Thanos vs Darkseid(the final time before final crisis)

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quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by -K-M-
I give it another 5 years and things will change all over again

Sadly no, King Mungi is an Australian punk band which I'm not a fan of but needed a name so I picked it. I didn't think I would be staying long on this board, so I didn't care and I have actually been trying to change my name for close to a year. Finally it happened and now I plan on doing the same for the other boards I venture to. Need a better name then -K-M- though

I recently thought about changing my name to Quan or something shorter but I like K M. Stick with the same name as you can be known over the boards as either king mungi or km.

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I've seen Tricksterpriest's and Darthgoober's arguments on this exact topic in other threads. A future 30th century Darkseid has as much meaning to this vs thread as a 30th century Thanos does. Validus' creation being used as a feat for Darkseid is laughable and invalidated through forum rules. Thanks for your clarification though, King Mungi.

I looked something over on this subject.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SupermanBatman23-27.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SupermanBatman23-28.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SupermanBatman24-01.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/wor2.jpg

http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=metron3fq5.jpg

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii236/Syms_Photos/MetronBioPower.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/TheLegion029-05.jpg

Darkseid has advanced temporal awareness. Even to the point of seeing other multiverses and timelines. So even discounting Geoff's statements, there's a very strong case right for Darkseid knowing about his future. 2nd, GDS Darkseid was repeatedly stated as being WEAKER than normal Darkeid. Even after draining Mordru and the Controller, he said he was still weaker than normal. 3rdly, Foundations.

-K-M- ...........

Yeah it does seem like he has some level of temporal awareness, which breifly alluded to in Countdown

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Countdown9p05.jpg

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I looked something over on this subject.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SupermanBatman23-27.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SupermanBatman23-28.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SupermanBatman24-01.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/wor2.jpg

http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=metron3fq5.jpg

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii236/Syms_Photos/MetronBioPower.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/TheLegion029-05.jpg

Darkseid has advanced temporal awareness. Even to the point of seeing other multiverses and timelines. So even discounting Geoff's statements, there's a very strong case right for Darkseid knowing about his future. 2nd, GDS Darkseid was repeatedly stated as being WEAKER than normal Darkeid. Even after draining Mordru and the Controller, he said he was still weaker than normal. 3rdly, Foundations.

As a reader we can tell like km said that he was weaker than how Darkseid was written in precrisis times. Theres no way they are comparing Darkseid from gds to countdown or current Ds before fc. He couldnt even dominate Supes let alone beat him on his own anymore.

Foundations occurred before Darkseid could gather more power. He was weak as crap there and then young Ds beat him through the help of Orion.

The Great Galen Restricted

This still up, DS takes it simple as that...next plz.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by The Great Galen
This still up, DS takes it simple as that...next plz.
Explain to me how?

The Great Galen Restricted

DS if he is written to his true power is basically comparable to Galactus, he has feats that by comparison cripple Thanos. If DS wanted to, he could create the same energies which Drax used to kill thanos...its very simple how he would go down.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by The Great Galen
DS if he is written to his true power is basically comparable to Galactus, he has feats that by comparison cripple Thanos. If DS wanted to, he could create the same energies which Drax used to kill thanos...its very simple how he would go down.
No not at all. Plus Darkseid has been written as a peer of Superman up until his death.

Thanos could also physically rip out his heart a lot easier than Orion. Even if Darkseid could mimic Drax's energies he wouldnt get him with his back turned.

The Great Galen Restricted

DS could just punch through his chest...doesnt matter the direction. He could also mindrape Thanos to turn his back so...yeah lol.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by The Great Galen
DS could just punch through his chest...doesnt matter the direction. He could also mindrape Thanos to turn his back so...yeah lol.
Thanos cant be mindraped and least of all by Darkseid. Which arc did he possess this ability by the way?

Darkseid cant punch through Supermans chest so he cant punch through Thanos' chest.

The Great Galen Restricted

Supes has vastly better durability then Thanos....Thanos was cut by wolverine, hell the guy was afraid to get into it with Hulk. DS has mindraped skyfather level beings before...it gonna happen trust me.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Supes has vastly better durability then Thanos....Thanos was cut by wolverine, hell the guy was afraid to get into it with Hulk. DS has mindraped skyfather level beings before...it gonna happen trust me.
Darkseid was left bleeding from a Batkick which is less than Wolvies claws. Thanos has far greater durability than Supes. His tussle with Thor with the power gem and Odin is evidence of this.

Which beings did he mindrape?

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I looked something over on this subject.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SupermanBatman23-27.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SupermanBatman23-28.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SupermanBatman24-01.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/wor2.jpg

http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=metron3fq5.jpg

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii236/Syms_Photos/MetronBioPower.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/TheLegion029-05.jpg

Darkseid has advanced temporal awareness. Even to the point of seeing other multiverses and timelines. So even discounting Geoff's statements, there's a very strong case right for Darkseid knowing about his future. 2nd, GDS Darkseid was repeatedly stated as being WEAKER than normal Darkeid. Even after draining Mordru and the Controller, he said he was still weaker than normal. 3rdly, Foundations.

Considering the equivocations of these statements you're making, quanchi112 has a good point. Exactly which Darkseid was 30th century Darkseid referring to? Better question, how does anybody really know? Instead of engaging in equivocations, it's much simpler following forum rules: Current incarnations count for the thread. 30th century Darkseid does not equal current Darkseid. The forum rules are simple. If you want to use 30th century Darkseid in another thread, you're free to make one. Until then, current Darkseid has not created Validus.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
DS if he is written to his true power is basically comparable to Galactus, he has feats that by comparison cripple Thanos. If DS wanted to, he could create the same energies which Drax used to kill thanos...its very simple how he would go down.
Darkseid with significant powerups may have feats comparable to Galactus. Stayne's creation has already been subject to argument. And since when did the thread give Darkseid the same knowledge and powers as Kronos and Mentor? The beings (one of whom is an Abstract entity) who recreated Drax from soil with this so-called Thanos-cide power? Forum rules state that characters have basic knowledge of each other. Again, if you want to make a thread where Darkseid has Mentor's and Kronos' knowledge and power, then by all means. Til then, your theory wouldn't really work at all given the forum rules.

The Great Galen Restricted

Thor wasn't impressive with the PG, it wasn't anything Supes with a sundip couldnt do. Thanos live has been threaten by blast Supes would laugh at, plus Thanos is afraid to confront Hulk.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Considering the equivocations of these statements you're making, quanchi112 has a good point. Exactly which Darkseid was 30th century Darkseid referring to? Better question, how does anybody really know? Instead of engaging in equivocations, it's much simpler following forum rules: Current incarnations count for the thread. 30th century Darkseid does not equal current Darkseid. The forum rules are simple. If you want to use 30th century Darkseid in another thread, you're free to make one. Until then, current Darkseid has not created Validus.
Darkseid with significant powerups may have feats comparable to Galactus. Stayne's creation has already been subject to argument. And since when did the thread give Darkseid the same knowledge and powers as Kronos and Mentor? The beings (one of whom is an Abstract entity) who recreated Drax from soil with this so-called Thanos-cide power? Forum rules state that characters have basic knowledge of each other. Again, if you want to make a thread where Darkseid has Mentor's and Kronos' knowledge and power, then by all means. Til then, your theory wouldn't really work at all given the forum rules.
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quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Thor wasn't impressive with the PG, it wasn't anything Supes with a sundip couldnt do. Thanos live has been threaten by blast Supes would laugh at, plus Thanos is afraid to confront Hulk.
Heres the difference. Thanos could hand with Thor with the pg while Darkseid couldnt hang with a sunamped superman for more than a few moments.

In one instance Thanos received a bloody nose and smiled and in the other instance Darkseid receieved a broken face and a one way ticket to the source wall.

Please note the differences and that Superman iwth a sunamp isnt as powerful as with a sundip.

The Great Galen Restricted

Supes is more powerful then Thor by a wide margin, Thor w/pg couldnt take supes so that argument is useless. Not to mention Supes has cheapshotted DS with a haymaker shot that didn't even stun him...not even a bloddy nose. DS would use the drax energy and simply punch through Thanos for the win.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
Heres the difference. Thanos could hand with Thor with the pg while Darkseid couldnt hang with a sunamped superman for more than a few moments.

In one instance Thanos received a bloody nose and smiled and in the other instance Darkseid receieved a broken face and a one way ticket to the source wall.

Please note the differences and that Superman iwth a sunamp isnt as powerful as with a sundip.

So what you're saying is if A is greater than B and C is Less than D that A is greater than C?

what if B=1, A=2, C=3 D=4?

Then your argument fails.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Considering the equivocations of these statements you're making, quanchi112 has a good point. Exactly which Darkseid was 30th century Darkseid referring to? Better question, how does anybody really know? Instead of engaging in equivocations, it's much simpler following forum rules: Current incarnations count for the thread. 30th century Darkseid does not equal current Darkseid. The forum rules are simple. If you want to use 30th century Darkseid in another thread, you're free to make one. Until then, current Darkseid has not created Validus.
Darkseid with significant powerups may have feats comparable to Galactus. Stayne's creation has already been subject to argument. And since when did the thread give Darkseid the same knowledge and powers as Kronos and Mentor? The beings (one of whom is an Abstract entity) who recreated Drax from soil with this so-called Thanos-cide power? Forum rules state that characters have basic knowledge of each other. Again, if you want to make a thread where Darkseid has Mentor's and Kronos' knowledge and power, then by all means. Til then, your theory wouldn't really work at all given the forum rules.
darksied is not comparible to galactus unless he's a giant. not that it matters. thanos isn't even anywhere near as powerful as darksied. nor is thanos anywhere near as durable or strong or fast as superman. thanos has energy fist which is why he hits so hard. but we never see him doing any for real awesome strength feats on his own without those energy hands. and that could just be to add zing to his punches.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by fangirl101
darksied is not comparible to galactus unless he's a giant. not that it matters. thanos isn't even anywhere near as powerful as darksied. nor is thanos anywhere near as durable or strong or fast as superman. thanos has energy fist which is why he hits so hard. but we never see him doing any for real awesome strength feats on his own without those energy hands. and that could just be to add zing to his punches.
Huh?

Superman and Thor are peers while Thanos could destroy either of these two. We know Thanos is above them because these two have met and were very impressed with one another with supes getting a close win. Thanos also destroys the Surfer who could get the majority against Superman.