Tyrant "depowered" vs. Odin

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Thanos has taken a blast from Surfer at point blank range, and it didn't do anything to him. He team down both Thing and Thor at the same time before his initial upgrade. He took on lots of heroes when he and the Watch threw down with them in the Infinity War. Plus, he was standing toe-to-toe with WM Thor w/PG, whom earlier rocked the Watch, SS, and Dr. Strange at the same time.

Which was the issue where Silver Surfer and Thanos batted on some planet, SS was bloodlusted and it was in question who would win when SS then?
Or I just don't remember well.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
And speed won't work against Thanos. Fallen One tried that and failed.

Only because of writing. The point is that Thanos wouldn't even be able to get his hands on SS, if Silver Surfer wouldn't allow it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He beats them off one by one. It would be a helluva battle but one in which Thanos would come out on top.

Them organizing well, they would quickly beat him. With their speed, combined power, they should quickly beat him. Thanos is no Tyrant.
If those team would organize well, Thanos shouldn't even be able to see what would be going around him.

I bet he would look for escape.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Which was the issue where Silver Surfer and Thanos batted on some planet, SS was bloodlusted and it was in question who would win when SS then?

Good question. I'd like to see that, too.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Only because of writing. The point is that Thanos couldn't even able to get his hands on SS, if Silver Surfer wouldn't allow it.

But Tyrant can, right? 😉

Originally posted by celestialdemon
I haven't once said that Thanos could take Tyrant down. And Thanos budged plenty of times against Odin. He just kept getting back up.

Again, what does that matter. Thanos struggled to stand against Odin but not Tyrant. And Thanos' clothes weren't torn when Galactus blasted him either. Does that mean Thanos was in better shape after that than against his battle with Tyrant?

Odin didn't start attacking Thanos out of nowhere. Odin appeared, struck down Drax, and told his soldiers to leave. It was after that that they battled. So Thanos knew what he was getting into. Besides, since when does ANYONE invade Asgard and not expect to face Odin?

Not once did I say they were the same. I said the information gained by Thanos was pointless in an actual battle with him, because he has never seen Tyrant fight nor know what kind of attacks he's capable of.

Thanos had to get to his feet and looked far worse against Tyrant than he did against Odin. Galactus blasted him and Thanos confirmed he did damage to himself whereas in the Odin fight he said no such thing. Its in Thanos' character to survive but he didnt yield at all and had no purpose in fighting Odin at all.

This is so simple its crazy. Tyrant made Thanos leave and Thanos didnt object to the notion of Tyrant killing him.

Thanos had time to prep and prepare for Tyrant. He figured he would have to battle him but it all happened so quickly there was no prep allowed at all compared to Thanos actually coming up with challenging Tyrant and all.

He saw and gathered information about his titanic battle with Galactus and how he stored power into the orbs. Did you not read the issue or did you forget?

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Easily, huh? Is that why he was screaming in pain and briefly doubted the confrontation? Galactus didn't look desperate. When has he ever looked desperate after a single attack?

Morg didn't pull out the UN until after Tyrant absorbed Galactus' tech. If Tyrant was as big of a threat as you say he was, why didn't he just use the UN from the start?

Look who's talking.

Morg pulled out the un after Tyrant had him toppled and screaming in pain. Again Galactus tried the tech move but was countered and was getting crushed. Context.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
rolleyes1 I'm sure it had nothing to do with Thanos not wanting to lose the orb since he was trying to steal it.

It was rolling on the ground. It wasn't going anywhere.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
How is that misinterpretting? I'm interpretting it exactly the way Galactus said it. You make it sound like Galactus tried an assortment of attacks. He blasted Tyrant once and grabbed his "hair". Big deal. Galactus has FAR more in his arsenal than that.

I'm well aware that he isn't like Galactus' other creations. But he has drained him before, so it's pointless for him to try using tech to do it this time.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Which was the issue where Silver Surfer and Thanos batted on some planet, SS was bloodlusted and it was in question who would win when SS then?
Or I just don't remember well.

Only because of writing. The point is that Thanos wouldn't even be able to get his hands on SS, if Silver Surfer wouldn't allow it.

Them organizing well, they would quickly beat him. With their speed, combined power, they should quickly beat him. Thanos is no Tyrant.
If those team would organize well, Thanos shouldn't even be able to see what would be going around him.

I bet he would look for escape.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again Galactus beat him the first time but was getting his ass kicked the second. Geez. Tyrant learned from his mistakes while Galactus thought it would be very much the same which it wasnt at all. Tyrant was more than he could handle this time.

Exactly. He was preped this go round with previously unseen abilities and caught Big G off guard. NO MORE DEPOWERING!

Originally posted by Sundipped
Exactly. He was preped this go round with previously unseen abilities and caught Big G off guard. NO MORE DEPOWERING!

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again Thanos didnt bring a weapon to fight Odin but he had one against Tyrant.

Thanos had to get to his feet and looked far worse against Tyrant than he did against Odin. Galactus blasted him and Thanos confirmed he did damage to himself whereas in the Odin fight he said no such thing. Its in Thanos' character to survive but he didnt yield at all and had no purpose in fighting Odin at all.

Thanos didn't have to SAY anything against Odin. He SHOWED it by him struggling to stand.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is so simple its crazy. Tyrant made Thanos leave and Thanos didnt object to the notion of Tyrant killing him.

Aren't you always the one who says "context". Why don't you try looking at that now?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos had time to prep and prepare for Tyrant. He figured he would have to battle him but it all happened so quickly there was no prep allowed at all compared to Thanos actually coming up with challenging Tyrant and all.

He saw and gathered information about his titanic battle with Galactus and how he stored power into the orbs. Did you not read the issue or did you forget?

I read the issue. So his prep was grabbing one orb out of hundreds? One that even he had no idea what kind of power was in it? Not very good prep.

Thanos knew very well they were going to Asgard. There was nothing sudden about Odin's attack. He didn't even attack Thanos until Thanos attacked first.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It powered him up but hurt. It did Galactus no good whatsoever but actually powered Tyrant up. Dont you realize thats why Galactus was desperate and he used the tech. 🙂

Morg pulled out the un after Tyrant had him toppled and screaming in pain. Again Galactus tried the tech move but was countered and was getting crushed. Context.

Does he look desperate in the least bit? No. Not even his words show that, so you are speculating at best.

Originally posted by Sundipped
It was rolling on the ground. It wasn't going anywhere.

Would it have still been there after the ensuing explosion? 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again Galactus beat him the first time but was getting his ass kicked the second. Geez. Tyrant learned from his mistakes while Galactus thought it would be very much the same which it wasnt at all. Tyrant was more than he could handle this time.

So after prepping for MILLIONS of years, Tyrant based his only hope of winning on absorbing Galactus' own tech? And how is that supposed to make Tyrant more powerful than Galactus in a straight up fight?

Originally posted by celestialdemon
So after prepping for MILLIONS of years, Tyrant based his only hope of winning on absorbing Galactus' own tech? And how is that supposed to make Tyrant more powerful than Galactus in a straight up fight?

Tyrant was absorbing his blasts and all over him. Galactus was the one who used tech as he foolishly thought it would give him the win. If Tyrant used the tech first youd have somewhat of a point but he didnt and simply countered Galactus every offensive move.

Again in a straight up fight Morg wouldnt have been there bailing to aid his master now would he?

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Thanos didn't have to SAY anything against Odin. He SHOWED it by him struggling to stand.

Aren't you always the one who says "context". Why don't you try looking at that now?

I read the issue. So his prep was grabbing one orb out of hundreds? One that even he had no idea what kind of power was in it? Not very good prep.

Thanos knew very well they were going to Asgard. There was nothing sudden about Odin's attack. He didn't even attack Thanos until Thanos attacked first.

I am looking at the context while thanos left against Tyrant but stayed against Odin and for no reason. he didnt come there looking for a fight with him.

Thanos sought to challenge himself and know about his foe. he took an orb and saw what Tyrant was made of. Very impressive for Thanos considering this guy can beat on Galactus.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Does he look desperate in the least bit? No. Not even his words show that, so you are speculating at best.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again you keep twisting the context.

Tyrant was absorbing his blasts and all over him. Galactus was the one who used tech as he foolishly thought it would give him the win. If Tyrant used the tech first youd have somewhat of a point but he didnt and simply countered Galactus every offensive move.

Again in a straight up fight Morg wouldnt have been there bailing to aid his master now would he?

Tyrant absorbed a SINGLE blast. He also "countered" Galactus grabbing his "hair" by letting it get ripped out. That's it. It was then that Galactus used his tech. NOT because of desperation, like you so falsely speculate instead of just going with what Galactus himself said. Are you telling me that you haven't seen Galactus do a hell of a lot more to others than what he did to Tyrant?

In a straight up fight, Tyrant wouldn't have all that time to prep, now would he?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again Thanos didnt back down against Odin and he ha dnothing to gain. Meaning he was fine.

I am looking at the context while thanos left against Tyrant but stayed against Odin and for no reason. he didnt come there looking for a fight with him.

Thanos sought to challenge himself and know about his foe. he took an orb and saw what Tyrant was made of. Very impressive for Thanos considering this guy can beat on Galactus.

Exactly right. Thanos took the orb, challenged Tyrant and withstood him. That's it. Job done, pat on the back, time to go. He didn't have anything left to prove to himself, so there was no point in staying there.

Thanos did have a reason to stay in Asgard. He was there to help the Watch help Thor get better. In this scenario, his mission wasn't complete, so he wasn't going to run. That's the context you're missing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was toppled and screamed. Tyrant was dominating him and talking trash in the process. Morg came to save his ass. Its factual stuff.

It's also factual that Tyrant didn't harm Galactus until he turned Galan's own tech on him. It's also factual that Tyrant had more prep for this fight than probably anybody in the history of comics. He's been preparing it for millions of years.

And Galactus' scream came AFTER the tech incident, so you are still speculating about his supposed desperation.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Tyrant absorbed a SINGLE blast. He also "countered" Galactus grabbing his "hair" by letting it get ripped out. That's it. It was then that Galactus used his tech. NOT because of desperation, like you so falsely speculate instead of just going with what Galactus himself said. Are you telling me that you haven't seen Galactus do a hell of a lot more to others than what he did to Tyrant?

In a straight up fight, Tyrant wouldn't have all that time to prep, now would he?

Galactus then used tech because it seems to me this was a way he beat him. This is then used against him and countered.

It doesnt matter what else he did against others but only matters what happened in this particular fight. Tyrant was winning. Fact.