Tyrant "depowered" vs. Odin

Started by celestialdemon42 pages

Originally posted by Sundipped
U too ignore the facts.

Tyrant has mastery over his organic form and can absob what he called "synthesized" biospheric/cosmic energy (the same thing Galactus uses). Tyrant could've absorbed if not all, at least a large portion of that kind of attack and would've been empowered. It sure wouldn't have hurt him. Galan didn't do it in Cosmic Powers because he knew where it would've led.

Since he could'nt go that route he tried tech and got all his power drained anyway. More than what was displayed by a weak Galan in Annihilation. Dosen't matter if it goes thur through tech or solar system wipe out blasts, Galactus is harming Tyrant in this manner.

Tyrant DID feel pain before he absorbed Galactus' blast, so yes, it does make a difference as to whether it's drained through technology or absorbed from a blast. I would like to see Tyrant absorb a blast as powerful as the Annihilation one and still survive.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Tyrant DID feel pain before he absorbed Galactus' blast, so yes, it does make a difference as to whether it's drained through technology or absorbed from a blast. I would like to see Tyrant absorb a blast as powerful as the Annihilation one and still survive.

If u think he would die ur sadly mistaken. If he uses the same energy Galan uses then it doesn't matter. He has reminded Galactus of this already. The concussive force is what "bothered" Tyrant.

Fact: He drained a fed Galactus in seconds thru tech. Just the sheer ability to absorb this much power no matter in what fashion indicates he is on Galactus level. But only Galactus because he has the same mastery over biospheric energy as he does as was indicated.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
I'm sorry, what was that? 😗

Just like I said. "NO MORE DEPOWERMENT". U can see clearly it was the ship that did it. Tyrant was preped second go round.

And u must have forgot what u said.

Originally posted by celestialdemon False! I'll find the scan, but there is a image of him holding Tyrant in his hand while he's depowering him

ORLLY! 😂

U set your ownself up for that one. 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Xplosive
So, Galactus granted SS such speed with his own power, but he himself doesn't have it. Good, quanchi. Well done.

So Thanos is also smarter than Galactus?

Do all of Galactus heralds have superspeed? Or do some of them have this?

Again Galactus hasnt been seen ever possessing Surfer like speed so you assuming he has it when never ever shown is ludicrous.

Yes Thanos is smarter than Galactus.

Think about every story they were both in. Who knew what was going on and how to deal with the situation. Thanos. In the hunger he saved Galactus stupid ass. In the infinity stories they needed Thanos input while Galactus was just kinda there. Thanos always played a huge role while Galactus was on the same team but nowhere near as crucial as Thanos.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
False. The only thing against Tyrant was his clothes were gone. He looked fine and was smiling. Against Odin, he was still smoking and had to struggle to get up.

And how much did the weapon help him against Tyrant? What did it do to Thanos' power levels?

Thanos clothes were gone. he still had to get up. He also left the battle scene and didnt object when Tyrant said he would kill him.

Against Odin Thanos proclaimed he would win after Odin said he would prevail.

Thanos grabbed the orb and wouldnt let it go. It obviously helped him. Quit being ignorant.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Oh please! At the time he said that Tyrant wasn't doing jack sh*t to Galactus except give him a paper cut on his finger. Ouch!

Tyrant didn't topple him. It was Galactus' own machine draining him that toppled him.

So powerful that he was able to rip part of Galactus' glove from one of his fingers. Nice powerup!

Galactus was powering him up. So in effect your saying Tyrant was doing minimal damage it was damage while Galactus was actually empowering him.

Galactus used the tech on Tyrant. Tyrant merely reversed it. Dont penalize Tyrant because GALACTUS USED THE TECH FIRST.

Quit ignoring the scans. He fed Tyrant the very energy that is his power source. Galactus looked very stupid and ignorant in this battle. Good thing Morg saved his ass because he was done for.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Tyrant DID feel pain before he absorbed Galactus' blast, so yes, it does make a difference as to whether it's drained through technology or absorbed from a blast. I would like to see Tyrant absorb a blast as powerful as the Annihilation one and still survive.
Tyrant fought a well fed Galactus and that blast was from a starving Galactus.

Annihilus survived it. 😐

Tyrant destroyed galaxies with Galactus in their first battle so I am sure he could survive the three star system blast while Galactus was starving. 😬

Originally posted by quanchi112
Tyrant fought a well fed Galactus and that blast was from a starving Galactus.

Annihilus survived it. 😐

Tyrant destroyed galaxies with Galactus in their first battle so I am sure he could survive the three star system blast while Galactus was starving. 😬

It was never confirmed that galaxies were destroyed as a side effect of Galactus and Tyrant's battle.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Just like I said. "NO MORE DEPOWERMENT". U can see clearly it was the ship that did it. Tyrant was preped second go round.

And u must have forgot what u said.

ORLLY! 😂

U set your ownself up for that one. 😖hifty:

You must have forgotten what you said, so I'll refresh your memory. In regards to a comment made about Galactus depowering Tyrant the first time, you said:

Originally posted by Sundipped
Don't know. The only images of the first fight were on the computer of Tyrants ship when Thanos was looking at it. For all we know he could have used tech the first time.

I showed you an image that shows you otherwise, but apparently your eyes aren't working too well, so let me crop it for you.

Originally posted by Ruin
It was never confirmed that galaxies were destroyed as a side effect of Galactus and Tyrant's battle.
Either way Annihilus survived this Galactus assault so logically Tyrant would have no problems with it whatsoever.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Either way Annihilus survived this Galactus assault so logically Tyrant would have no problems with it whatsoever.

Considering Galactus power levels are consistently ambiguous, the logic used to determine such an assessment is asinine.

Originally posted by Ruin
Considering Galactus power levels are consistently ambiguous, the logic used to determine such an assessment is asinine.
Yes he was starving when he unleashed that power and when he faced Tyrant he was well fed. So anyone saying a starving Galactus would be more effective than a well fed one is asinine.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes he was starving when he unleashed that power and when he faced Tyrant he was well fed. So anyone saying a starving Galactus would be more effective than a well fed one is asinine.

I could be mistaken, but being the speculated destruction of galaxies was unconfirmed, I assume Galactus being well fed is as well?

Originally posted by Ruin
I could be mistaken, but being the speculated destruction of galaxies was unconfirmed, I assume Galactus being well fed is as well?
Nope this confirms it.
Thanos is usually correct when he assumes something and I think they did destroy galaxies but its all a matter of opinion there.

Originally posted by Sundipped
If u think he would die ur sadly mistaken. If he uses the same energy Galan uses then it doesn't matter. He has reminded Galactus of this already. The concussive force is what "bothered" Tyrant.

You wanna actually look at the comic before you comment about it. Tyrant screams in pain when the blast lands and the narrator even states "So awesome is the blast from Galactus that Tyrant momentarily questions this course of action..." He wouldn't have questioned it if it just "bothered" him.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Fact: He drained a fed Galactus in seconds thru tech. Just the sheer ability to absorb this much power no matter in what fashion indicates he is on Galactus level. But only Galactus because he has the same mastery over biospheric energy as he does as was indicated.

Draining energy using a machine and absorbing energy from a harmful blast are two different things. For example, Havok can absorb energy but he is still harmed by energy attacks. In his fight with Nate Grey, Exodus was absorbing his psionic energy until Nate unleashed too much power for him to absorb. In Tyrant's case, he was harmed by a single attack from Galactus and then was able to absorb it. You can say for certain that he would have been able to absorb an attack like the Annihilation one.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos clothes were gone. he still had to get up. He also left the battle scene and didnt object when Tyrant said he would kill him.

Against Odin Thanos proclaimed he would win after Odin said he would prevail.

Thanos grabbed the orb and wouldnt let it go. It obviously helped him. Quit being ignorant.

Thanos got up from being buried in rubble, and he didn't struggle at all to do it. He smiled at Tyrant and said he had done what he said out to do and the victory was his. It took Thanos 4 panels to get from his knees to his feet. To any logical person, that would tell them he was having a hard time getting up, unlike with Tyrant.

Thanos proclaimed he would win against Odin? Big deal. He also said he was disappointed in Tyrant and that he wasn't the challenge he hoped he would be.

How much did the orb help him? Can you answer me that? Did it double his power? Triple? You have no idea. Not even Tyrant acknowledged the orb as being part of Thanos' power. He only commented on Thanos himself. I'll take his word over yours anyday.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Galactus was powering him up. So in effect your saying Tyrant was doing minimal damage it was damage while Galactus was actually empowering him.

Galactus used the tech on Tyrant. Tyrant merely reversed it. Dont penalize Tyrant because GALACTUS USED THE TECH FIRST.

Quit ignoring the scans. He fed Tyrant the very energy that is his power source. Galactus looked very stupid and ignorant in this battle. Good thing Morg saved his ass because he was done for.

So take the tech out of the battle and what could Tyrant have possibly hoped to do to beat Galactus?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Tyrant fought a well fed Galactus and that blast was from a starving Galactus.

Annihilus survived it. 😐

Tyrant destroyed galaxies with Galactus in their first battle so I am sure he could survive the three star system blast while Galactus was starving. 😬

The blast from a starving Galactus was powerful enough to incinerate a Watcher. As for Annihilus surviving, I'm sure the quantum bands he was wearing had nothing to do with it.

Tyrant and Galactus together destroyed galaxies in their first battle, and that was Tyrant at his most powerful. The most recent version of Tyrant was nowhere near that level.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
He was stalemating the In-Betweener before Order and Chaos appeared, and was stalemating Agamotto in his own realm where he is all-powerful. He defeated Mephisto in his own realm where he is all-powerful. He also incinerated a Watcher, who are on Celestial-level.

None of the mentioned is far more powerful than FP Tyrant, if any at all is.

Galactus should have smite In-Betweener (and the battle wasn't close the scope of him Vs. FP Tyrant. None of mentioned was.). I don't where the idea he is by far more powerful than FP Tyrant.

If Agamotto would be all-powerful in his realm, he would have won against Galactus easily (it was stalemate). He was hungry against Mephisto.
FP Tyrant would have crushed Mephisto in his own realm.

Going by Thanos words, the greatest energies were released in his battle with FP Tyrant (because energies they output were toward each others and already the consequences were wrecked galaxies. One galaxy=up to one trillion solar systems). And Galactus actually knew he must go physically prepared against FP Tyrant, to be match for him.

Watcher is not a Celestial level and not far more powerful than FP Tyrant, if he is at all.
And would Watchers really beat FP Tyrant just like that.
Probably FP Tyrant would destroy him just as Galactus did.

So all you mentioned, Galactus was actually physically best prepared for FP Tyrant and wasn't holding back. And he knew that, because he knew how powerful is the creation he made. And that creation has in time only grown and was growing more powerful.

None of the mentioned is more powerful than FP Tyrant (especially not by far). You do remember what they used to end Tyrant threat, because Galactus wasn't enough anymore?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again Galactus hasnt been seen ever possessing Surfer like speed so you assuming he has it when never ever shown is ludicrous.

Everything SS has, is because of Galactus.

Galactus is smarter than Thanos. Galactus is so far beyond Thanos in any department.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Do all of Galactus heralds have superspeed? Or do some of them have this?

Again Galactus hasnt been seen ever possessing Surfer like speed so you assuming he has it when never ever shown is ludicrous.

Yes Thanos is smarter than Galactus.

Think about every story they were both in. Who knew what was going on and how to deal with the situation. Thanos. In the hunger he saved Galactus stupid ass. In the infinity stories they needed Thanos input while Galactus was just kinda there. Thanos always played a huge role while Galactus was on the same team but nowhere near as crucial as Thanos.

all have it.

Showing of speed.
http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tlgs56uy8.jpg

define smarter more cunning, intelligent ore what?

Because Thanos data hadn't been tampered with else he would have been as completely lost as Galactus was. Galactus was kinda there? He was the one taking Doctor Strange who was all he needed to accomplishe his task, later Doctor Strange summons the rest, though if I recall correctly not on Galactus request.