Tyrant "depowered" vs. Odin

I also don't remember well Galatcus using that kind of speed as Silver Surfer. Or even LT (not counting showing out of nowhere, but actual speed).
Doesn't mean he isn't, because he is.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
With proper writing Tyrant wouldn't have stood a chance against Galactus, nor would Thanos against Odin. See how that works.

No, it doesn't work with Tyrant. With Tyrant we knew what are his powers, who he is and is in some way similar to Galactus, but little less powerful and it was proper writing, because he lost.

And is one of rare being that Galactus really had go go hard with brute force to beat him. So it's different and Galactus didn't underestimate him, but knew what he is facing.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
I'm not doubting whether Tyrant is more powerful than Thanos. I know he is, which is why he beat them faster than Thanos could, so your first statement makes no sense. Again, Thanos has faced beings more powerful than them and was still left standing. You have nothing to go on except your own opinion, and that's not good enough.

When has Thanos fought such powerful beings simultaneously, without prep and under his own raw power?

Originally posted by Xplosive
I also don't remember well Galatcus using that kind of speed as Silver Surfer

Originally posted by Juntai
In volume 3, Surfer tried to fight Galactus, and was all flying around an eyebeam and blasting and caught a backhand and was downed.

Cool. But is also logical Galactus should be able to do this, because he is so beyond SS in completely any department.

Originally posted by Xplosive
I also don't remember well Galatcus using that kind of speed as Silver Surfer. Or even LT (not counting showing out of nowhere, but actual speed).
Doesn't mean he isn't, because he is.

To beings at abstract level, speed is insignificant. Tyrant isn't at that level.

Originally posted by Xplosive
No, it doesn't work with Tyrant. With Tyrant we knew what are his powers, who he is and is in some way similar to Galactus, but little less powerful and it was proper writing, because he lost.

And is one of rare being that Galactus really had go go hard with brute force to beat him. So it's different and Galactus didn't underestimate him, but knew what he is facing.

So it was proper writing because Galactus lost? Yeah, that makes sense. Just completely ignore the fact that Galactus has defeated far more powerful beings than Tyrant.

Originally posted by Xplosive
When has Thanos fought such powerful beings simultaneously, without prep and under his own raw power?

Before his first death, meaning his weakest form, he beat up on Drax, Starfox, Captain Marvel, and Iron Man at the same time. He also took down Thing and Thor at the same time. During the Infinity War, he was taking on lots of heroes at the same time, including Thing, Hulk, Hercules, and Thor and was still standing at the end. He also fought Thor w/PG to a stalemate (which is a Thor that just got done wrecking the Infinity Watch, SS, and Strange at the same time).

Originally posted by celestialdemon
So you're telling me a being capable of doing this...

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6125/galactusshockwave1oz9.jpg

...ran out of options and resorted to using tech after 1 eye blast and 1 grab?

Tyrant absorbed energy from a well fed Galactus. More energy than he had in your little Annihilation scan.

Galactus didn't bother trying anything else because it would fail anyway. He knows his creation better than anyone else. At least he thought he did. ❌

Originally posted by llagrok

How do you think Tyrant became depowered in the first place? He dropped his energy orbs? 😆

Don't know. The only images of the first fight were on the computer of Tyrants ship when Thanos was looking at it. For all we know he could have used tech the first time.

[QUOTE]- Galactus cannot be physically hurt

Damn! Tyrant was slicing him up like Wolverine and making him bleed. Stop ignoring the facts.

- Galactus can depower anyone he has previously powered up

Except Tyrant obviously.

- Galactus can ship Tyrant back in time

Guess he wasn't thinking then huh?

Originally posted by Sundipped
Tyrant absorbed energy from a well fed Galactus. More energy than he had in your little Annihilation scan.

Galactus didn't bother trying anything else because it would fail anyway. He knows his creation better than anyone else. At least he thought he did. ❌

Love how you contradict yourself in the last 2 lines. The energy released in the Annihilation scan made his attack on Tyrant look like nothing. The fact that you believe otherwise means there's no point in continuing to debate with you. 😆

Originally posted by Sundipped
Don't know. The only images of the first fight were on the computer of Tyrants ship when Thanos was looking at it. For all we know he could have used tech the first time.

False! I'll find the scan, but there is an image of him holding Tyrant in his hand while he's depowering him.

Originally posted by Xplosive
To prove what? That G is faster than SS? What the... SS power, speed, everything comes from a fraction of power from Galactus. Be serious.

Even with prep and gets crushed by Galactus three simple blasts. He is not smarter than Tyrant. Galactus also never sets a goal as Thanos, but is still smarter than Thanos. Tyrant is around the Universe almost as long as Galactus. He probably has the knowledge Galactus has and was also learning from him, seeing what Galactus was doing and all.
Tyrant outmatches Thanos in every department.

He even created robots that were more powerful than Gladiator and most of others.

Thanos with prep gets the ig. Thanos with prep and when he wants Galactus trapped had him trapped and held prisoner. Thanos created a Galactus clone. He knows Galactus is needed for the overall well being of the universe and doesnt want him dead which is a good thing for Galactus.

When he blasted Galactus it was only to get his attention and to help him before he made the crucial mistake of releasing Hunger. Galactus was an idiot and didnt listen and then Thanos had to save him and all of reality from Hunger. Pretty simple stuff really.

Thanos intelligence is higher than Galactus or Tyrant. He easily taunted Tyrant challenged him and stole from him and Tyrant never saw him again. Thanos knew who he was but Tyrant was clueless as to who Thanos was. With all he did and Tyrant is clueless about him.

Oh wow he created robots more powerful than Gladiator. Omega was more powerful than Galactus. Nuff said.

Thanos destroys Tyrant and Galactus together with prep.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Tyrant still needed to use Galactus' own tech against him because he wasn't doing any damage until then.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
In the Odin fight, Thanos looked worn out and struggled to get up. In the Tyrant fight, he looked perfectly fine except for his clothes and was even smiling at the end. You come from a strange world if you think having torn clothes means taking more damage.

No, Tyrant didn't because Thanos got up with no problem. Plus, Thanos was actually able to hurt Tyrant. No such luck against Odin.

Thanos got up both times but visually looked worse in the Tyrant fight. He also fought Tyrant for only a few pages with a weapon. Context.

Thanos didnt have a weapon against Odin now did he? Context.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
He thought that was what he was in for but he obviously found out Tyrant the threat he thought, which is why decided to drain his power and called the confrontation ridiculous.

It doesn't matter who used it first. The point is Tyrant wasn't winning before that happened. If Tyrant were to take on someone of Galactus' level who doesn't use tech, like the In-Betweener, Tyrant would lose horribly.

Tyrant was more powerful due to Galactus blast so he was winning as he got more powerful in their fight and Galactus became weaker.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When have you ever seen Galactus use superspeed to get somewhere. Scans otherwise you are speculating.

So, Galactus granted SS such speed with his own power, but he himself doesn't have it. Good, quanchi. Well done.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos destroys Tyrant and Galactus together with prep.

So Thanos is also smarter than Galactus?

Originally posted by celestialdemon
So it was proper writing because Galactus lost? Yeah, that makes sense. Just completely ignore the fact that Galactus has defeated far more powerful beings than Tyrant.

I said it was proper, because Tyrant lost in his 1st battle which was the battle of power.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Just completely ignore the fact that Galactus has defeated far more powerful beings than Tyrant.

Such as...?
Who is far more powerful than Tyrant that Galactus has defeated?

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Before his first death, meaning his weakest form, he beat up on Drax, Starfox, Captain Marvel, and Iron Man at the same time. He also took down Thing and Thor at the same time. During the Infinity War, he was taking on lots of heroes at the same time, including Thing, Hulk, Hercules, and Thor and was still standing at the end. He also fought Thor w/PG to a stalemate (which is a Thor that just got done wrecking the Infinity Watch, SS, and Strange at the same time).

None of the team is powerful as those six.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos had to get up against both foes.

Thanos got up both times but visually looked worse in the Tyrant fight.

False. The only thing against Tyrant was his clothes were gone. He looked fine and was smiling. Against Odin, he was still smoking and had to struggle to get up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He also fought Tyrant for only a few pages with a weapon. Context.

Thanos didnt have a weapon against Odin now did he? Context.

And how much did the weapon help him against Tyrant? What did it do to Thanos' power levels?

Originally posted by quanchi112
So what? He called it ridiculous but was also well fed for it and was getting his ass kicked.

Oh please! At the time he said that Tyrant wasn't doing jack sh*t to Galactus except give him a paper cut on his finger. Ouch!

Originally posted by quanchi112
Tyrant toppled him and made him bleed.

Tyrant didn't topple him. It was Galactus' own machine draining him that toppled him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Tyrant was more powerful due to Galactus blast so he was winning as he got more powerful in their fight and Galactus became weaker.

So powerful that he was able to rip part of Galactus' glove from one of his fingers. Nice powerup!

Originally posted by Xplosive
I said it was proper, because Tyrant lost in his 1st battle which was the battle of power.

True.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Such as...?
Who is [B]far more powerful than Tyrant that Galactus has defeated?[/B]

He was stalemating the In-Betweener before Order and Chaos appeared, and was stalemating Agamotto in his own realm where he is all-powerful. He defeated Mephisto in his own realm where he is all-powerful. He also incinerated a Watcher, who are on Celestial-level.

Originally posted by Xplosive
None of the team is powerful as those six.

That team would get wrecked by Thor w/PG just like the Watch and co. did.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
False! I'll find the scan, but there is an image of him holding Tyrant in his hand while he's depowering him.

All he was doing is holding him. How do u know if that was the depowerment stage? Tyrant was still the same size as Galactus in that scan. Nice try. 😛

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Love how you contradict yourself in the last 2 lines. The energy released in the Annihilation scan made his attack on Tyrant look like nothing. The fact that you believe otherwise means there's no point in continuing to debate with you. 😆

U too ignore the facts.

Tyrant has mastery over his organic form and can absob what he called "synthesized" biospheric/cosmic energy (the same thing Galactus uses). Tyrant could've absorbed if not all, at least a large portion of that kind of attack and would've been empowered. It sure wouldn't have hurt him. Galan didn't do it in Cosmic Powers because he knew where it would've led.

Since he could'nt go that route he tried tech and got all his power drained anyway. More than what was displayed by a weak Galan in Annihilation. Dosen't matter if it goes thur through tech or solar system wipe out blasts, Galactus is harming Tyrant in this manner.

Originally posted by Sundipped
All he was doing is holding him. How do u know if that was the depowerment stage? Tyrant was still the same size as Galactus in that scan. Nice try. 😛

I'm sorry, what was that? 😗