Originally posted by Becci
😄You are probably thinking about:
http://img101.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc278&image=d54_batbeam4.jpg
or
http://img111.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc192&image=b12_baton2.jpgI meant:
http://img21.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc244&image=77c_bat1000.jpg😊
Hopefully does the link work this way hmm
yeah, thats pretty good too. And yeah, they work.
Originally posted by Lord Feronhttp://www.batman-of-gotham.supanet.com/Batman_JLAMember_JimLee.jpg
I seen the lame scan of batman handing cassadra (could be wrong( a disk with 127 martial arts teaching on it. But its not like he said "i've masters everything on this disk which is 127 different types of martial arts) Its no different then me giving someone a big dictionary and saying there are a million different words in here, please learn them. Did i say i knew all these words? no
Originally posted by Marvelknight
There is nothing to disagree with. Batman does match cap physically in terms of fighting, except stamina. And becuase Batman doesn't have the SSS he would need to push himself a lot harder. With it, he would act no different. He already has what it takes to beat Cap without it. What in gods name make you think that he can't with the serum?
Of course there is stuff to disagree with silly, for i will not bother with this debate if i didn't disagree as much as i do with you.
The bats does not have what it takes to be Cap. With the serum he would be on even terms with cap. Yes i know you are going to disagree but please stuff saying "push himself alot harder" does this show his determination? it is not without a dobut in my mind that Cap has pushed himself constantly to fight toe to with meta humans and super villians that are far and above cap himself. As a soldier he is suppose to be the best god damn soldier ever. You think a whole contry riding on you to save them, you think he won't push hard? You think be didn't push himself even before he had the SSS.
This is my math Cap > Bates and Cap = Bates + SSS
Originally posted by MarvelknightCap knew Judo, Karate, and kick boxing before WW2 and for most of his life.
Please dont take the piss we already told you he mastered every martial art during WW2.
Originally posted by MarvelknightHe was frozen in a block of ice. By the time he was found. Bruce had already became Batman.
So Cap had forgotten everything. You dont actually know what stage Bruce was it but he would at least be at the beginning of his career and Cap would still have more experience.
Originally posted by Juntai
http://www.batman-of-gotham.supanet.com/Batman_JLAMember_JimLee.jpg
There it is, thanks
Keyword being "virtually" and cap on the other hand cap mastered "every" martial arts adds to my case on how cap is better then bats and with the sss i guess bats can stalemate but its only a maybe.
Without the serum Bats loses.
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5899/jlaavengers0207zn6.jpg
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/4180/027avengersjla004rembrazg6.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7108/028avengersjla004rembraxf2.jpg
http://img43.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=dcd_batcap2c.jpg
With it he draws.
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneBut you show him tying twice without it. And forgot to show Batman beating him in Marvel/DC while you're pulling out the Crossovers.
Without the serum Bats loses.http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5899/jlaavengers0207zn6.jpg
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/4180/027avengersjla004rembrazg6.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7108/028avengersjla004rembraxf2.jpghttp://img43.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=dcd_batcap2c.jpg
With it he draws.
And Adept and Master are very different things. Not to mention that one is a written statement about the character, and the other is just a random claim from a character and when looking at the things characters constantly claim, doesn't hold the same weight.
Originally posted by Lord FeronGot a scan to prove he's mastered every form of combat?
There it is, thanksKeyword being "virtually" and cap on the other hand cap mastered "every" martial arts adds to my case on how cap is better then bats and with the sss i guess bats can stalemate but its only a maybe.
Originally posted by Juntai
But you show him tying twice without it.
What?
Originally posted by Juntai
And forgot to show Batman beating him in Marvel/DC while you're pulling out the Crossovers.
What does that prove. It proves that Batman can beat Cap thats all, but the links above show that Cap will probably beat Batman for the majority.
Originally posted by Juntai
And Adept and Master are very different things.
Anyway that was back in WW2.
Originally posted by Juntai
Not to mention that one is a written statement about the character, and the other is just a random claim from a character and when looking at the things characters constantly claim, doesn't hold the same weight.
So you think Caps showings contradict what was said? Even if it is a random statement Cap is one of those characters who tend not to exaggerate and say what they mean so we can assume hes telling the truth.
This is just adding what Brubaker said about Batman and Cap. Brubaker as far as I know has written for both Cap and Batman.
Originally posted by Phantom Zonehttp://www.comicboards.com/camb/view.php?rpl=060330214926
"Just physical exertion. While I don't think of Cap as 'super' like Spider-man or Superman, he's clearly not Batman with a shield. He's not just like a guy who works out all the time and is trained. He's been enhanced, and I wanted to show that a bit."
"See, I never understand why everyone gets so worked up about this stuff. Cap was given the Super-Soldier Serum. The first word there is SUPER. He's not superman, but clearly, he's been shown to be much faster and stronger than a well-trained athlete, many many times. One of everyone's favorite Cap appearances seems to be DD: Born Again, where he's shown running to fast that he's a breeze."
http://www.comicboards.com/camb/view.php?rpl=060418204829&q=ed%20brubaker
"I see it as he's the ultimate of human potential. Not something the modern man could ever be, but like an evolutionary next-step, basically. He's not Thor or Spiderman, but he's not Batman, either."
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneNah. Your wrong.
Without the serum Bats loses.http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5899/jlaavengers0207zn6.jpg
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/4180/027avengersjla004rembrazg6.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7108/028avengersjla004rembraxf2.jpghttp://img43.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=dcd_batcap2c.jpg
With it he draws.
Originally posted by Doc. Savage
Which means jack shit.Never try using writers comments.
Exept Bru isn't basing it on just his comment but the past books...LOL
Bru saids ultimate human. Thats why Cap's been called Perfect Man or having the strength of 10(like Slade)
Bru states the next step in human evolution.
Thats why in the min-series of Operation Rebirth SSS, Dr. Reinstein declares Cap the next step in human "evolution."
Bru knows his continuity.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Exept Bru isn't basing it on just his comment but the past books...LOLBru saids ultimate human. Thats why Cap's been called Perfect Man or having the strength of 10(like Slade)
Bru states the next step in human evolution.
Thats why in the min-series of Operation Rebirth SSS, Dr. Reinstein declares Cap the next step in human "evolution."
Bru knows his continuity.
Don't worry hes just a SOCK.
Originally posted by Lord Feron
wow thats pretty damn good Phantom zone. I thought this debate was gonna be long and annoying but hey you just one shotted them lol. *high five*
Lol cheers. 👆 The links are darthgoober's, the quotes from Brubaker are due to Daredevil1....not sure about the pic.
