Ultimate Cap vs 616 Spider-Man

Originally posted by carver9
So wolverine dont have a problem hurting his teammates. Why did wolverine stab beast in the chest before they were both sent to that prison (forgot the name of the prison). Why have cyclops on numerous of occasions felt the edge of wolverines blade and on numerous of occasions almost got killed by wolverine. Why did wolverine attack rogue but his claws ended up bouncing off of her due to her invulnerability. Why have wolverine on numerous of occasions almost kill professor due to some rule that professor made and wolverine didnt agree with. Why did wolverine attack and could have killed colossus if his claws would have worked on him, during the time colossus mind was taken over. I can keep going. Wolverine is one of my favorite characters. I know all there is to know about him. I dont think that there are many on the forum that know much more then I do about the character. If wolverine have to or if wolverine does owe a debt he will kill or hurt his partner in a rage. Thats just him and during marvel knight #13, spiderman fell victim to that rage.

Post me some scans of him trying to kill his teammates.

Originally posted by Mindset
Post me some scans of him trying to kill his teammates.

And while he'sw at it he can post scans of the many times Kingpin 'beat' Spidey

Originally posted by BUSTER1
And while he'sw at it he can post scans of the many times Kingpin 'beat' Spidey

I wouldn't say that he beat Spidey. Because SM was holding back a lot.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
I wouldn't say that he beat Spidey. Because SM was holding back a lot.

I know,thats why I put apostrophys either side of beat-I was backing up Mindset's request, for Carver9 to post scans of Logan 'trying to kill his teamates'. I suggested he sent scans scans of KP beating SM, sarcastically, as KP has never beat Spidey h2h.

Originally posted by BUSTER1
I know,thats why I put apostrophys either side of beat-I was backing up Mindset's request, for Carver9 to post scans of Logan 'trying to kill his teamates'. I suggested he sent scans scans of KP beating SM, sarcastically, as KP has never beat Spidey h2h.

Originally posted by carver9
You cant deny something that happen in books. The guy flipped a tank one handed without much trouble.

And yes on panel TWICE cap stated that he isnt a match for wolverine, once was when they were in the sewers in ult xmen vs ult avengers and cap end up shooting wolverine instead stating that he'll be stupid to fight wolverine and the other was when jean, colossus and wolverine fought the avengers again and cap end up throwing a grenade at him.

Ult spiderman admitted this when he was teamed up with the xmen and seen what wolverine could do and he also stated the same thing. Ult wolverine is just as fast, if not faster then ult Spiderman, you do know that wolverine kept up with quicksilver in a battle.

You need too say the issue title/number. Because I've never seen U.Cap admit he isn't a match for U.Wolverine. Its possibly by the theory and of him using weapons but I've just never heard of the statement that he said.

Also when did U.Cap flip a tank over. Proof?

Originally posted by BUSTER1
I know,thats why I put apostrophys either side of beat-I was backing up Mindset's request, for Carver9 to post scans of Logan 'trying to kill his teamates'. I suggested he sent scans scans of KP beating SM, sarcastically, as KP has never beat Spidey h2h.

Credit to Digimark's Kingpin Respect thread:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=444580&highlight=title%3A%28respect+kingpin%29

Originally posted by carver9
and why do you think that ult cap is slower when his stats have him listed at super human speed and the ultimates writer said that this cap is stronger and faster.

Prove it.

Originally posted by carver9

By the way you do know that this is the same spiderman that got owned by frogman and also later on during the issue got owned by tilt man. Ult. cap would thrash king pin.

Dont think so.

Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
This is Spider-Man with his old new upgrades.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Kingpin has proven to be more than a match for Spidey several times:
http://img395.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1635ra3.jpg
http://img260.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1975po7.gif

Irrelevant that is not the upgraded Spiderman.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Kingpin has proven to be more than a match for Spidey several times:
http://img395.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1635ra3.jpg
http://img260.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1975po7.gif

Credit to Digimark's Kingpin Respect thread:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=444580&highlight=title%3A%28respect+kingpin%29

In those scans Kingpin looked equal as opposed to 'more than a match' to Spiderman. And he didn't beat him h2h, ever. Unlike the 'many times' you mentioned earlier. Notice also that this is early Spidey, and Kingpin (peak humanm strength) is stalemating Spiderman (10ton strength) in the test of strength in the 1st panel. This was before Marvel established either SM or KP's strength level. Now, when these early fights are referred too, its stated/retconned that Spiderman held back against KP, for fear of killing him with his spiderstrength

Originally posted by BUSTER1
In those scans Kingpin looked equal as opposed to 'more than a match' to Spiderman. And he didn't beat him h2h, ever. Unlike the 'many times' you mentioned earlier. Notice also that this is early Spidey, and Kingpin (peak humanm strength) is stalemating Spiderman (10ton strength) in the test of strength in the 1st panel. This was before Marvel established either SM or KP's strength level. Now, when these early fights are referred too, its stated/retconned that Spiderman held back against KP, for fear of killing him with his spiderstrength

It doesn't matter anyway alot of people don't realise that the spiderman in this thread is the upgraded Spiderman who has class 25 strength and was even faster.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
It doesn't matter anyway alot of people don't realise that the spiderman in this thread is the upgraded Spiderman who has class 25 strength and was even faster.

Even better-but I had to make my point against OneDumbG0, as he was coming out with all these claims about Spiderman being beaten loads of times by Kingpin h2h, then coming up with 2 scans showing them fighting as equals (Spiderman having his arm in a sling in one scan)

ultimate cap FTW

Originally posted by darth fury

ultimate cap FTW

All that proves is that Ult cap is tough, don't mean he wins.

U.Cap is yelling squelling like a girl at the end of that scan. And thats supposed to prove he wins..........LOL

These U.Cap fans crack me up.

The rest of that fight. Notice U.Thor has to save U.Cap. "shruggs"
http://img307.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ult05p161ts.jpg
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/Genis101/Ultimate%20Captain%20America/5-vstheHulk5.jpg
Here's there rematch notice U.Cap gets treated like a insignificant fly.
http://img314.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ult05p214tz.jpg

And the U.Cap can go toe to toe with U.Hulk myth has ended.

ok fine heres another.... this is what he did to Giant Man if you want to see the scans of him actually beating the shit outta him then il post em 🙂
ultimate cap FTW!

Originally posted by darth fury
ok fine heres another.... this is what he did to Giant Man if you want to see the scans of him actually beating the shit outta him then il post em 🙂
ultimate cap FTW!

So what? Giant man is nothing like Spiderman. 😐

So what??

He defeated GM using lots of metal girders falling on him.

TM defeated 3 GM using just his shield at that.

GM isn't that impressive. Its a nice flashy scene.

But

eh.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
So what? Giant man is nothing like Spiderman. 😐

Yeah Rhino could whupp U.GM. But who cares of me showing scans of Spiderman wrecking Rhino. It doesn't really help him at all.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
U.Cap is yelling squelling like a girl at the end of that scan. And thats supposed to prove he wins..........LOL

These U.Cap fans crack me up.

The rest of that fight. Notice U.Thor has to save U.Cap. "shruggs"
http://img307.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ult05p161ts.jpg
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/Genis101/Ultimate%20Captain%20America/5-vstheHulk5.jpg
Here's there rematch notice U.Cap gets treated like a insignificant fly.
http://img314.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ult05p214tz.jpg

And the U.Cap can go toe to toe with U.Hulk myth has ended.

So were are the U.Cap can go toe to toe with U.Hulk supporters now.

LOL Outside from the circumstances U.Cap got "owned" and had to be saved and was treated like non-existent in there rematch.

I swear these U.Cap fanboy's exaggerate way to much.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
So were are the U.Cap can go toe to toe with U.Hulk supporters now.

LOL Outside from the circumstances U.Cap got "owned" and had to be saved and was treated like non-existent in there rematch.

I swear these U.Cap fanboy's exaggerate way to much.

He can't go toe to toe..... but he can hold his own for a time. Hulk threw Ult Cap thats it. he picked him up and threw him.....

ult. cap would beat 616 spiderman, if 616 spiderman get beaten by 616 cap as most people seem to think being that ult. Cap fight dirty uses guns is stronger, faster and more durable with the only advantage to 616 cap is his fighting skill then IMO ult cap > 616 spiderman