Tyrant "depowered" vs. Odin

Started by quanchi11242 pages

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Exactly right. Thanos took the orb, challenged Tyrant and withstood him. That's it. Job done, pat on the back, time to go. He didn't have anything left to prove to himself, so there was no point in staying there.

Thanos did have a reason to stay in Asgard. He was there to help the Watch help Thor get better. In this scenario, his mission wasn't complete, so he wasn't going to run. That's the context you're missing.

Thanos left because he knew that he couldnt beat Tyrant. he left and didnt object when Tyrant said he would kill him. Conversely when Odin said hed win Thanos objected and said he saw a different result and saw himself as coming out on top the victor.

Thanos really didnt care that much for Thor and could have left. Thanos wouldnt get himself killed to return Thor's sanity. The point is he ws nowhere close to death and was only knocked down.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
It's also factual that Tyrant didn't harm Galactus until he turned Galan's own tech on him. It's also factual that Tyrant had more prep for this fight than probably anybody in the history of comics. He's been preparing it for millions of years.

And Galactus' scream came AFTER the tech incident, so you are still speculating about his supposed desperation.

Galactus used the tech first. 😐

Tyrant countered his only two attacks and hurt him really badly.

Galactus didnt harm Tyrant at all and actually powered him up further. 😬

Odin ftw.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Odin ftw.
Why?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Tyrant absorbed a blast and then Galactus tried something else because he couldnt beat him with blasts.

Galactus then used tech because it seems to me this was a way he beat him. This is then used against him and countered.

It doesnt matter what else he did against others but only matters what happened in this particular fight. Tyrant was winning. Fact.

Fact is Tyrant had tons more prep than Galactus and wasn't able to mount anything against him until Galactus used his tech on him. And Galactus used his tech because he was planning on draining Tyrant's biospheric energy, just like he stated. Nothing said or even hinted about him running out of options. If he wanted to, Galactus could have beaten him with his fist, since Tyrant can't absorb that.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Fact is Tyrant had tons more prep than Galactus and wasn't able to mount anything against him until Galactus used his tech on him. And Galactus used his tech because he was planning on draining Tyrant's biospheric energy, just like he stated. Nothing said or even hinted about him running out of options. If he wanted to, Galactus could have beaten him with his fist, since Tyrant can't absorb that.
So what?

Galactus knew about this conflict for a while. He was well prepared and well fed.

If Galactus could have beaten him wit his fist how could that have stopped him? Tyrant make create multiple bodies remember.

Again Galactus and his first two attacks made Tyrant more powerful. Tyrant was dominating him. Fact.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos left because he knew that he couldnt beat Tyrant. he left and didnt object when Tyrant said he would kill him. Conversely when Odin said hed win Thanos objected and said he saw a different result and saw himself as coming out on top the victor.

Maybe you should re-read the comic, because Thanos states in black and white why he left, no matter how you try to spin it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos really didnt care that much for Thor and could have left. Thanos wouldnt get himself killed to return Thor's sanity. The point is he ws nowhere close to death and was only knocked down.

Thanos himself said he was working on the side of good this time, so even if he didn't care about Thor, he was doing what he felt was right. He may not have been close to death but we was in worse shape than he was against Tyrant (and he wasn't close to death there, either).

Originally posted by quanchi112
Galactus used the tech first. 😐

Tyrant countered his only two attacks and hurt him really badly.

Galactus didnt harm Tyrant at all and actually powered him up further. 😬

Galactus DID harm Tyrant before he absorbed the blast. He even screamed from it. Tyrant didn't hurt Galactus until after Tyrant reversed Galan's tech. Before that, Tyrant did nothing.

Galactus used tech first? So does that mean Thanos was getting desperate against Thor w/PG?

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Maybe you should re-read the comic, because Thanos states in black and white why he left, no matter how you try to spin it.

Thanos himself said he was working on the side of good this time, so even if he didn't care about Thor, he was doing what he felt was right. He may not have been close to death but we was in worse shape than he was against Tyrant (and he wasn't close to death there, either).

Thanos also didnt disagree with Tyrant killing him but when Odin said he would win Thanos disagreed.

He wasnt close to death in either of the battles but he was worse off in the Tyrant battle and looked worse in a shorter time as well.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Galactus DID harm Tyrant before he absorbed the blast. He even screamed from it. Tyrant didn't hurt Galactus until after Tyrant reversed Galan's tech. Before that, Tyrant did nothing.

Galactus used tech first? So does that mean Thanos was getting desperate against Thor w/PG?

Yes but he absorbed the blast thus making him more powerful. Fact.

Galactus did no damage to Tyrant and its a fact he only powered him up while Galactus was screaming in pain and was bleeding. Tyrant dominated him. Fact.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So what?

Galactus knew about this conflict for a while. He was well prepared and well fed.

If Galactus could have beaten him wit his fist how could that have stopped him? Tyrant make create multiple bodies remember.

Again Galactus and his first two attacks made Tyrant more powerful. Tyrant was dominating him. Fact.

How can Galactus be well prepared and not know that Tyrant has the power to control his machines?

If Tyrant could create multiple bodies so easily, why didn't he do it a long time ago and take out Galactus then?

Galactus has taken on people far more powerful than Tyrant and won. To say that 2 attacks is all that he could muster is ridiculous when he's done far more to other people. How would the fight have gone had Galactus not used his tech?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos also didnt disagree with Tyrant killing him but when Odin said he would win Thanos disagreed.

Of course he disagreed with him. Thanos has never admitted defeat, not even to Tyrant. If you recall, Thanos even said the victory was his, not Tyrant's.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He wasnt close to death in either of the battles but he was worse off in the Tyrant battle and looked worse in a shorter time as well.

So based on his look, Thanos was worse off against Tyrant than he was against Galactus, right?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes but he absorbed the blast thus making him more powerful. Fact.

Galactus did no damage to Tyrant and its a fact he only powered him up while Galactus was screaming in pain and was bleeding. Tyrant dominated him. Fact.

Fact, Tyrant used Galactus' own tech against him to get the upperhand in that fight. Before that, Tyrant was doing nothing to Galactus. Galactus screamed in pain and was bleeding only AFTER he was drained, not before. Take the tech out and how would Tyrant fair?

Originally posted by celestialdemon
How can Galactus be well prepared and not know that Tyrant has the power to control his machines?

If Tyrant could create multiple bodies so easily, why didn't he do it a long time ago and take out Galactus then?

Galactus has taken on people far more powerful than Tyrant and won. To say that 2 attacks is all that he could muster is ridiculous when he's done far more to other people. How would the fight have gone had Galactus not used his tech?

Galactus was well prepared in the sense he had time to prepare for him.

Tyrant would have created these bodies in this battle if he needed to. Taking out Galactus is no easy task but was one in which he waited and was about to pull off.

I said the two attacks used powered him up further. Fact.

Who knows how the fight would have gone. It happened the way it did and Tyrant dominated.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Of course he disagreed with him. Thanos has never admitted defeat, not even to Tyrant. If you recall, Thanos even said the victory was his, not Tyrant's.

So based on his look, Thanos was worse off against Tyrant than he was against Galactus, right?

He didnt object when he said he could kill him.

No as I said it was explained on panel he was worse off against Galactus as explained by Thanos.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Fact, Tyrant used Galactus' own tech against him to get the upperhand in that fight. Before that, Tyrant was doing nothing to Galactus. Galactus screamed in pain and was bleeding only AFTER he was drained, not before. Take the tech out and how would Tyrant fair?
Before he used his tech galactus was powering up Tyrant. 😂
Galactus screamed in pain after Tyrant countered his second attack.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Galactus was well prepared in the sense he had time to prepare for him.

Tyrant would have created these bodies in this battle if he needed to. Taking out Galactus is no easy task but was one in which he waited and was about to pull off.

I said the two attacks used powered him up further. Fact.

Who knows how the fight would have gone. It happened the way it did and Tyrant dominated.

And Tyrant needed Galactus' own tech to do it because he wasn't doing jack on his own. And only one attack powered him up. The other just ripped off his "hair".

Originally posted by quanchi112
He didnt object when he said he could kill him.

No as I said it was explained on panel he was worse off against Galactus as explained by Thanos.

But that's not what his clothes or look show, which is what you are basing your idea that Thanos was worse off against Tyrant than Odin.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Before he used his tech galactus was powering up Tyrant. 😂
Galactus screamed in pain after Tyrant countered his second attack.

He used the tech because he said the fight was ridiculous, probably because Tyrant wasn't doing anything but being an annoyance. Galactus screamed in pain when his machine was used on himself, not from a personal attack by Tyrant.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
And Tyrant needed Galactus' own tech to do it because he wasn't doing jack on his own. And only one attack powered him up. The other just ripped off his "hair".
No,Galactus used his own tech to try and defeat Tyrant. It backfired. One attack powered him up and the other attack did nothing significant at all.