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Originally posted by DarkC
That's why I ASKED, remember? Great way to acknowledge. I wouldn't be calling someone else a fool, considering how many times I've had to keep you on track.
The Burning Legion is far greater and more numerous than any other military force, undead or not, and they have been beaten back in the past by Azeroth as a united force. TWICE, I might add. For all your "knowledge" of the Warcraft universe, you seem to fail to acknowledge a few things.
Are you under the impression that the army of Undead (originating from the corpses and battlefield casualties of both sides of Azeroth alone) is greater than the Burning Legion? Remember, Sargeras came to many worlds before he found Azeroth, and he either conquered and devoured or twisted the inhabitants to his own will, adding them to his own forces.
Even before that he scoured far and wide around the UNIVERSE to find his army. His numbers are those of multiple worlds. In the War of the Ancients novels you would see the kind of scale that his army was on. The Scourge army is absolutely nothing in comparison. You have absolutely no idea of how large it actually was considering you haven't seem to have read those books, so I'll enlighten you a little:
After the countless demons passing through by the second book and fighting the defenders, one of the night elf commanders of the host says:
"By the gods, have we not made a dent in their forces yet?"
Krasus: "Yes we have....but it is a very, very small dent."
Another part describes a "sea" of demons stretching back from the front line to the very HORIZON in the distance.
Since when, historically, has the Army of the Dead fielded such an incredibly massive force? Simple. It has not. Azeroth has survived FAR worse than the Scourge army, mark my words.
You amuse me.
You seem to act like you know more about Sargeras when you actually don't. His avatar was but a small shadow of his power, the full power of his physical and spiritual being locked away in a nether region between planes. Historically, when Malfurion and Illidan collapsed the final portal, Sargeras made the mistake of attempting to step through anyways and was trapped in a bubble between worlds. When the portal disappeared, Sargeras did not die, but was trapped. Even then he managed to physically exist in Azeroth to some point and create a manifestation of himself, but because of his limited power Aegwynn was able to defeat him ably.
Not much of a threat at all? Go back to where you told me to read posts properly and ask yourself how you have the stones to tell other people that. Like I said before and that you seem to have ignored yet again, his army, the one with so many demons as to be near infinite in nature is nothing to him. I will quote the book directly here.
Commander: "What does it matter if he just stays where he is and directs him?"
Korialstrasz: "The Burning Legion is but a shadow of his terrible darkness. Trust in me that we have hope even if every demon who serves him steps through, but no hope if we defeat all only to have him step into our world."
This is getting sad.
Where does he say that he "smashes most of the world"? The only place he even affected were the northern parts of Lordaeron, Quel'thalas and some parts of Kalimdor. Whereas you see agents and forces of the Burning Legion scattered all over the world. Stop overhyping the Lich King.
The threat of Sargeras threatened to destroy the whole world as we know it, not just ambitions but actual actions. He didn't just destroy civilisation, or just one or two races. His army put the whole WORLD into calamity, that's why every single race banded together to fight him.
Have you sunk so low as to deny the lore itself? That's exactly what you're doing. Are you refusing the word of a character in the actual world itself? Are you insisting you know better than the character (more than 10,000 years old)
The word of a single dragon who is in his own right as wise and smart as the Aspects themselves and has been through both wars. He's describing someone else, not himself. His judgement is not clouded.
Narrator's words? From where? Which video?
Give me proof, whatever claim you make without proof is insignificant.
If this is Arthas just talking about himself, it kind of defies the point, since Illidan was also shooting his mouth off in the TBC opening movie.
Well now you know, read a few arguments and posts before the one your about to jump on, otherwise youll know squat and get confused like just now.
Well obviously their not the greatest military force since the scourge have not been beaten back, they simply spread, the legion has trouble getting soldiers on Azeroth so saying the entire legion was defeated is foolery, the scraps that probably came down would never defeat the undead legions at that prime. So not really, i didnt fail to acknowledge anything, yet ime doing so to your queer banter and opinion.
Yes and most of them are obviously os weak and flimsy he doesnt even want to use them, felguards and hunters seem to be his main soldier type, I mean wtf? their perhaps some of the lamest beings ive seen, they get slaughtered, for all the worlds hes met, they were likely prob all as i said before, infested with pigmies and unintelligent races, perhaps worlds of Dark c's that he defeated in the past, nothing on the scale of Azeroth which tripped him up like a buffoon. Whats the army of the undead done? oh yes, only basically succeeded where Sargerus failed, damn.
Obviously not, Azeroth was falling and fast to the scourge, what could possibly have stopped the Lich King if he had just carried on? there is no mortal army, and yes it would stretch that far, apprently the scourge around the icecrown is roughly quarter of a million. But as the legion have shown, they have chosen quantity over quality, but even so, quarter of a million is an army the likes of which nothing on Azeroth could stand against, no mortal race thats for sure. And as a second note, you dont need to read any books to know Sargerus had taken so many worlds, you see so far all youve proven is that the books add a few unimportant quotes half the time of important events you can learn about elseware.
Thats nice, at least ime funny, I simply pity you.
Your not telling me anything new here, apart from can you show me how the Avatar was so much weaker?
his army was shown to be massively useful didnt it, it really did take over Azeroth and he ruled on high and...woops...no he didnt, he was smashed to bits, thrown out into the void after his stupid plans failed, his legion gone. His army is obviously pathetic much like its leaders, it doesnt get the job done, unlike the scourge.
Being nothing to him? well thats not much is it.....they die in 10 seconds, he dies in a few hours, well done, their nothing to his incredible power...lol, the fool slipped on his @ss in most of his planning and overestimated his foes terribly. The great champion of the pantheon chucked out into the void.
Obviously those characters were misinformed, since the great and powerful Sargerus failed all his attempts, for all his power he was worthless in the end, having power and having power and knowing how to use it are very diffrent things, the fool doesnt have a clue, and ends up recieving his reward for such idoicy.
Yes, sad that i have to answer such drivel, ime glad you feel my pain.
Erm, in most of the games, he knocks out the human kingdoms, play reign of chaos...the main human monarch and cities destroyed, Dalaran ransacked of knowledge and wizards killed, Quelthalas, basically an entire race, killed, hell....if the Lich King didnt want Archimonde down here and threw off his shackles and attacked the rest of the world they would have been taken over, nothing would have stopped the scourge, unforatley....the legion let the whole plan down again, but this would help LK in the long run but still...dumb@ss legion.
The guy was useless, I dont care if he was capable or what he was capable of, he obviousyl didnt do it, and he failed in what he tried to do, does he actually succeed in doing anything this fool of a Titan? And please tell me how you think the LK is not putting the world in calamity? as i said before, he could of easily taken out the world then, let alone now when he is free and so many times more powerful than before.
No not at all, that dragon being 10k years old means nothing here, as if being 10k years old gives him knowledge of the LK? lmao....no your completly missing the point, the dragons words mean nothing unless you can prove he was not overestimating the forces completly and this dragons words are drowned out by what actually happened, the legion getting douched. That dragons words are worthless, he is not the narrator and this does not make a sinlge hint towards the power of anything on this board, especially not malygos or the LK.
Manuel of monsters RPG book, under the background of the Lich King.