Kit, Saesee, and Kolar were also called some of the best swordsmen in the history of the Order, and were just involved in the single most destructive conflict in history up until that point; they all gained plenty of experience, and it so happens that over the time, the Jedi would logically improve and further study, develop their techniques and all; Farfalla, while probably powerful, was not likely as powerful as Mace's team.
Since when was the Clone Wars the single most destructive conflict in History?
The New Jedi-Sith Wars had been going on for a thousand years, saw a consistent decline in Republic Power as mineral mines ran dry and thousands of megacorporations went bankrupt, saw Republic borders beginning to shrink for the first time in millenia as colony worlds dried up and were abandonned, and featured such disasters as the destruction of the Ubese homeworld that made the planet inhospitable and forced its survivors to live the rest of their days under filtration helmets and the outbreak of the Candorian Plague that that killed off as much as two thirds of the civilians of some major highly pupulated centers. The Jedi were plagued by scandal, hardship bred lawlesness, and the final hundred years were known as the Republic's Dark Dage, where the Republic could no longer afford to maintain its communication network, dropping all settlements outside the Core off the grid and forcing them to rely on Hyperspace courier ships. The Sith were known to have grown exponentially strong during the period, ravaging numerous star systems, and Jedi casualties had grown so high that Jedi Scouts were now taking in any children with even a hint of Force Sensitivity.
The New Jedi-Sith War was far more destructive than the Clone Wars, especially in respect to the Jedi, Sith and Republic.
In terms of battle experience, the Jedi in the Army of Light were born into such a War, fought in it for nearly their entire life, and regularly met dark side lightsaber wielding Force users in combat.
The PT Jedi, on the other hand, only fought in a war that lasted just three years, facing minimal action against Dark Jedi or Sith if any.
And while it's possible that they may have developed and refined techniques over the thousand years that followed, until you can prove that they even felt the need to (what with the Jedi's new role as ambassadors, their turning away from their militancy, due to the believed end of the Sith threat), all it amounts to is blind supposition.
(All of what I mentioned can be found on page 26 of the 2005 Chronology for the record.)
Of course, the BM can be taken into account;
And given how Farfalla described it, and the effect it had on Johun when it was not being used, it's uite clear that it was pretty considerable (I would provide the quotes, but Faunus already did, so no need).
and while Farfalla's form was called 'perfect', it's likely that this BM doesn't increase one's technical ability, but rather their speed, reflexes, and strength;
As I know; I was making a case for how considerable he was without the BM. Something else I just found out about him as well: on the same page of the 2005 Chronology, it was stated that the Jedi had raised three champions (which most certainly is indicative of power) and that along with Hoth and Kiel Charney, he was one of them. It really is quite clear that he was exceptionally powerful, he may have even been more powerful than Raskta (while obviously inferior in saber ability, far superior with the Force).
of course it made him more formidable, but a simple, ordinary BM won't nearly be enough to empower someone to an ability that he can clearly surpass his superiors.
Simple, ordinary BM? Worror, who was extremely powerful, was described as an absolute Master of it, and a talanted veteran of the ability, and Farfalla was taken aback by the extent that it had been empowering him by, and Johun felt the negative effects of no longer receiving its benefits quite strongly. It was far from simple, ordinary BM, and would logically make a Force far more poweful than they usually would be, and given that Farfalla, by virtue of all the evidence that has provided would logically at least be on their level without the effects of BM, with it, he's likely a level above -- more specifically, on the level of someone like Mace Windu, and it's made quite clear that he simply wasn't even close to being a match for Bane, with a lightsaber (when Bane and Farfalla initiated combat, Bane was capable of knocking his saber from his hand with one hit, and almost tore his arm off) or with the Force (Bane's attacks were described as tearing through Farfalla's defences, and even when gathering orce energies, he was only capable of overpowering Bane for a split second).
You're going to have to prove to me that Mace's team was not well-coordinated or had plenty of teamwork, as they had functioned before as a team and likely sparred together; Sidious simply overwhelmed them. With relative ease. No amount of teamwork could allow them to overcome Sidious' vast superiority over all of them save for Mace.
Already adressed this, and again, while they were known to have fought together before, never against a single dark side lightsaber wielding Force User.
Huh? Sure, Raskta had her 'rep', but Mace was capable of decimating massive armies of battle droids- actually super battle droids- with his bare hands.
Well if you're going to compare them by what they've demonstrated, Raskta's naturally going to be at a disadvantage given how outside of her reputation and how she performed against Bane, we know next to nothing about her, whereas Mace Windu has had numerous of his exploits documented.
However, where we can compare them: training, experience, and such, Raskta has him beaten by a mile. I'm not going to go into how the Army of Light's training and Battle Experience owns the shit out of the PT Jedi's, because I already have, numerous times, but Raskta's experience against the Sith was notable even within her Order, to the point that she was known to have slain more Sith than even the Thought Bomb. She was also regarded as the greatest Jedi Swordsman of her era, and a more impressive era than Mace's at that. Her speed was also clearly exceptional (at least under the effects of BM), given how she was perceived by Johun -- who while pretty weak, was a trained Force userm -- to appear to be everywhere at once -- in front of Bane, behind him, and at either side. She's at the very least on Mace's level, and with the benefits of BM, quite possibly even better, or at least not too far behind.
And yet Bane was able to move at such a speed that he was capable of running at her, and almost crushing her under the wieght of his movement, failing to do so only due to a last instant evasion from the exceptional Jedi Weapons Master, and even when both her, Farfalla, and Johun (who Raskta was able to fight in concert with) were all simultaneously attacking him, they still didn't even come close to landing a blow on the one unprotected spot on his body.
He was called one of the deadliest Jedi in history, and was the only known master of the form that was called the deadliest; it also happens that the same form allowed him to reflect the attributes of a dark sider back at him. He was also in possession of more experience than Raskta, more knowledge, more respect- as attributed by his senior position on the council and his legendary reputation- and also has possession of the shatterpoint ability. Yeah, he's far more formidable than Raskta.
While I won't deny that he was probably one of the deadliest Jedi ever, it's never stated, and as established, Raskta possessed miles more experience than he did, especially in respect to other lightsaber wielding Force Users. Your assertion that Mace was more respected remains completely unproven; sure he was respected, yet Raskta was clearly very well respected within her Order as well; the other Jedi that fought with her against Bane were literally in awe of the ability she was displaying in battle, she was renowned as being the greatest swordsbeing of her Age, and Farfalla, powerful Jedi Champion, basically let her order him around during the fight without hesitation. Shatterpoint, as I said, isn't even that super effective in moving situations (such as lightsaber duels), and you have yet to substantiate the effects of Vaapad. Sure we know that it allows Mace to draw from his opponent's dark side power, and reflect it back at them, but to what degree? Is there an upper limit to its effects? Diminishing returns? Until you actually manage to substantiate the form's effects, as well as all that other stuff you just brought up, saying that he's far more powerful than Raskta is nothing more than arguing from personal incredulity.
I don't get it. Kit is stronger than Farfalla, Mace is stronger than Raskta; and Sidious still performed much better against them- and they are likely to be a coordinated team- than Bane did against Farfalla and Raskta. While it's true that Sidious was defeated by Mace, you'll have to take into account the circumstance that enabled Mace to win and the fact that Sidious was forcing him back and almost overwhelming him the entire time; Raskta and Farfalla, meanwhile, overwhelmed Bane and prevented him from launching a sufficiently good counter-offensive.
Really, I've adressed all of this. Bane performed a far better offence that Sidious did in his battle with the Masters, and it's made explicitly clear that they never even came close to harming him. Sidious stands no chance against Bane, only DE Sidious does, and even then he still loses in an extremely close battle.