Originally posted by TenebrousMarvel hired Starlin and its canon.
hah, well you know how starlin likes to pimp Thanos...and he's def got that right, since all that stuff happened in starlin's own book.things happen on-panel that we may disagree with, but it happens to everybody...
....the Thani-copter comes to mind hahaha
The Thanos chopper isnt and the writers had no clue in that comic it was obvious.
Originally posted by llagrokLook at the context? It was completely out of character and I think it was written by a third party as well. Bran seems to know. Anyone who considers this is canon is completely wrong and has nothing to back up their claim.
So any Marvel comic that's never referenced to again, we're going to ignore and deem uncanon?lmao.
Has anyone ever made another reference to Hunger?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Someone could lightly tap my face and I could say ouch when it really did nothing to me whatsoever.
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You'd only say ouch if you were faking it hurting. Tyrant wasn't unless you have proof that he was. Quit reaching.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Same principle. You have already agreed it didnt do much so quit grasping for something here. Ganymede never met Odin so quit using uncommon factors to make your point.
Again, Odin isn't the issue here. The statement you made about the orb against Tyrant is. We could be comparing Tyrant to Odin or Tyrant to Jubilee. It doesn't matter, because the other person isn't the concern. What is the concern is you stating the orb had to be very powerful to hurt Tyrant. However, you are WRONG since a being far beneath Thanos and probably even SS was able to hurt him. You mentioning Ganymede never meeting Odin is just your attempt to make excuses and backtrack on your own statement.
Originally posted by quanchi112
We dont know exactly what Thanos gained from the orb. Maybe knowledge,maybe power,maybe both. Its all speculation.
You're right, it is, and since it's never been mentioned again, we'll probably never know.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes we went over why Tyrant is superior to Odin. His power source is the same as Galactus' which isnt a plot device its their power source. Is the odinforce a plot device then and all power sources? Is Henshaw using a plot device everytime he takes over tech or is it a part of his powerset?
No, it's a plot device because in any of their confrontations beforehand, Tyrant didn't have the ability to either control Galactus' tech or absorb his energy. And up until this point, Galactus' energy has ALWAYS been referred to as the Power Cosmic, not biospheric energy. All of a sudden, for this confrontation only, both are utilized.
Odin's isn't a plot device because he's always had it. It didn't just mysteriously appear for one battle only. I don't know enough about Henshaw to comment.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No. Neither Ganymede nor the orb hurt Odin and even came into contact with Odin. If he easily strugged off either youd have a point but again its an uncommon factor you are tying to use to illustrate your point.
I'm well aware that they never came in contact. I'm not the one who made the comment about the orb having to be powerful to hurt Tyrant, so you constantly bringing up Odin doesn't help you one bit.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Tyrant was only using his power source which happened to be the same as Galactus' which no duh he created him. Tyrant also has control over tech and is a part of his powerset not some plot device.
But Tyrant has never absorbed bse until this point. If he could, he would have drained Galactus a long time ago. Why, in this battle only, is Galactus' power all of a sudden called bse and why can Tyrant mysteriously absorb it?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Galactus has much more power than Thanos. Of course he could beat him straight up. But if Thanos wants to he can amp himself through other means way past Galactus' levels.So you admit Galactus can be a downright fool and even be as stupid as to forget his very abilities and you dare compare him to Thanos.
Like gaining the Infinity Gauntlet for instance? The gems was located right in front of Thanos, so what a Wonder Galactus didn't listen to Thanos, and what other ways can he Amp himself above Galactus levels without including the artifacts like the CCU?
Hello PIS... did you miss that it's what I'm arguing for the Tyrant encounter is based on?
Originally posted by UtrigitaAgain he has had the ig and was the first to do it. The cosmic cube and the heart. He was the first to obtain all three. Thanos is always the first to find and acquire something like these powerups and then outdates them himself when he finds something else more powerful.
Like gaining the Infinity Gauntlet for instance? The gems was located right in front of Thanos, so what a Wonder Galactus didn't listen to Thanos, and what other ways can he Amp himself above Galactus levels without including the artifacts like the CCU?Hello PIS... did you miss that it's what I'm arguing for the Tyrant encounter is based on?
Its canon and proves Galactus can be an outright fool.
Originally posted by celestialdemonHe wasnt faking but it did nothing significant and this character didnt face off against Odin so its a moot point.
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You'd only say ouch if you were faking it hurting. Tyrant wasn't unless you have proof that he was. Quit reaching.Again, Odin isn't the issue here. The statement you made about the orb against Tyrant is. We could be comparing Tyrant to Odin or Tyrant to Jubilee. It doesn't matter, because the other person isn't the concern. What is the concern is you stating the orb had to be very powerful to hurt Tyrant. However, you are WRONG since a being far beneath Thanos and probably even SS was able to hurt him. You mentioning Ganymede never meeting Odin is just your attempt to make excuses and backtrack on your own statement.
You're right, it is, and since it's never been mentioned again, we'll probably never know.
No, it's a plot device because in any of their confrontations beforehand, Tyrant didn't have the ability to either control Galactus' tech or absorb his energy. And up until this point, Galactus' energy has ALWAYS been referred to as the Power Cosmic, not biospheric energy. All of a sudden, for this confrontation only, both are utilized.
Odin's isn't a plot device because he's always had it. It didn't just mysteriously appear for one battle only. I don't know enough about Henshaw to comment.
I'm well aware that they never came in contact. I'm not the one who made the comment about the orb having to be powerful to hurt Tyrant, so you constantly bringing up Odin doesn't help you one bit.
But Tyrant has never absorbed bse until this point. If he could, he would have drained Galactus a long time ago. Why, in this battle only, is Galactus' power all of a sudden called bse and why can Tyrant mysteriously absorb it?
The orb was used to mount an offensive against Tyrant. Thanos used it and it didnt do any significant damage either but Thanos again wouldnt want something that is worthless or that wasnt powerful.
I am not backtracking. You keep wanting to go over and over two factors that werent present against Odin. Tyrant was fine at the end of this conflict as well and faced off against a well prepared Thanos as opposed to an unprepared Thanos.
Heck a Thanos clone rendered Odin practically impotent when he came to asgard. A Thanos clone can take Odin out the equation with prep.
Galactus always has drained planets and used this energy to sustain himself. So why now since it was called bse do you call it a plot device. Tyrant's powers were described in this story and where he draws them from.
Where characters get their powers from and how they use them are not plot devices, the are their power sets.
I already explained it to you about the bse. Just because your unhappy with it that doesnt mean it changes anything. What did this story do to change Galactus' whole history? What?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Again he has had the ig and was the first to do it. The cosmic cube and the heart. He was the first to obtain all three. Thanos is always the first to find and acquire something like these powerups and then outdates them himself when he finds something else more powerful.Its canon and proves Galactus can be an outright fool.
Disregarding all those artifacts I would like you to elaborate on the comment that
But if Thanos wants to he can amp himself through other means way past Galactus' levels
Again are the firelord vs Spiderman no canon? And Tenebrous have already given a good example of how Thanos has been fooled too.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He wasnt faking but it did nothing significant and this character didnt face off against Odin so its a moot point.
But he was hurt, which is the point and disproves your "orb must be very powerful" theory.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The orb was used to mount an offensive against Tyrant. Thanos used it and it didnt do any significant damage either but Thanos again wouldnt want something that is worthless or that wasnt powerful.
Thanos had no idea how powerful it was. He thought it was powerful because he thought it was the only orb Tyrant possessed. He was wrong. The results of Thanos' tests on the orb are never revealed, and the orb is never mentioned again, so stating how powerful the orb was is speculation at best.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I am not backtracking. You keep wanting to go over and over two factors that werent present against Odin. Tyrant was fine at the end of this conflict as well and faced off against a well prepared Thanos as opposed to an unprepared Thanos.
And I myself stated Tyrant was fine when he faced Thanos also. All I'm doing is refuting your point of view about how powerful you thought the orb really was.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Heck a Thanos clone rendered Odin practically impotent when he came to asgard. A Thanos clone can take Odin out the equation with prep.
That's a lie. Prove that, please.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Galactus always has drained planets and used this energy to sustain himself. So why now since it was called bse do you call it a plot device. Tyrant's powers were described in this story and where he draws them from.
It's a plot device because Galactus' power has always been referred to as the Power Cosmic and him draining planets had absolutely no effect on Tyrant whatsoever. Now for this story and this story only, Galactus actually uses biospheric energy which just so happens to be the energy Tyrant needs to survive, and Tyrant has the ability to absorb said energy.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Where characters get their powers from and how they use them are not plot devices, the are their power sets.
It is if they mysteriously acquire said powers for one storyline only and said powers are used to advance the story.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I already explained it to you about the bse. Just because your unhappy with it that doesnt mean it changes anything. What did this story do to change Galactus' whole history? What?
It changed the type of energy he possessed from Power Cosmic to biospheric for the sole purpose of giving a reason why Tyrant could absorb his blasts, which was also an ability that was given to Tyrant just for this story alone.
Originally posted by UtrigitaSo you want me to leave out the times Thanos has become much more powerful than Galactus?
Disregarding all those artifacts I would like you to elaborate on the comment thatAgain are the firelord vs Spiderman no canon? And Tenebrous have already given a good example of how Thanos has been fooled too.
Thanos wasnt fooled he was just being practical.
Originally posted by celestialdemonNo it doesnt. Ganymede could perhaps make Odin say ouch or the orb could have somewhat of an effect as well.
But he was hurt, which is the point and disproves your "orb must be very powerful" theory.Thanos had no idea how powerful it was. He thought it was powerful because he thought it was the only orb Tyrant possessed. He was wrong. The results of Thanos' tests on the orb are never revealed, and the orb is never mentioned again, so stating how powerful the orb was is speculation at best.
And I myself stated Tyrant was fine when he faced Thanos also. All I'm doing is refuting your point of view about how powerful you thought the orb really was.
That's a lie. Prove that, please.
It's a plot device because Galactus' power has always been referred to as the Power Cosmic and him draining planets had absolutely no effect on Tyrant whatsoever. Now for this story and this story only, Galactus actually uses biospheric energy which just so happens to be the energy Tyrant needs to survive, and Tyrant has the ability to absorb said energy.
It is if they mysteriously acquire said powers for one storyline only and said powers are used to advance the story.
It changed the type of energy he possessed from Power Cosmic to biospheric for the sole purpose of giving a reason why Tyrant could absorb his blasts, which was also an ability that was given to Tyrant just for this story alone.
The orb was of significance. Why would Tyrant try to stop him if it wasnt?
The orb again wasnt used against Odin so it could very well have the same effect.
Galactus always absorbed planets and this was the first time it was called bse energy. Nothing was changed for this story. Why wouldnt Tyrant asbsobr the very thing that is his power source? He needs to destroy Galactus because the more planets he feeds on the weaker Tyrant becomes. It all adds up.
What would you like to me to do to prove about the Thanos clone and his making Odin powerless to stop him?
Originally posted by quanchi112
No it doesnt. Ganymede could perhaps make Odin say ouch or the orb could have somewhat of an effect as well.
Yes, it does. She may be able to hurt Odin and may not. Since we don't know, stop throwing that in there. What we do know is she hurt Tyrant, and she's nowhere near as powerful as Thanos.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The orb was of significance. Why would Tyrant try to stop him if it wasnt?
Because the fact that Thanos would have the gall to steal from him pissed him off. He states as much by stating "No one dares pilfer from me!"
Originally posted by quanchi112
The orb again wasnt used against Odin so it could very well have the same effect.
But you don't know, so you can't claim anything. All you know is that it was able to hurt Tyrant, but so was the weaker Ganymede, so the orb doesn't have to be as powerful as you claim.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Galactus always absorbed planets and this was the first time it was called bse energy. Nothing was changed for this story. Why wouldnt Tyrant asbsobr the very thing that is his power source? He needs to destroy Galactus because the more planets he feeds on the weaker Tyrant becomes. It all adds up.
Again, this is the first time it has been mentioned that Tyrant needed that energy to survive. Galactus didn't create him to need that energy. It would have been counter-productive to his need to have a companion. It wasn't established as Tyrant's power source until this very story, which also happened to be the first and only story where Galactus' power is changed from Power Cosmic to bse, which coincidentally, Tyrant can now absorb. Lazy writing.
Originally posted by quanchi112
What would you like to me to do to prove about the Thanos clone and his making Odin powerless to stop him?
Show me scans of the Thanos clone doing just that to Odin.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you want me to leave out the times Thanos has become much more powerful than Galactus?Thanos wasnt fooled he was just being practical.
Yes, because that wasn't what your statement was about was it?
You clearly said
If Thanos WANTS
Please show me, it should be easy to accomplishe this task for Thanos seeing as how his intelligence according to you is higher, though If Thanos as easily as you claim could amp himself above Galactus there had been no reason for Thanos to Create Omega was there?
Wasn't fooled? He tried to right the wrong that Galactus was to be turned into a Bomb, a development that thanos had not seen come.