Originally posted by celestialdemonBecause Thanos' condition wasnt stated in either of these two situations but was stated in his run in with Galactus.
But that's not what his clothes or look show, which is what you are basing your idea that Thanos was worse off against Tyrant than Odin.
Tyrant did more damage in less time. Fact.
Originally posted by celestialdemonGalactus didnt treat Tyrant like a mere threat. he was well fed and thought he was ready but knew he would be in for a war in which he was.
He used the tech because he said the fight was ridiculous, probably because Tyrant wasn't doing anything but being an annoyance. Galactus screamed in pain when his machine was used on himself, not from a personal attack by Tyrant.
Again Tyrant countered Galactus attack because it was he who resorted to tech first.
Originally posted by celestialdemon
Fact, Tyrant used Galactus' own tech against him to get the upperhand in that fight. Before that, Tyrant was doing nothing to Galactus. Galactus screamed in pain and was bleeding only AFTER he was drained, not before. Take the tech out and how would Tyrant fair?
Why do u think he used tech in the first place? 😬
Celestial Demon it just seems like ur never gonna get this. U and Quanchi are going in circles about this.
Galactus was going to get his ass kicked no matter how u look at it. Galactus can't physically attack him (Tyrant manipulated his organic form to create talons and can create multiple bodies), can't use energy projection (it gets absorbed), and then his almighty ship (advanced tech) failed.
This is the bottom line: Tyrant uses the same energy (biospheric/cosmic) as Galactus and feeds off planets the same way. Galactus won the first time but Tyrant came back after billions of years of exile and was preped. There was no way Big g was gonna win.
Odin is not beating a being capable of absorbing energy comparable to a fed Galactus. Weather it be in the form of energy blasts,tech etc.
Originally posted by Sundipped
Why do u think he used tech in the first place? 😬Celestial Demon it just seems like ur never gonna get this. U and Quanchi are going in circles about this.
Galactus was going to get his ass kicked no matter how u look at it. Galactus can't physically attack him (Tyrant manipulated his organic form to create talons and can create multiple bodies), can't use energy projection (it gets absorbed), and then his almighty ship (advanced tech) failed.
This is the bottom line: Tyrant uses the same energy (biospheric/cosmic) as Galactus and feeds off planets the same way. Galactus won the first time but Tyrant came back after billions of years of exile and was preped. There was no way Big g was gonna win.
Odin is not beating a being capable of absorbing energy comparable to a fed Galactus. Weather it be in the form of energy blasts,tech etc.
That's why. No such luxury here.
Originally posted by celestialdemon
But Tyrant can, right? 😉
Yes, Tyrant can, because Tyrant should be fast or faster than him. SS has only a fraction of Galactus full power, do you really think SS is faster than Galactus? No way. The same goes with Tyrant. And Thanos is not Tyrant in any department.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos could hit him as he blasted the Fallen One easily when he was all over the place. Thanos crushes the Surfer easily and can beat him whenever he wants. Thanos isnt as powerful as Tyrant but is above these others here. He would overcome them.
No way. He would look for the escape, because he would be quickly overwhelmed.
Thanos shouldn't be able to hit SS, if SS wouldn't allow it.
Especially now after Annihilation, I really doubt Thanos would beat him just like that (maybe he would make a hole through Thanos like Drax).
Originally posted by XplosiveWhat are you talking about?
Yes, Tyrant can, because Tyrant should be fast or faster than him. SS has only a fraction of Galactus full power, do you really think SS is faster than Galactus? No way. The same goes with Tyrant. And Thanos is not Tyrant in any department.No way. He would look for the escape, because he would be quickly overwhelmed.
Thanos shouldn't be able to hit SS, if SS wouldn't allow it.
Especially now after Annihilation, I really doubt Thanos would beat him just like that (maybe he would make a hole through Thanos like Drax).
Galactus doesnt have to be faster than the Surfer. Thanos might not have the raw power of Tyrant but he blows him away in terms of intelligence and accomplishments and willpower.
Again Fallen One had speed and actually was avoiding Thanos. It did him no good whatsoever. Fallen One wasnt allowing him to hit him but he sure was.
Thanos would still stomp a mudhole in the Surfer. Drax is the only one who could do this and his back was turned.
Originally posted by quanchi112
What are you talking about?Galactus doesnt have to be faster than the Surfer.
He doesn't have to be, but he is.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos might not have the raw power of Tyrant but he blows him away in terms of intelligence and accomplishments and willpower.
Do you really think Thanos is more intelligent than Tyant?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos would still stomp a mudhole in the Surfer. Drax is the only one who could do this and his back was turned.
No, there were suggestions during Annihilation that Silver Surfer power level matches Thanos.
Actually now, it would be in question who would win, Silver Surfer or Thanos.
Originally posted by XplosiveProve it.
He doesn't have to be, but he is.Do you really think Thanos is more intelligent than Tyant?
No, there were suggestions during Annihilation that Silver Surfer power level matches Thanos.
Actually now, it would be in question who would win, Silver Surfer or Thanos.
Yes a lot smarter than Tyrant. Thanos doesnt set his goals as low as just beating Galactus. How many times has he crushed him.
Thanos still dominates. What has the Surfer done that eclipses Thanos high feats since the Surfers upgrade?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Prove it.
To prove what? That G is faster than SS? What the... SS power, speed, everything comes from a fraction of power from Galactus. Be serious.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes a lot smarter than Tyrant. Thanos doesnt set his goals as low as just beating Galactus. How many times has he crushed him.
Even with prep and gets crushed by Galactus three simple blasts. He is not smarter than Tyrant. Galactus also never sets a goal as Thanos, but is still smarter than Thanos. Tyrant is around the Universe almost as long as Galactus. He probably has the knowledge Galactus has and was also learning from him, seeing what Galactus was doing and all.
Tyrant outmatches Thanos in every department.
He even created robots that were more powerful than Gladiator and most of others.
Originally posted by Sundipped
This is the bottom line: Tyrant uses the same energy (biospheric/cosmic) as Galactus and feeds off planets the same way. Galactus won the first time but Tyrant came back after billions of years of exile and was preped. There was no way Big g was gonna win.
Laughing my ****ing ass off.
Do you think Galactus' hands have been soaking in ivory liquid?
How do you think Tyrant became depowered in the first place? He dropped his energy orbs? 😆
- Galactus cannot be physically hurt
- Galactus can depower anyone he has previously powered up
- Galactus can ship Tyrant back in time
Originally posted by quanchi112
Because Thanos' condition wasnt stated in either of these two situations but was stated in his run in with Galactus.Tyrant did more damage in less time. Fact.
In the Odin fight, Thanos looked worn out and struggled to get up. In the Tyrant fight, he looked perfectly fine except for his clothes and was even smiling at the end. You come from a strange world if you think having torn clothes means taking more damage.
No, Tyrant didn't because Thanos got up with no problem. Plus, Thanos was actually able to hurt Tyrant. No such luck against Odin.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Galactus didnt treat Tyrant like a mere threat. he was well fed and thought he was ready but knew he would be in for a war in which he was.
He thought that was what he was in for but he obviously found out Tyrant the threat he thought, which is why decided to drain his power and called the confrontation ridiculous.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Again Tyrant countered Galactus attack because it was he who resorted to tech first.
It doesn't matter who used it first. The point is Tyrant wasn't winning before that happened. If Tyrant were to take on someone of Galactus' level who doesn't use tech, like the In-Betweener, Tyrant would lose horribly.
Originally posted by Xplosive
Yes, Tyrant can, because Tyrant should be fast or faster than him. SS has only a fraction of Galactus full power, do you really think SS is faster than Galactus? No way. The same goes with Tyrant. And Thanos is not Tyrant in any department.
Show me anywhere that Tyrant can move as fast or faster than SS. Not speculation. Actual proof.
Originally posted by Xplosive
No way. He would look for the escape, because he would be quickly overwhelmed.Thanos shouldn't be able to hit SS, if SS wouldn't allow it.
Especially now after Annihilation, I really doubt Thanos would beat him just like that (maybe he would make a hole through Thanos like Drax).
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Fallen One already tried speedblitzing Thanos, and it didn't work. Show me a scan of Thanos actually being speedblitzed then I'll consider that an option for SS.
Drax was specifically designed to kill Thanos, hence the green aura that surrounded him when he got close to him. It also helped that Thanos didn't fight back. SS won't have either luxury.
Thanos quickly overwhelmed? When has he ever been besides against Galactus?
Originally posted by Sundipped
Why do u think he used tech in the first place? 😬Celestial Demon it just seems like ur never gonna get this. U and Quanchi are going in circles about this.
Galactus was going to get his ass kicked no matter how u look at it. Galactus can't physically attack him (Tyrant manipulated his organic form to create talons and can create multiple bodies), can't use energy projection (it gets absorbed), and then his almighty ship (advanced tech) failed.
This is the bottom line: Tyrant uses the same energy (biospheric/cosmic) as Galactus and feeds off planets the same way. Galactus won the first time but Tyrant came back after billions of years of exile and was preped. There was no way Big g was gonna win.
Odin is not beating a being capable of absorbing energy comparable to a fed Galactus. Weather it be in the form of energy blasts,tech etc.
So you're telling me a being capable of doing this...
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6125/galactusshockwave1oz9.jpg
...ran out of options and resorted to using tech after 1 eye blast and 1 grab?
Originally posted by celestialdemonSurfer's combat speed isn't really top calibre,for instance, we saw him move a vast distance, between planets even, in the span of time that Thanos could muster a single punch comparatively, on panel.
Fallen One already tried speedblitzing Thanos, and it didn't work. Show me a scan of Thanos actually being speedblitzed then I'll consider that an option for SS.
However, when in combat with Thanos, Surfer has been known to run into a dozen of these and be unable to do anything about it.
I don't know much about Fallen one, because I've only ever seen him in the Thanos limited[sadly] series, and it wasn't a good showing for him at all. I can't even draw a comparison between him and any other herald, because I don't know of any GOOD showings he has.
Originally posted by celestialdemon
Show me anywhere that Tyrant can move as fast or faster than SS. Not speculation. Actual proof.
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I don't have it, because Tyrant lacks appearance as SS is having them. But do you really need a proof? Galactus by far most powerful creation. Having cosmic power far beyond Silver Surfer or any herald in any department. I really think you don't need an actual proof.
Really, such logic as your own can really be annoying sometimes.
Can't you just think logically sometimes.
Originally posted by celestialdemon
Fallen One already tried speedblitzing Thanos, and it didn't work. Show me a scan of Thanos actually being speedblitzed then I'll consider that an option for SS.Drax was specifically designed to kill Thanos, hence the green aura that surrounded him when he got close to him. It also helped that Thanos didn't fight back. SS won't have either luxury.
Thanos is apparently amongst Marvel favorite. Anyway, with proper writing, he wouldn't be able to follow Silver Surfer speed, not even close, because he doesn't have it. Actually doesn't have it, not even close. All in those team DP Tyrant owned are so much faster than Thanos it's not even funny. Them organizing well, Thanos shouldn't even be able to see what would be going around him. He wouldn't be facing only SS, but six powerful members simultaneously that are all close in power level.
They would overwhelm him.
Originally posted by Xplosive
😘I don't have it, because Tyrant lacks appearance as SS is having them. But do you really need a proof? Galactus by far most powerful creation. Having cosmic power far beyond Silver Surfer or any herald in any department. I really think you don't need an actual proof.
Really, such logic as your own can really be annoying sometimes.
Can't you just think logically sometimes.
Yes, proof is required. If a character doesn't demonstrate he has an ability, then my annoying logic deduces that he doesn't have the ability. Just because he is Galactus' creation doesn't mean he has that kind of speed. Morg and Terrax sure don't, and they are heralds just like SS.
Originally posted by Xplosive
Thanos is apparently amongst Marvel favorite. Anyway, with proper writing, he wouldn't be able to follow Silver Surfer speed, not even close, because he doesn't have it.
With proper writing Tyrant wouldn't have stood a chance against Galactus, nor would Thanos against Odin. See how that works.
Originally posted by Xplosive
Actually doesn't have it, not even close. All in those team DP Tyrant owned are so much faster than Thanos it's not even funny. Them organizing well, Thanos shouldn't even be able to see what would be going around him. He wouldn't be facing only SS, but six powerful members simultaneously that are all close in power level.
They would overwhelm him.
I'm not doubting whether Tyrant is more powerful than Thanos. I know he is, which is why he beat them faster than Thanos could, so your first statement makes no sense. Again, Thanos has faced beings more powerful than them and was still left standing. You have nothing to go on except your own opinion, and that's not good enough.
Originally posted by Xplosive
Well, the fight against DP Tyrant didn't last long. If he wouldn't escape, he would die after a short battle.
We don't know how long the battle would have lasted. What we do know is that Thanos left the battle relatively unharmed (besides his clothes being torn off) and smiling.
Originally posted by Xplosive
Odin could quickly beat him in their battle, but instead played with him.
I don't think he was playing with him, but considering what we've seen from Odin, I definitely don't think he was going all out.
