Originally posted by Mr Master
[B]show us Phoenix atomically manipulating that Timeline,
show us Phoenix applying her power to that Timeline,
show us Phoenix doing ANYTHING at all to that Timeline directly.
Show us where it states that Phoenix didn't do it. Please, show us.
It says she saved entire timeline, it pretty much looks directly. But show us where it states it wasn't and show us how she did it, please.
Sinister said by power. Silver Surfer saving an Universe never did it through sheer power.
Originally posted by XplosiveOk. Don't know who is the idiot. Wouldn't except that from you, who reads comics and know other powerful beings in MU. Wow, what a memory and logic. Bravo!
Originally posted by XplosiveWow! Bravo once more! Yeah! Of,
you forgot that Jean saved an entire timeline in and it wasn't mentioned it was within WHR.
Heroes save Universes all the time, big deal.
Jean needs the WHR to manipulate a Timeline atomically, get me?
On Panel she had to enter the WHR,
and the Here Comes TOmorrow bio states, she shifter herself into her dimension (WHR)
in order to Heal:
(excerpt from the Marvel Handbook - Here Come Tomorrow bio)
Again, read comics my friend.
Originally posted by Mr Master
humSaving a Timeline from destruction,
does NOT equal to,
manipulating a Timeline at the atomic level,
unless stated/depicted as the course of action that was taken.Heroes save Universes all the time, big deal.
Jean needs the WHR to manipulate a Timeline atomically, get me?
On Panel she had to enter the WHR,
and the Here Comes TOmorrow bio states, she shifter herself into her dimension (WHR)
in order to Heal:
(excerpt from the Marvel Handbook - Here Come Tomorrow bio)Again, read comics my friend.
Love the selective editing Emmie.
😂
Jean used her telekinesis outside the WHR to amputate the HCT future thereby setting a precedence for what she did inside.
Inside she once again used her TK, this time to manipulate the atomic structure of reality. All whats talked about is that she used her TK. That is it. No speculation please 🙂
The bio from December added universal scale matter manipulation to her powerset.
That says it all 😱
Originally posted by Mr Master
humSaving a Timeline from destruction,
does NOT equal to,
manipulating a Timeline at the atomic level,
unless stated/depicted as the course of action that was taken.Heroes save Universes all the time, big deal.
Jean needs the WHR to manipulate a Timeline atomically, get me?
On Panel she had to enter the WHR,
and the Here Comes TOmorrow bio states, she shifter herself into her dimension (WHR)
in order to Heal:
(excerpt from the Marvel Handbook - Here Come Tomorrow bio)Again, read comics my friend.
It never says that Jean needed to go to the White Hot Room to manipulate the atomic structure of reality.
It sets a sequence. It talks of Jean going to the White Hot Room and says she was able to heal the universe.
Lets not be deceitful Emmie 🙂
Originally posted by XplosiveShow us where it states that Phoenix didn't do it. Please, show us.
Seriously dogs, if your high right now, don't debate with me,
wait till you're sober.
I hate circles.
Originally posted by Xplosive
It says she saved entire timeline, it pretty much looks directly.
Originally posted by XplosiveBut show us where it states it wasn't and show us how she did it, please.
Dude, you're arguing on behalf of that story,
and you don't even know what the scans say? 😆
Did you just copy and paste what you swallowed in the respect thread,
without even checking for yourself first?
Bad, bad.
Anywho, on the how:
Like we all know, by stopping some nukes. 😬
Phoenix for the win
When are we going to stop giving Kyle/ion- parallax's feats..enough! they are different people...we dont give all green lanterns the same feats because they have the same power or weapon?...its a joke 😆
For kyle as ion lets see some of his feats...where do i look, a dual respect thread?
Originally posted by GalacticStormLove the selective editing Emmie.
Remember the LT bowing to Jean? 😏
Originally posted by GalacticStormJean used her telekinesis outside the WHR to amputate the HCT future thereby setting a precedence for what she did inside.
I see, so the Future was withIN Sublime:
😆
Originally posted by GalacticStormInside she once again used her TK, this time to manipulate the atomic structure of reality. All whats talked about is that she used her TK. That is it. No speculation please
Originally posted by GalacticStormThe bio from December added universal scale matter manipulation to her powerset.
That says it all
On Panel Jean has never manipulated a Universe entirely outside of the WHR.
That says it all.
Originally posted by Mr MasterOn Panel >>> bio
On Panel Jean has never manipulated a Universe entirely outside of the WHR.
That says it all.
On panel it was never stated that Jean got a power up from stepping into the WHR, therefore arguing as if that was the case, makes for a very flawed argument. 🙁
All what is stated is that Jean used her telekinesis. The bio went on to add telekinetic manipulation on a universal scale to her powerset. 🙂
Can you show me where its stated on panel that Jean received a powerup from the WHR which she needed to use her own telekinesis to perform the feat? 🤨 😆
Originally posted by GalacticStormIt never says that Jean needed to go to the White Hot Room to manipulate the atomic structure of reality.
It sets a sequence.
It talks of Jean going to the White Hot Room and says she was able to heal the universe.
Jean went into the WHR (which just happens to be a HOSPITAL for Timelines)
"Hospital White Hot"
She's clearly guided into the WHR to perform the atomic reparation,
yet, although she's NEVER done this outside of this room,
you'l say she can.
😆
The bio also clearly stated,
that she shifted into the WHR in order to be able to Heal:
Originally posted by Mr Master
Heh that was worth a chuckle.Go ahead homie,
show us Phoenix atomically manipulating that Timeline,
show us Phoenix applying her power to that Timeline,
show us Phoenix doing ANYTHING at all to that Timeline directly.Please, show us.
Wait, all you have is that statement? 😆
Get that shit out of here son.
Living proof is AoA still existing when it shouldn’t. You didn’t write AoA, you don’t don’t even work for marvel. Comics>>>>>>you comments which goes strait to the shitter.
Originally posted by Mr MasterThe FF/Silver Surfer and many others save the Universe all the time,
does this make them atomic controllers of said Universer?
Intertwine said arguments, with an irrelevant comment. What did you try to establish?
Phoenix can not do much to an entire time line with out resorting to the WHR.
What was presented? Phoenix effecting an entire time line from being wipped, with out resorting to the WHR.
Can the Silver Suffer with the FF do the same unaided? Not with out a plot device.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Nah.So again, in Here Comes Tomorrow,
Jean did manipulate the atoms of a Timeline withIN the WHR,
Jean did hold a Timeline in her hands withIN the WHR.Jean did NO such thing in that AoA scan.
Nothing even remotely resembling that.
And that’s your problem, you are fixated in the idea that Jean needs to enter the WHR in order to effect an entire time line. Not just effect it, but do it specifically as it was previously done.
When otherwise, Phoenix is capable of effecting the timeline with resorting to WHR. 😆
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
On panel it was never stated that Jean got a power up from stepping into the WHR, therefore arguing as if that was the case, makes for a very flawed argument. 🙁All what is stated is that Jean used her telekinesis. The bio went on to add telekinetic manipulation on a universal scale to her powerset. 🙂
Can you show me where its stated on panel that Jean received a powerup from the WHR which she needed to use her own telekinesis to perform the feat? 🤨 😆
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
You can give them the same feats for the most part because they were powered by the exact same powersource,trying using your brain,and no phoenix isnt winning against the strongest version of ion,want some feats?go read some green lantern comics its not my job to provide shit.
OK lets analize this...."WE gcan give them the same feats for the most part"...are you high or somthing? for the most part is the best you have....and you ask if i am using my brain
"Powered by the exact same powersource" like the GL's right...so every phoenix gets all the feats from every phoenix ever....every GL gets the same feats for every one in the corps.....every weilder of the quantum bands gets the same feats......How old are you? should i be debating with someone who is 8 years old?
Hey there lets not be so tuff over the internet..ok, i dont question wether you use your brain or not..give it up...your stroking of the DC universe is well known
So ...we at KMC.....we can now give all green lanterns the same feats? we can all give weares of the infinity gaunlet the same feats?, .We can give all the weilders of the quantum bands the same feats.i am being fair and level headed....what are you doing?
Originally posted by Mr Master
I find it funny how your trying to diverge the facts.Jean went into the WHR (which just happens to be a HOSPITAL for Timelines)
"Hospital White Hot"
She's clearly guided into the WHR to perform the atomic reparation,
yet, although she's NEVER done this outside of this room,
you'l say she can.😆
The bio also clearly stated,
to Heal:
that she shifted into the WHR in order to [B]be able
(excerpt from the Marvel Handbook - Here Come Tomorrow bio) [/B]
I find it funny that on panel it is stated that Jean used her telekinesis and the bio from November went on to take the feat and incorporate what she did into her powerset, yet for the sake of your hierarchy you would ignore this and go on and on and on and on and on about an imaginary powerup Jean gets everytime she steps into the WHR. 🙄
Why dont you show us where that points stated on panel because its not.
As for your selectively edited bio:
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
It never says that Jean needed to go to the White Hot Room to manipulate the atomic structure of reality.It sets a sequence. It talks of Jean going to the White Hot Room and says she was able to heal the universe.
😱
Originally posted by starlock
OK lets analize this...."WE gcan give them the same feats for the most part"...are you high or somthing? for the most part is the best you have....and you ask if i am using my brain"Powered by the exact same powersource" like the GL's right...so every phoenix gets all the feats from every phoenix ever....every GL gets the same feats for every one in the corps.....every weilder of the quantum bands gets the same feats......How old are you? should i be debating with someone who is 8 years old?
Hey there lets not be so tuff over the internet..ok, i dont question wether you use your brain or not..give it up...your stroking of the DC universe is well known
So ...we at KMC.....we can now give all green lanters the same feats? we can all give weares of the infinity gaunlet the same feats?, we can give every one who has reality control the same feats..We can give all the weilders of the quantum bands the same feats.i am being fair and level headed....what are you doing?
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Not every phoenix user is at the exact same level we know that,not every gl operates at the exact same level because of willpower ect effecting their powers,PARALLAX AND ION HAD THE LITERAL EXACT SAME POWER ABSORBED INTO THEM THEY CAN USE EACH OTHERS FEATS FOR THE MOST PART,what your doing is trolling and my dc stroking right what would that be,omgloltehhuccantbeatsuperman must be some serious wanking or I know myx can fight on the level of the inf gauntlet god I must be wanking,stfu and go read some ion comics and get back to me,the examples you tried to use fail because they are all dependant on the user something the central battery is not.
Ion took on the energies Parallax has left behind, however how well those energies can be utilised depends on teh users experience and their willpower, therefore you cannot use Parallax's feats to directly speak for Ion.
