Wars will not always be the same as we know it, since Lucas and his people add and change.

And I mean, you can be sure that once Lucas is dead someone else will milk the Franchise...if you don't like their vision is that okay or not?

Originally posted by queeq
Fanship doesn't mean you praise everything they bring out. It also means you stick to it even when parts don't meet the standrads. The PT often did not meet the standards.

Well, depends what "sticking to it means".

Personally I loved a lot of parts of the PT very, very much, but it had so many cringe worthy moments and stupid ideas that I just don't feel they were fantastic movies. I guess they were at least average or above average, but since I expected something like the OT, which I still think is pretty ****ing awesome, I was disappointed.

Same here. But for me that doesn't mean I just ditch the PT and pretend it never existed. It's like the ugly brother of the OT, but still the same family. And luckily there is a loophole that we can choose to stick to canon, otherwise the crap would outweigh the good bits.

Originally posted by queeq
Fanship doesn't mean you praise everything they bring out. It also means you stick to it even when parts don't meet the standrads. The PT often did not meet the standards.

I don't like everything they bring out, I didn't hate the Clone Wars movie but I didn't love it either. I just happen to enjoy all six films nearly equally.

You can't really look at the OT as being the standard becuase it is so different from the PT. Different story, different films. If Lucas would have used the OT as a template for the PT, the older fans would love and worship him, but his next gen fan base or his younger fan base (which matters most) wouldn't want anything to do with it.

Originally posted by sweersa
I don't like everything they bring out, I didn't hate the Clone Wars movie but I didn't love it either. I just happen to enjoy all six films nearly equally.

You can't really look at the OT as being the standard becuase it is so different from the PT. Different story, different films. If Lucas would have used the OT as a template for the PT, the older fans would love and worship him, but his next gen fan base or his younger fan base (which matters most) wouldn't want anything to do with it.

But it doesn't really stand out. The PTs are just another bunch of movies...while the OT actually has something special to them...

Originally posted by Bardock42
But it doesn't really stand out. The PTs are just another bunch of movies...while the OT actually has something special to them...

They had something special about them becuase you grew up with them...

Originally posted by sweersa
They had something special about them becuase you grew up with them...

That's one possibility. Or maybe they actually had better characters, better story and less lameness.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That's one possibility. Or maybe they actually had better characters, better story and less lameness.

Or maybe they didn't.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Or maybe they didn't.

Odd, since that was part of my first sentence, but thank you for restating my point.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Odd, since that was part of my first sentence, but thank you for restating my point.

It was intentional. Duh.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
It was intentional. Duh.

Brint: Or the way Hansel combs his hair?
Meekus: Or like, doesn't, it's like, ex-squeeze me, but have you ever heard of styling gel?
Brint: I'm sure Hansel's heard of styling gel, he's a male model.
Meekus: Uh, earth to Brint, I was making a joke.
Brint: Uh, Earth to Meekus, duh, okay I knew that!
Meekus: Uh earth to Brint, I'm not so sure you did cuz you were all 'well I'm sure he's heard of styling gel' like you *didn’t* know it was a joke!
Brint: I knew it was a joke Meekus, I just didn't get it right away!
Meekus: Earth to Brint...
Derek Zoolander: Would you guys stop it already?

O... kay...