tell you what? that its not an official fact?
its not. why? because its never been stated that he sank the island. the last time we see the island, a part of it is burning. then it says that the island disappears which could mean several things.
that's why its SFfanboy lore. no official word has ever been said about it. Darkstorm actually admitted to that a few pages back, but seems to disagree now.
its the same as when people say that SF1 Evil Ryu was as strong as SF3 Ryu. "strong" in japanese games is equivalent to skill, not strenght as such. we can clearly see this in the fact that in several mangas, animes and other videogames a person who is clearly physically stronger than somebody else would say that they are equal in strength. of the top of my head:
-Hajime no Ippo: miyata has always been said to have light punches while ippo has insane power in his. yet, they repeatedly say that miyata is stronger than ippo. clearly, they mean he's more skilled than Ippo given that he's a natural.
-Street Fighter VS X-men: against apocolypse, your fighter says "for now, let the stronger one survive". clearly apocolypse is leagues ahead in physical strength. strong just means skill...which would actually make sense too.
that's why SF3 ryu is simply as skilled as SF1 Evil Ryu. otherwise he wouldn't be incapable of cutting hugo in half with his shitshoryuken and be a direct contradiction to his so-called "strenght feats".
that's why its called "fanlore".
~Sado
These last couple post are all B.S. for this reason here...
"Following a path of pure evil, Akuma traveled to a small island south of Japan, filled with active volcanoes, known as the Island of Flame (Gokentou). He spent many weeks training there before destroying the island and heading out across the world in search of worthy opponents...."
That was taken straight from his profile in SFEC, hate all you want but don't try to take away the man's feats...
I love disprovin the "haterish" claims of haters 😄
These last couple post are all B.S. for this reason here...
"Following a path of pure evil, Akuma traveled to a small island south of Japan, filled with active volcanoes, known as the Island of Flame (Gokentou). He spent many weeks training there before destroying the island and heading out across the world in search of worthy opponents...."
That was taken straight from his profile in SFEC, hate all you want but don't try to take away the man's feats...
I love disprovin the "haterish" claims of haters
i love it when idiot fans wind up proving the other guy's points without even knowing it. thanks.
so people...........any arguments? or are we finally going to stop saying "akuma can sink islands with a punch" BS?
~Sado
Originally posted by Sado22Did you even read his post? I mean really? Cause you are sounding like the idiot yourself by spouting your bullshit.
pay attention next time, sherlock.
we're talking about akuma suppossedly sinking an island in SFA2 with one punch. which, as you happened to prove, isn't what happened. for one, according to your source it took him at least a weeks to destroy an island. secondly, he didn't do it with one punch by a longshot. third, he didn't sink it.i love it when idiot fans wind up proving the other guy's points without even knowing it. thanks.
so people...........any arguments? or are we finally going to stop saying "akuma can sink islands with a punch" BS?
~Sado
His source didn't say it took him weeks to destroy the friggin island.
It said he spent weeks training there and then destroyed it.
Yet it took him weeks to destroy the island?
And in canon in the ending, we see Gouki punch the ground, then we see Ryu in water.
So by adding 1+1 of course Gouki sank the island.
My God your and hate for SF is unbelievable.
My god.... Talk about trying to warp what I say into something completely different...
Sado... Tell me, in your holier than thou way of logic, explain to me what happened to the island? if Akuma's punch didn't sink it, then where did it go? up his ass? hell? an alternate dimension? where? I could pull a Wandering Flame moment and say Akuma took the area out of existance, greatly hyping the feat to rediculous levels, Would that be more to your liking? Didn't think so...
For christs sake... your trying to devalue so many points it's not funny, yet Goentiz wrecking a stadium with a hurricane or Devil Jin destroying a forest is indisputable, AND because of those feats they kick SF ass everywhere, including people who destroy entire cities, sink islands and cause meteor storms, simply because you don't want to see any SFer win.
This kind of eschewed logic is endlessly boring and agitating. And more importantly, it is false...
We see this from our Sado so often, it is to be expected, all because he accuses the real SFer fanboys of saying Sakura beats Kazuya (This claim, I've never seen BTW, and I'd never defend such a claim...)
His source didn't say it took him weeks to destroy the friggin island. It said he spent weeks training there and then destroyed it.
And in canon in the ending, we see Gouki punch the ground, then we see Ryu in water. So by adding 1+1 of course Gouki sank the island.
My God your and hate for SF is unbelievable.
Sado... Tell me, in your holier than thou way of logic
explain to me what happened to the island?
if Akuma's punch didn't sink it, then where did it go? up his ass?
I could pull a Wandering Flame moment and say Akuma took the area out of existance, greatly hyping the feat to rediculous levels, Would that be more to your liking? Didn't think so...
For christs sake... your trying to devalue so many points it's not funny
yet Goentiz wrecking a stadium with a hurricane or Devil Jin destroying a forest is indisputable
AND because of those feats they kick SF ass everywhere, including people who destroy entire cities
sink islands
because you don't want to see any SFer win.
~Sado
Originally posted by Sado221. Yeah, he can, since that is what he did, with a special attack,. When he was training, he didn't WANT to sink the island. Took him weeks, yet it clearly shows him destroying it in one punch. You are so full of shit man. Ryu dodged them, and those were just normal Hadoukens.
dude, seriously, what do you think it means? he can punch and *cough* sink an island but for whole weeks he can't do that while training? and keep in mind that when he trains, he is ShinAkuma level...he's no holds-barred training and kicking everything around him to kingdom come. so yeah, it took him weeks to destroy the island. also in the latest SF4 video he throws a shower of hadoukens that barely did any damage.are you serious? ryu being in the water proves that the island sunk?! that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard. notice, for one, i'm saying that he didn't [b]sink
the island. not saying he didn't destroy it. if the island got destroyed, then that explains ryu being in the water too. dah.oh shut up... [/B]
2. So he destroyed it? If the island didn't sink, where is it now? You know what, I actually think Gouki picked up the island and threw it in the sun, yep, that's what he did.
3. Nah.
ryu dodged it. at least gouki's hadoukens caused an explosion.
1. Yeah, he can, since that is what he did, with a special attack,. When he was training, he didn't WANT to sink the island. Took him weeks, yet it clearly shows him destroying it in one punch.
You are so full of shit man.
Ryu dodged them
and those were just normal Hadoukens.
~Sado
P.S. is there gonna be a 3rd season for bible black?
Originally posted by Sado22Lol, take yo own advice...
pay attention next time, sherlock.
Originally posted by Sado22He destroyed it 1 punch.
we're talking about akuma suppossedly sinking an island in SFA2 with one punch.
Originally posted by Sado22You right...the feat is now even better...
which, as you happened to prove, isn't what happened.
Originally posted by Sado22WTF were you readin? "He spent many weeks training" not spent many weeks destroyin the island...deedeedeeee...
for one, according to your source it took him at least a weeks to destroy an island.
What you made out of that is pretty retarded. 😆
Originally posted by Sado22secondly, he did do it with one punch . Third, he not only sunk it but he destroyed.
secondly, he didn't do it with one punch by a longshot. third, he didn't sink it.
Originally posted by Sado22Well then me and you got somethin in common.
i love it when idiot fans wind up proving the other guy's points without even knowing it. thanks.
Originally posted by Sado22Yeah we gonna stop now. Only to say Akuma can sink AND destroy islands wit a punch...
so people...........any arguments? or are we finally going to stop saying "akuma can sink islands with a punch" BS?
You really suck at this Sado...
Originally posted by Sado221. Ryu's Hadoukens are as strong as a well landed kick, cause Ryu's Hadoukens are non-lethal. Gouki's Hadoukens are lethal. And they never hit Ryu, they caused holes in the ground and caused fire to shoot up though. So going by that said Hadoukens would go right through Cloud...Or Jin.
they barely even created a crater. even the explosions were puny. and this guy's supposed to sink island. and remember that hadoukens are supposed to be as strong as his blows and should be rendering people incinerated or disintegrated as far as lore goes 😆actually it doesn't "clearly show" shit. clearly show would be we seeing him punch the island and instead of that small part of the island being on fire, we see it shattering away. ryu jumping in the water doesn't proove that the island was destroyed either cuz he could have just jumped in the water to avoid teh explosion or he could have been caught in the explosion of that punch. amongst other things.
, that i didn't say he didn't destroy the island. just so that we are clear.
once again, i want to bring it to the attention of the [b]SF Emo Squadmy heart weeps😐
most of them missed him while he was lying ass up on the ground actually.
which were supposed to be people-disintegrating-vaporizing-god-blasts as far as the SF Emo Squad is conscerned. and that move was the tenma-gou-zankuu, which is a special. so much for godbusting, earthwrecking, thread to humanity Akuma that YOU used to say he is.
~Sado
P.S. is there gonna be a 3rd season for bible black? [/B]
2. He punched the island. The island was destroyed. Answer my question, did he blow the island up? That only makes the feat better, to be able to annihilate an island in one blow. Oh and granted I will admit that he did it with a special technique, not every punch is island wrecking. Ryu didn't jump in the water, it just showed him in water. And there isn't any proof at all to make us saying he destroyed the island in one punch wrong.
Said special is just a flurry of Hadoukens so what is your point?
3. Ryu leaped from the ground.
Ok, now I'm going to totally bring you down Sado, your misconceptions about me, and abouit your arguments 😮💨
Originally posted by Sado22
holier than thou? you guys seem to running this whole gig here where its blasphemous to actually support anyone besides a Capcom created character. we have your theories that the island was huge but you refute jin destroying the forest by saying it was part of the forest....when his prologue clearly says he destroyed the forest. then you insist that Jinpachi is no match for gouki despite jinpachi being a legitimate threat to existence on the whole planet. something, gouki never has been. you refute the countless videos and picks we sent you.
holier than thou? right...as long as you mean, daring to say the SF guy would lose, then yeah i probably am.
Yes, holier than though, because unless I'm Sado66, I can never be right, can I?
WTF? I never said anyone can't support anyone they want, all I have ever asked of anyone is to do it, thoughtfully, respectfully, and more importantly, with appropriate EVIDENCE, All I see these days is people trying to tear down their opponents feats with everything they can, thats not debating, thats throwing dirt.
My theories? The place had large underground tunnel systems, And then you people try to say it's a tny 4x4 meter island, which is the biggest joke of all, considering the thing had a mountain on it... The forest? what forest? how big was it roughly? a mile? 2 miles worth of forest? give me something quantifiable, then I'll do a calc on how much force is needed to destroy it. all you've given me is "Jin destroys forest, therefore he pwns"... I can't calc that... If I where to calc him destroying all of the South American forest (Brazillian forest A.K.A the Amazon jungle) then you'd have a feat I could quantify as being higher than just about anything Gouki could do.
Jinpachi? Where have I said that? I said hos world killer powers where never confirmed... which it hasn't...., then I said to Wandering, and to you, than anyone can be a threat to "All life", one life at a time, which is how you described it... What, it was your own logic, not mine. That and, Jinpachi doesn't have a single actual feat to his name other than holding up Honmaru for 50 years...
What videos and picks? the same ones that show absolutely nothing? or the ones not even directed at me? I don't disreguard evidence like you did with the Goenitz argument Sado...
Originally posted by Sado22
are you guys brain dead? you posted this retarted longass post long time back where you explained how akuma shattered the tectonic plates and godknowswhat when he did that in SFA2. i said, no, the ending doesn't say that he sank the island...let alone crumbling tectonic plates. i'm saying the same thing now. I'm saying he probably destroyed it. which happens to be the same thing stated on that source that Jedah guy posted.
now go and look up "destroy".
Are you for real? The tectonic plate thing was the absolue high end calc of the feat, I'm talking the most outlandishly fanwanked calc, which if you'll notice, I said I didn't agree with, as 240 Megatonne PSI punching power is midlevel Darkstalker stuff that Akuma should never ever posess... Way to assume $h!t Sado, you do that very often...
Ok Sado, THIS is where your "Holier than thou" attitude comes in, since matter cannot be "Destroyed", only changed from one form into another, I'll ask again, in your mind, where is the islank, because if it didn't sink, then it has to be somewhere, logic and physics dictate that the island, or at least it's remnants are at the bottom of the sea. I said it in the post above, and I'll say it again here, if it's not, then it's either in an alternate dimension according to you, which is an even bigger feat than 240 megatonne PSI punches... which is rediculous.
Use your head... think... physics and logic still have a place, even in videogames as warped as Street Fighter...
Originally posted by Sado22
who knows. the guy's been alone for over 40 years, right? 🙂
Youse a sick man, mane 😈 😘
Originally posted by Sado22
keep wanderingflame out of this. he didn't spew as much lore and unproven things as you do. hadn't been for him and me, people like you and that idiot tricksterpriest would still be commenting on how 3D guys don't stand a chance.
Bull$h!t... WF was the worst case of unproven babble I've seen, Denial too...
Did you just lump me with SFer fanboys?! What the hell are you smoking? I said many times I didn't care what format a character is from, I don't debate a character because of their format, I debate them based on what I can see them do on screen... I never said that trumped up bull that you claim anyone who supports 2d vs 3d says 2d characters, no matter how weak beats 3d fighters no matter how strong... you lifted that from your argument with Remy and have been using it to generalise anyone who doesn't agree with you. In that area, I never agreed with Preist, hell even C Master didn't agree with that, and he is a huge fan of 2D fighters.. I dunno what event happened when you first came here caused this, but you have been on an endless vendetta for a while now, and for what? Because one or two people scorned you?
Originally posted by Sado22
i'm not refuting anything. i said he didn't sink teh island which is a bloody fact. it never said anywhere that he sank it. no arguments about him destroying it...but nope, he didn't sink it.
Bloody Fact is it? Go read the previous entry about this and see if your "Bloody Fact" floats.
Originally posted by Sado22
because the prologue said that Devil Jin destroyed the forest.
Read above, it's unquantifiable... As far as the eye can see is about 1.5 to 2 miles at ground level, which is impressive, but nowhere near enough to match feats... give me something I can use.
Originally posted by Sado22
make a thread right now pitting ryu against hwoarang and i'll tell you who'd win. i've supported SF'ers when i see them winning. which is the point of debating. unlike you, i don't go blindly supporting SF'ers just cuz they are SF'ers and throw a tantrum cuz somebody insulted my precious SF'ers.
You sir, have NEVER supported a SFer... Ever. Not to mention you even go into respect threads and say how piss-poor a character from SFer is, this alone proves you to be bias. That and, I don't care where a character comes from, if I beleve they will win, then I'll debate that, The fact that they are SFer characters has nothing to do with why I debate them, you love trying to put words in my mouth Sado, but no, the fact that they are SFers is not why I debate them.
In fact, about 95% of my debates isn't about who wins or loses, you'll notice that for the most part, it's about getting the correct information on the screen rather than the trumped up crap and the stupid attacks on characters, people attack character and feat validity like a jackhammer now, because they are looking for any way possible to keep it out... Which is what your doing now.
Originally posted by Sado22
which he didn't
Read above, and prove your claim then. saying the island dissapeared can be taken in so many ways, but the fact is, Akuma's island is gone, and his punch caused it. Now unless you have an explanation, then it sank as in "Dissapeared beneath the waves"
Originally posted by Sado22
right...and since you've been always supporting the Tekken guys since i can remember. i've been here for 2 years, and i've yet to see you side with anyone besides and SF'er.~Sado
Then you'r blind Sado, I support many different characters across many different genre, fighting games to be sure, FPS RPGs, Styrategy, Side Scrollers, action games...
Onlyu support SFers my @$$, you'r so desperate now to cover your own bias... 😆
Ok, now I'm going to totally bring you down Sado, your misconceptions about me, and abouit your arguments
Yes, holier than though, because unless I'm Sado66, I can never be right, can I?
WTF? I never said anyone can't support anyone they want, all I have ever asked of anyone is to do it, thoughtfully, respectfully, and more importantly, with appropriate EVIDENCE, All I see these days is people trying to tear down their opponents feats with everything they can, thats not debating, thats throwing dirt.
My theories? The place had large underground tunnel systems, And then you people try to say it's a tny 4x4 meter island
which is the biggest joke of all, considering the thing had a mountain on it... The forest? what forest? how big was it roughly? a mile? 2 miles worth of forest? give me something quantifiable, then I'll do a calc on how much force is needed to destroy it.
all you've given me is "Jin destroys forest, therefore he pwns"... I can't calc that... If I where to calc him destroying all of the South American forest (Brazillian forest A.K.A the Amazon jungle) then you'd have a feat I could quantify as being higher than just about anything Gouki could do.
The tectonic plate thing was the absolue high end calc of the feat, I'm talking the most outlandishly fanwanked calc, which if you'll notice, I said I didn't agree with, as 240 Megatonne PSI punching power is midlevel Darkstalker stuff that Akuma should never ever posess. Way to assume $h!t Sado, you do that very often.
Ok Sado, THIS is where your "Holier than thou" attitude comes in, since matter cannot be "Destroyed", only changed from one form into another, I'll ask again, in your mind, where is the island, because if it didn't sink, then it has to be somewhere, logic and physics dictate that the island, or at least it's remnants are at the bottom of the sea.
I said it in the post above, and I'll say it again here, if it's not, then it's either in an alternate dimension according to you, which is an even bigger feat than 240 megatonne PSI punches... which is rediculous.
Use your head... think... physics and logic still have a place, even in videogames as warped as Street Fighter...
Youse a sick man, mane
Did you just lump me with SFer fanboys?!
you lifted that from your argument with Remy and have been using it to generalise anyone who doesn't agree with you.
I dunno what event happened when you first came here caused this, but you have been on an endless vendetta for a while now, and for what? Because one or two people scorned you?
and for record, Dark-Jaxx is still going on with this babble on how the dolls>>jacks, despite having no proof and having no feats to back him up.
Read above, it's unquantifiable... As far as the eye can see is about 1.5 to 2 miles at ground level, which is impressive, but nowhere near enough to match feats... give me something I can use.
You sir, have NEVER supported a SFer... Ever.
Not to mention you even go into respect threads and say how piss-poor a character from SFer is, this alone proves you to be bias.
you love trying to put words in my mouth Sado, but no, the fact that they are SFers is not why I debate them.
In fact, about 95% of my debates isn't about who wins or loses, you'll notice that for the most part, it's about getting the correct information on the screen rather than the trumped up crap and the stupid attacks on characters, people attack character and feat validity like a jackhammer now, because they are looking for any way possible to keep it out... Which is what your doing now.
Onlyu support SFers my @$$, you'r so desperate now to cover your own bias.
~Sado
1. Ryu's Hadoukens are as strong as a well landed kick, cause Ryu's Hadoukens are non-lethal.
they caused holes in the ground and caused fire to shoot up though.
So going by that said Hadoukens would go right through Cloud...Or Jin.
2. He punched the island. The island was destroyed. Answer my question, did he blow the island up? That only makes the feat better, to be able to annihilate an island in one blow.
I will admit that he did it with a special technique, not every punch is island wrecking.
Ryu didn't jump in the water, it just showed him in water.
And there isn't any proof at all to make us saying he destroyed the island in one punch wrong.
Said special is just a flurry of Hadoukens so what is your point?
3. Ryu leaped from the ground.
~Sado