Thanos vs Darkseid(the final time before final crisis)

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Well, since Darkseid's creation of Validus has been retconned, I don't see how an old retconned story matters at this point.
Im not making the distinction between Darkseid, Highfather and Stayne and Takion. I understand that the Source gives each one of them their power. I'm distinguishing Galactus/Heralds and DS+HF/Stayne and Takion. In essence, my opinion is that Galactus creating heralds is far more impressive than Darkseid or Highfather "creating" Stayne and Takion.

I also don't see Darkseid's creation of Stayne as being ultimately superior to Thanos' creation of Reptyle. Which is why this was brought up in the first place. But as I said, you're free to have your own opinions. Still, if you think it's clear that my opinion is completely wrong, some scans would be awesome.

takion or stayne on thier own are both considerably more powerful than any herald and maybe even thanos. and it is very impressive that highfather or darksied could create beings who could tap directly into the source.

FYI, Geoff Johns has said pre-crisis Legion stories are once again canon.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Well, since Darkseid's creation of Validus has been retconned, I don't see how an old retconned story matters at this point.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I see a bit of hyprocrisy in that user name.......... 🙄

rofl

hmm pc darkseid vs thanos mabey 50/50

Originally posted by -K-M-
FYI, Geoff Johns has said pre-crisis Legion stories are once again canon.

Either way, clarify this for me: What version of Darkseid kidnapped infant Garridan and turned him into Validus? 20th century or 30th century?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Either way, clarify this for me: What version of Darkseid kidnapped infant Garridan and turned him into Validus? 20th century or 30th century?

30th century

So to those who first mentioned Validus' creation, why would 30th century Darkseid mean a god damn thing in a current Darkseid vs. Thanos matchup?

I assume their going by the fact 30th Century Darkseid said he was not as strong as what he was in the 20th century.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
It's a false distinction. Considering all new gods draw power from the source. Even Darkseid and Highfather.

Originally posted by fangirl101
takion or stayne on thier own are both considerably more powerful than any herald and maybe even thanos. and it is very impressive that highfather or darksied could create beings who could tap directly into the source.

Originally posted by -K-M-
I assume their going by the fact 30th Century Darkseid said he was not as strong as what he was in the 20th century.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Please tell me you're kidding. What uber strength feats does Supes have that aren't flight assisted?

Imperiex should have taken down Sun dipped Supes with ridiculous ease. He did not. He jobbed like hell.

See what I did there?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Which as reader we can discount. I mean the Darkseid we know cant dominate Superman while Darkseid in gds was a beast and is seen as much more powerful than classic Darkseid up until the point where his heart was torn from his chest. We as readers know gds Darkseid is a helluva lot more powerful than Darkseid.

Pre-crisis Darkseid dominated Superman, it was only after Crisis on Infinite Earths was he lowered to more of Superman level.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Pre-crisis Darkseid dominated Superman, it was only after Crisis on Infinite Earths was he lowered to more of Superman level.

So saying he wasnt as strong as the Ds that submitted to Superman and got knocked around by him is wrong.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes its very confusing but more or less Darkseid was a real badass in that arc much more than what became of him after the crisis.

So saying he wasnt as strong as the Ds that submitted to Superman and got knocked around by him is wrong.

The Darkseid from the 30th Century was making reference to pre-crisis Darkseid, who was indeed above Superman. Like I mentioned after Crisis, DS's power was lowered and pre-crisis Legion stories were removed. The quote didn't apply to post-crisis Darkseid

Originally posted by -K-M-
I assume their going by the fact 30th Century Darkseid said he was not as strong as what he was in the 20th century.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Thanks for your clarification though, King Mungi.

I no longer go by that name 😖hifty:

Originally posted by -K-M-
The Darkseid from the 30th Century was making reference to pre-crisis Darkseid, who was indeed above Superman. Like I mentioned after Crisis, DS's power was lowered and pre-crisis Legion stories were removed. The quote didn't apply to post-crisis Darkseid

Originally posted by -K-M-
I no longer go by that name 😖hifty:

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok the crisis did in a sense lower everyones powers whether or officially or not. The dc universe can be very tricky. Now Darkseid should be at Galactus level. Go figure. Who knows when things will change yet again.

I give it another 5 years and things will change all over again

Originally posted by quanchi112
Is it like a Canadian thing?LOL.

Sadly no, King Mungi is an Australian punk band which I'm not a fan of but needed a name so I picked it. I didn't think I would be staying long on this board, so I didn't care and I have actually been trying to change my name for close to a year. Finally it happened and now I plan on doing the same for the other boards I venture to. Need a better name then -K-M- though