im gonna have to say Bats wins but for no reason any bats fanboy would say. Since Cap was weak and very normal b4 he took the SSS and it amped him to a certain level. But if you take a batman which is a peak human subject and give him the same juice and it works he will end up being physically superior to Cap. I say this as long as all bat fanboys agree that baseline bats is physically inferior to cap in all ways.
As for the MA i think they are even they both know a ton and Cap can adapt to a person's attack extremely well and fast.
so yeah bats 6/10
Originally posted by golem370
Batman is already peak human like cap he lifts around 600lbs
You mean over 800lbs.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Many are peak human. Cap is the peak of human "potential".Its been defined as the maximum human level to even further explained as "the next step in human evolution". Batman is not that.
He is now. maybe even a little better.
Past threads have gone on for dozens of pages debating who was better in hand to hand combat. Right off the bat, it should tell you if the debate goes on for that long, that if there is any difference, it is minuscule and not worth debating. They are for all intents and purposes, equal.
The super soldier serum brings a human being, regardless of whatever previous physique, to peak human (and keeps them there). Batman has trained himself already peak human, if not nearly peak human, so the only advantage he would gain from the serum is the unlimited stamina, and a small possible boost to his muscles to if he isn't already peak human.
Without the serum, I favored Captain America slightly due to his unlimited stamina, and being able to wear down Batman over time. Now that both men have it, they are equals. I know some people don't want to hear it, but that's my opinion on that matter.
50/50 split right down the middle for both men if Batman has the Super Soldier Serum.
-Evangel94
Originally posted by Marvelknight
He is now. maybe even a little better.
Yes by this imaginary scenario he is. But I was talking about the former.
I imagine under these circumstances Batman would win the majority.
Batman trained to be perfect as perfect as he good be anyhow. A advance athlete in peak condition. But its not the same as being the peak of human potential as stated to be the next step in human evolution.
This is why Reinstein declared Steve a man unlike the world has "never" seen before.